If we were nuked.

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I put together a lil info just in case. You never know what is going to happen, so it couldn't hurt to be prepared. Add whatever you think can help inform.

Blast radius map for about ten major cities in USA
http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/gmap/hydesim.html

Current stockpiles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_wea...

Blast effects and survival
http://www.geocities.com/survival_planning/survive_nuclear.html

More survival stuff
http://www.wikihow.com/Survive-Nuclear-Fallout

1megaton to 25 megaton damage
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/blastmap.html

It may never happen... but it's nice to know.

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After the blast comes the real danger

Refugees and survivors from the immediate blast areas will no doubt flood the countryside and anything that is yours will become coveted by them.
The ensuing breakdown of any semblance of societal rules will be as devastating as any blast. Prepare to defend yourself from your fellow citizens, you'll have to to survive.

If not us than who?

This is the standard

This is the standard survivalist thought process--I have my doubts, although I think after nuclear war, bands of starving thieves would be more likely to converge on the countryside than in many other scenarios, because bands of such looters could pop up in either the country or the city. And police and military protection would probably be thinner than in any normal breakdown.

People would be crazier...cops much more likely to stop being cops and stay home. Soldiers much more likely to be assigned to non-security tasks that keep their hands full, or redeployed. As for Blackwater mercs and "private security"--people would not allow them to do anything in the aftermath of an event that extreme. Most of them wouldn't last very long before being strung up.

On the other hand, the sick and dying aren't going to loot people, and starving refugees will have a hard time navigating blocked highways to converge on the countryside. The absence of anything marginally resembling a logical civil defense would ensure that roads out of a nuked urban area would be choked with cars and impassable. Some highways would be filled with corpses and stalled cars.

And of course, vigilante committees--impromptu militias--would pop up in rural areas very quickly.

If contemplating nuclear war, I'd worry a lot less about guns and ammo, and a lot more about shelter, potable water and food.

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It may never happen, but who

It may never happen, but who knows? Being prepared is a good thing, regardless.

If I Was In New York, I'd: Boogie Out

Truthfully!

Just a high suspicion of mine, it pretty well has been proven that New York is a prime target. What's the population now, 14 'million'?

Nostradamus may have even

Nostradamus may have even predicted New York City would be destroyed by nuclear fire--although 911 worshipers co-opted that quatrain for their own purposes and concocted phony new ones to enhance it.

The real quatrains:

At forty-five degrees latitude, the sky will burn,
Fire approaches the great new city,
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up,
When they want to have verification from the Normans.
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C6Q97

and:

Garden of the world near the new city,
In the path of the hollow mountains:
It will be seized and plunged into a boiling cauldron,
Drinking by force the waters poisoned by sulfur.
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C10 Q49

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great info, thanks

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the dim reality is:

if we had a nuclear incident, the MSM would present it as some demise of a radial boogey man. when, in fact, it would most likely be at the behest of the new world order functioning within our corrupt government.

hey rudy...??.....got an appetite for another false flag?

our goal

is to have an NBC proof bunker that will be sutainable for 6mos to a year. Sounds crazy I know....but if you're going to the trouble of water supply, sewage disposal, food storage, etc....may as welll go for the long haul.

personally, i want to conquer the tyranny and bring about real change.

REVOLT!

I hate to complain about everything, but..

That blast radius map from meyerweb is not believable.

Weapons in the kiloton range are very unlikely to be used on large cities. Kiloton range warheads will most likely be allocated to small military support bases and precision cruise missile targets.

A city the size of New York would most likely be hit by a 5-10 megaton warhead--possibly larger, or more than one, in a nuclear exchange with a major power like China or Russia.

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I've seen other blast maps

I've seen other blast maps that show the megaton radius patterns.. but I can't seem to find it. You can increase the one on the map to about 500kt. I also beleive there are warheads inside of warheads so the radius may even be bigger, I will see what I can find.

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

If there was a nuclear blast I wouldn't want to live through it

I watched the movie "Threads" which is about what would happen if there was a nuclear holocaust. Scared the crap out of me. It's on google video.
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Just viewed "Threads:" profoundly disturbing

you-are-there film shows how quickly a modern civilization could be bombed back into the Dark Ages. http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=threads&emb=1#

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that is exactly what they

that is exactly what they want to do.. SCARE THE CRAP OUT OF YOU! it will not be as bad as you think.. sure for those at ground zero or close by but a nuclear war can be won. get the book nuclear war survival skills. read it. ,make sure you have ki4u www.ki4u.com then this stuff won't scare you as bad.. it would not be pleasant but you need to play the cards you are delt.. you don't want to give up and just die.. when and if this would happen you want to get tough!

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“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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you mean... this post

you mean... this post doesn't scare you to death? I mean... you aren't filled with fear and runnin to the doc for a script?

GOOD!

It is important to be informed and play the cards you are dealt.

ps
I like your post dealing with the economy. Good points.

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Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Doesn't scare me at all.

Doesn't scare me at all.

Compared to some of the terrifying possibilities in a fascist police state world, nuclear war is a dawdle.

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ditto to what shannon said

I would run towards it....



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that is the most defeatest

that is the most defeatest stupid attitude you can have! survive to start your country new again!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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This Post

This post I am sorry to say is exactly like something that the current adminsitration would spread around so that everyone would be fearing nukes.

Get a life you fear mongering Wacko!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

holbrook , nuclear weapons

holbrook ,
nuclear weapons are a reality.. do you realize that russians and Chinese spend billions on civil defense against nuclear weapons and out country spends a big fat "0".. you must take care of yourself! even tho I do not think it will happen as a full scale war scenario, I do not rule out a terrorist suitecase nuke! just think about it!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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Good point on the civil

Good point on the civil defense. I wish Alex Jones would discuss this on the radio more often. Americans should be deeply offended that there are underground bunkers for the elites--paid for with tax dollars--but in the event of nuclear war, the US government wants you, the peasants, to put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

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Just posted it for

Just posted it for information purposes. I'm not tryin to scare anyone. Can't hurt to know what to do. Calling names is a bit childish and serves no purpose.

Perhaps this will make you feel better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZivl5iKCo

Peace.

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Calling Names?

I am not calling you names! Read this carefully.....I am telling you what you are! A fear mongering Wacko!
Why the hell would you put this up other than to scare people!

You are a damned fear mongerer!

Go away if you cannot deal with the truth!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Oh gee... sorry... I don't

Oh gee... sorry... I don't want you to wake up having nightmares because of an internet post.

The topic does not scare me in the least bit. As far as I am concerned it is important to cover all angles. We talk about survival stuff all the time on this site. Maybe some people here didn't know that waiting underground for a few days is what needs to be done. I don't think we will be nuked. But there is a possibility.

Now to get back to your point. Fear-mongerING indicates that I have repeatedly attempted to instill fear. Please find some of my other posts where I am trying to instill FEAR... or maybe you need to visit www.RingsideRevolution.com and see what creative campaigning means.

Oh... wait... it's men fighting... you may get scared...

Gee... I'm such a fear-mongerer... boohoo... tell your mom to put the barney video in, change your poopie diapers and shove that pacifier where the sun don't shine. I'm done with you.

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Now I Understand

Now I understand why so many good people have left this forum.
Keep posting your BS.

When I leave this sorry world, I know where I am going.

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

It's Baa-aa-aaa-d.

If you don't like the thread, don't read it.

Go watch Spongebob Squarepants or something.

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One thing is for certain...

If a nuclear strike did happen in the United States, we would NOT want to collect all relevant, self-consistent and empirical evidence that might identify the perpetrators. That would simply be "conspiracy theory" according to 9/11 Truth deniers and everyone knows that "conspiracy theories" are crazy (or irrelevant, depending on the mood).

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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi

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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

Oh... we wouldn't do that!

Oh... we wouldn't do that! Does CNN or Fox have a short wave radio station? That would be helpful in finding the perpetrators!

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

I'm right on the edge

of the LA blast radius. I think I might just make it

/sarcasm