9/11 truthers are always right...about everything...
Submitted by rustybuick on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 23:37
...if you disagree you're a troll or worse. I now know that it's true because they watched videos on the internet. I was so wrong in questioning them, I see the error of my ways. How could I have been so wrong. I guess this makes Ron Paul a troll because he has not come out lock step in agreement. How could I have been so wrong to blindly follow a man that clearly disagrees with 9/11 truthers.
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On this forum, I think, and it's a good one for this situation:
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Sorry about the link. Didn't think you would have to have an account there. We have a very large and growing network over there if you ever do get an account . I love the DP but myspace has a better platform for sharing multiple types of media. Vids,pics,text,etc.} I might need to brush up a little more on DP's formatting options..also.
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Hey 9/11 truthers are almost always right about 9/11 so Mr....
CrustyPuke why don't you go crawl back under the rock from whence you came... Don't give a flyin fuck what you, Ron Paul or god himself thinks about 9/11... I'm 100% satisfied in my mind after reading many books,purchasing and studying a multitude of DVDs. Meeting with eyewitness and discussing what they saw/experienced.You can quit now because you lose and you can't tag us with any harm to Ron Paul's campaign in the past or any in the future.
If this was so detrimental to the revolution or this website don't you think Michael Nystrom would kill the 9/11 threads and ban users that brought the subject up?
Get a clue, we will never stop ever ever until the truth is brought into the open or America is consigned to the dustbin of history (and even then we won't quit).
47 internal vertical columns from bedrock to the top of the building yeah pancake theory that's it,you naysaying asses,
Steel columns so huge they just magically fell straight down and kinda melted right through each other like melted butter thats it thats what happened....
You cannot deny the numbers of law enforcement,firemen,media plus video proof of explosive charges going off both visually and audibly on film/tape/DVD from news sources and private citizens...
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Can't we all just get along?
And agree that Oruval is is a jerk.
Truth hurts sometime
Hey at least I'm a truthful jerk, you crybaby.
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No, you're just a jerk...
No, you're just a jerk... confirmed!
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Truther?
No, sir!
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yeah well at least I'm not a hypocrite
or childish for that matter.. and for your info Rustybuick may be coming around to overcoming his denial about 9/11.
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Dude---
That was so not nice.
Don't listen to them oruval...
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2 things for certain, without a doubt, uncontrovertible evidence, gospel.
1) The government knew it was going to happen.
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911 truthers should stick to the facts, these are enough for a new investigation. I have a scientific background and can poke holes in all the theories expressed, but the two items listed above are fact.
And if just these 2 things are true, then its anybodys guess as to what else may be true.
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How about we have both the truthers and anti truthers jump off a building at the same time and just see if they fall at free fall speed, spontaneously combust and then collapse in on themselves?
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I like it, I like it....
Not sure what an anti-truther is though.
Look in the Mirror.
you are one.
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Oh Uvula, your such a jerk.
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Oh don't be so butt hurt.
Oruval is a medication for people with arthritis. Uvula is that thingy in the back of your mouth..
Just wanted you to know how childish you sound hahahaa..
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We're getting closer to an Oruval cure!
We've narrowed down your symptoms... psychosis, verbal rants, picking at scabs, deformed world view. I suspect you're one of the original Thalidomide babies.
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Truther?
No, sir!
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Yep pretty sad.
You're not going to get a rise out of me any longer you know.. You're becoming irrelevant.
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I didn't know what oruval was..
See, you learn something new everyday.
Why is everyone forgetting newtons laws
According to Newton's law of gravitation, the force between any two bodies varies inversely with the square of the distance between them; therefore with increasing distance between any body and the Earth, the acceleration of the body toward the Earth decreases rapidly.
Even with the pancake theory and all that building the fall had to go through those towers fell within their "calculated" free fall. Rosie says they should have fell in 9. Sorry Rosie you need to go back to college physic's class and pass this time.
The Free fall argument has been put to bed. If you still believe this conspiracy about no demolitions then you are truly lost and need to sleep.
Explain pieces in the weight of tons becoming stuck in near by buildings. No propulsion was used correct. Then how?
Explain the molten pools of metal under "ground zero" for months. Was this caused by the friction of the towers falling? Those warm steel beams must has caught fire on the way down right?
Explain how when those towers fell the explosion clearly seen at the top of the tower before and the initiator of the collapse. That fire ran up those steps pretty quickly right?
Why try to help others when they cannot even look past the end of their nose's.
NICE!
Letss put your assertion to the test:
Fg = G (m1 * m2)/ d^2
Force of gravity = Gravitation constant times mass object 1 times mass object 2 divided by the square of the distance between object centers.
Force of gravity at ground level:
F = 6.67E-11 * M1 * M2 / 6,378,000^2 (rad Earth in M)
F = [1.640409 E-24] M1*M2 Newtons
Now from a position 417M above the earth:
F = 6.67E-11 * M1 * M2 / 6,378,417^2 (rad Earth in M +)
F = [1.640194 E-24] M1*M2 Newtons
For an decrease in the force of gravity of
2.14 E-26%
Or like 2 billionths of a billionth of a billionth of a percent
I want to question one of your assumptions
Purely a mathematical question...Oruval, stop reading here please.
You're assuming a fall height of 417 meters, which is the height of the roof of the buildings.
Would that be the correct place to measure from? The towers both had a collapse that began below the roof, close to the point of impact.
An analogy for you...a tennis ball is dropped from a height of 10 meters. To correctly guess the time it would take it to hit the ground, you would have to measure from the bottom of the tennis ball, not the top, since the bottom would be first to hit the ground. (I know, the top would not hit the ground, but stay with me).
It may help to describe the collapse as a 25 story building falling through a 85 story building. While the bottom of the partial building on top may have been dramatically slowed by the resistance provided by the still remaining structure of the rest of the building below, the top may have felt very little of that effect because the resistance could have been distributed through other means.
I'm certain that even a building compromised by explosive charges provides more resistance to falling than 2.14 X 10-26 %. It's not logical to me anyway that the buiding would fall with close to 0 resistance, so when you have a contradiction, you should question your assumptions.
So what do you think, should we be measuring from the point of collapse, or the top of the roof?
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Ah yes the vacuum calculations
Drop a ball in a vacuum from the height of the towers
t = √[2 * (1365 ft) / ( 32 ft/s2)] = √( 42.66s2) = 6.53 seconds
Too bad we couldn't put the towers in a vacuum. Sadly there were many obstacles to overcome to make it all the way to the bottom. Slowing the free fall. luckily most of the resistance was removed by explosives. If not the tower would have taken days to fall. At the least there would still be a piece of the tower still standing today. A large piece.
Right...
If not the tower would have taken days to fall.
Wow, how can I even argue if this concept is even remotely feasible to you?
Sadly there were many obstacles to overcome to make it all the way to the bottom.
I'd love to see you explain this with FACT and using the structural drawings of the building.
Have you noticed no one replies when we show physics?
How fast the buildings fell? You and I both have shown that a 10-15 second drop time may not be exactly free fall, but it's damn close. For a building with so much structural resistance to falling, half the speed of free fall is really really fast.
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Ok.
And because it happenned really fast thats proof that they were demolished? This is a completely unqualified and unsupported assertion
I'd really like to see where this "so much structural resistance to falling" was in the structure. The open web joists certainly weren't it.
Maybe they went back and changed all the design drawings, asbuilts and photos of construction to hide massive steel girders that were put in under the floors to provide structural resistance to collapse.
They probably went and threated the life of the architect and all the erectors and told them they had to say that the building only had the floor joists in the horizontal so that it would make the building appear to be vulneralble to progressive collapse.
Alas it all comes back to denying how the building was designed. There were no significant structural members in the horizontal that would have had the strength to slow, let alone stop 20-40 stories worth of structure falling on it.
It's because they are disinfo shills.
You throw the real Physics and numbers at them to show they are covering a lie and all they do is fruitloop.
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Wow
--"According to Newton's law of gravitation, the force between any two bodies varies inversely with the square of the distance between them; therefore with increasing distance between any body and the Earth, the acceleration of the body toward the Earth decreases rapidly."
You aren't seriously saying that the pull of gravity changes noticeably over a distance of 417m, are you? Because believe me, if you bring a scale along and weigh yourself at ground level or at the top floor of a building, you get the same (minus any weight you sweated off traveling to the top of the building).
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Go ahead and believe in Rosie O'Donnell. I'll let you. Look down. Oh wait we already gave you the calculations. What did you do? You scoffed at them and said something along the lines of "Physics? What are you trying to show me here cause I don't understand". You are dead to me. Good night. Fucking trolls. You try to be nice and every single one of them carries the same mental blocks. A block for reason and logic.
Ahhh. Nice. Just unleash
Ahhh. Nice. Just unleash your anti-"truth" tirade.
Truther? No, sir.
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