9/11 HOW DID IT FIT THRU THAT HOLE AND WHERE DID THE PASSENGERS GO?
Submitted by Infospill.com on Fri, 11/21/2008 - 02:08
has anybody seen pics of the pentagon when it got hit by the plane? i have and it looks more like a rocket entrance!
but i have one question that i have always thought of.
if it was a rocket like some claim. where did all the passengers go?
and what about the other flights? where did they all go like in the case of shanksville where no bodies or parts where found?
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There is nothing that can be done for these people
So, 110 stories of the "world's strongest buildings" fall in 0.136 seconds per floor (15 seconds divided by 110 stories).
As I said, there is nothing that can be done for these people who wish to believe the government's official conspiracy theory. It matters not how many facts we share.
We're done here.
Hey, Oruval!
I see you did not respond to my post. Can't answer any questions? Dismiss, deflect, and run away like usual. You sure are a coward. Run Oruval! Run!
Can't defy physics.
No amount of malarkey you spread to confuse others will ever defy physics..
Now you want to call me a coward then you name the place and the time and we will meet.. I'll show you how a coward feels as he's rubbing your face in the dirt.
Seems like all you have left in your argument anyhow is trying to get me to fight you.. Why would I want to degrade myself by stooping to your level..
Pathetic is what you are.
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this is
Funny and sad coming from a group of people who have done nothing but avoid questions for years.
Always try and ask a question to answer a question that is your regular tactic right?
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typical official government conspiracy theorist
This from the individual who will not respond to the question, "what makes you believe the official conspiracy theory?"
So I ask again, what makes you believe the official conspiracy theory?
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Maybe he's a coincidence theorist
who thinks evil people don't work together.
Pentagon Strike..
This will explain how no plane hit the Pentagon..
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm
Besides, A 747 would rip apart at that nautical speed that close to the ground. Only reason a plane build like that can reach 500 mph is because the air is extremely thin when you're at cruising altitude. Ask any pilot and they will tell you the air density would not allow a 757 to travel at that rate of speed that low to the ground.. IT"S IMPOSSIBLE.. unless of course you hook a monster rocket to the Rear of the plane and hope the wings don't shear off from the air density!!
P.S. horiusatthegates who posted below me is a DISINFO spreader.. All he does is post half truths and Grey Matter to waste page space.
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horiusatthegates seens to be genuinely interested in truth
I've noticed his posts have been very logical, thorough and filled with great references. The important thing is that, unlike the Truthers, he doesn't ignore evidence that might hurt your theories.
For example, there were zero parts found on site belonging to a cruise missle. However, there were plane parts and body parts found all over the place. You guys want badly for everyone to ignore that evidence. He doesn't, so I'm more inclined to believe what he says as opposed to the half-truths I heard from "Truthers".
These theories that a missle his the Pentagon are just bizarre. Watch this UNDER THREE MINUTE video and tell me how you refute it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNRkb7AaQk
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Sorry
9/11 myths .com dose not count as a credible source since well it cannot even be cited.. THAT MEANS THEIR IS NOT A SINGLE CITEABLE SOURCE on the pages he usually posts.
Here are plenty of citeable sources
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150+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
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230+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
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There have been some studies
There have been some studies which seem to identify the "plane parts" as belonging to an A3 Skywarrior: http://www.rense.com/general70/jt.htm
This seems more consistant with eye-witness testamony than a missile, and is quite plausable.
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Are you scared, Orifice?
Can't answer any questions? Dismiss, deflect, and run away like usual. You sure are a coward.
Explain this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HLDgjYuRHk
This video proves your near free fall speed claim is a lie. If your near free fall speed claim is a lie, then your controlled demolition theory, which would have made the buildings fall at free fall speed, is a lie as well. Watch this video and learn that Oruval is the one who spreads DISINFO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4
You are telling me
With your childish name calling and videos that physics are breakable by 19 terrorists because they hate our freedoms.. I don't care if it was Jesus Christ himself that said wtc 7 was going to fall.. It sure as hell wouldn't have crumbled right down the path of most resistance.. It should have fell over onto other buildings. But demolitions were used.
Let's look at this with common sense shall we disinfo spreader.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VfvqO4wVLM
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Great Vid, and yes
Great Vid, and yes "whoreassheisatthegates" sold his soul for what it was worth.... a couple of happy meals and a blockbuster membership card. Absolutely worthless drivel.
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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.
Hey there, Cok Swallowaday!
You sold your soul when you suggest that hundreds of thousands of your fellow countrymen were complicit in, or conspired in, the murder of 3,000 of their fellow countrymen. You are a despicable person.
Here is a list, not complete of course, of those you accuse, as part of your "inside job" conspiracy.
"What is the total? It's hard to say, not least because some people could have more than one conspiracy or coverup-related task. Still, here are some of the people who have very useful knowledge about 9/11 events (assuming you accept all the 9/11 conspiracy theories; cross off names here for the ones you don’t)
CIA agent Larry Mitchell for meeting with bin Laden in the months before 9/11, and everyone else in the CIA who knows they're not actually trying to capture him after all
GW Bush and various family members (if you're to believe the relevance of Bush family members being involved with the WTC security company Stratesec)
Condoleezza Rice (if you believe she had enough knowledge to warn Willie Brown that he might be in danger)
John Ashcroft (if you believe he had enough knowledge to decide not to fly commercial flights)
Larry Silverstein (if you believe he knew 9/11 was coming and that there were explosives in WTC7)
The 19 people who played the part of the hijackers, if you believe they were just their to play a role and were never on the planes
Enough senior people at the FBI to block progress in the Moussaoui case, ensure the Phoenix memo was ignored, and more
Ahmad Umar Sheikh for funding the hijackers, General Mahmoud Ahmad for ordering him to do so, and enough of the ISI to get the money and cover up that they were doing this for the US
Everyone who found out about the attacks in advance, and chose not to go into work rather than warn anyone else, and didn't mention this after the fact (thousands of Israelis in the towers, and so on), and everyone who warned them
Everyone responsible for the insider trading before the attacks, the CIA for supposedly monitoring these transactions but doing nothing about them, and enough of the SEC and FBI to ensure that the report was a whitewash
The members of Bush’s secret service team on 9/11 (who presumably either knew in advance that he was safe, or haven’t spoken out about their surprise about what happened subsequently)
The five "dancing Israelis" who filmed the attack "as it happened", and presumably many others in Israeli Intelligence, and enough people in the police or FBI to cover up the details of the case and get them shipped out
Everyone responsible for planting evidence in the hijackers cars, bags and so on
Everyone responsible for planting evidence in the WTC wreckage (passports etc), or removing it (WTC black boxes)
Air Traffic Control and flight schedulers at the takeoff airports (to cope with the double flights), and to make sure they didn't follow procedure in reporting the hijackings promptly
Whoever prepared the "special" planes swapped for the real flights, complete with "missile pod" for firing into the towers just before impact, and the ATC and Norad staff who didn't mention the swap
Norad and senior officers working at the day (so they could lie about the war games and their lack of response)
Fighter pilots who deliberately flew too slowly so they wouldn't reach the aircraft in time
Whoever shot down Flight 93, and the senior officers who helped cover it up
Everyone who researched the passengers, then all the actors who used that research to make fake mobile calls to their relatives, and either the phone company or the FBI for covering up the phone records
Everyone involved in killing hundreds of passengers, assuming they didn't die in the crashes and were killed later
Everyone involved in transporting their bodies to the various scenes if they did, or faking the DNA evidence if they didn't
The people who researched the WTC to find out the best place to place explosives
The people who planted the explosives through the WTC towers and WTC7
Whoever detonated the WTC explosives at various different times of the day
Enough of the New York Fire and Police Departments to shut up everyone else and make sure they didn't try to investigate why all their friends and colleagues died
Everyone who prepared the remote control plane that really flew into the Pentagon, and whoever remote-controlled it, and the Washington Air Traffic Controllers who aren't allowed to talk about the extra radar blip they saw over the Pentagon (if Flight 77 really flew over it)
The Sheraton hotel staff who reportedly saw the video of the plane as it flew past to the Pentagon, but have never said that it wasn't the "official" flight
The people who ensured the Pentagon missile defence systems were disabled to the plane could hit
The people who planted the fake Pentagon evidence, from body parts to black boxes, and those who prepared it
The people who faked additional evidence around the Pentagon, bringing down lampposts etc in an effort to make it look like a large winged plane carried out the attack
Rudolph Giuliani for having advance knowledge that the WTC was going to collapse, and for helping to ensure that the steel was disposed of quickly
Enough people at American and United Airlines to keep quiet about the absence of the hijackers names from the passenger manifests
Enough people at CNN not to question the absence of the hijackers names from the flight manifests, if you believe that's what their victims lists really are
Enough people at FEMA and NIST to ensure any reports and analyses produced were whitewashes
Enough senior officials at the many WTC insurance companies to ensure the doubts were ignored and claims were paid
Everyone involved in producing the fake bin Laden "confession" video(s)
Khalid Al-Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi Bin Al-Sheeba for discussing how they planned 9/11 on audio tape even though this didn’t happen, and perhaps al Jazeera reporter Yosri Fouda for getting the interview (if we assume he knows it isn't true)
All the other Al Qaeda members who've either implicitly or explicitly accepted responsibility for 9/11, even when they know it was carried out by someone else
The staff of the 9/11 Commission for deliberately obscuring the truth
"Only a handful of architects and engineers question the NIST Report, but they have never come up with an alternative. Although at first blush it may seem impressive that these people don't believe the NIST Report, remember that there are 123,000 members of ASCE(American Society of Civil Engineers) who do not question the NIST Report. There are also 80,000 members of AIA(American Institute of Architects) who do not question the NIST Report.
Although their field of expertise is not related to the construction of buildings - they don't seem to have a problem with that over at AE911truth - there are also 120,000 members of ASME(American Society of Mechanical Engineers) who do not question the NIST report. There are also 370,000 members of IEEE(Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers) who do not question the NIST report. There are also 40,000 members of AIChE(American Institute of Chemical Engineers) who do not question the NIST Report. There are also 35,000 members of AIAA (American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics) who do not question the NIST report. So who would you rather believe?
Bush says: "Let us not
You can't say anything that isn't complicated, can you? You know, the truth is almost always simple and straightfoward, and you reveal your own hyprocrisy when you ignore/avoid simple straigtforward issues like "why won't they show us the video" and go off on your disinfo laden rants. You realize that noone is listening to you don't you? You are losing.... badly.
Bush says: "Let us not tolerate conspiracy theories...."
Ok, very easy to fix......SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
"Anyone who can't see that it was a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon is a moron...."
Ok, very easy to prove.....SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
"9/11 truthers are wrong and should shut up..."
Ok, very easy to prove and get what you want....SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
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whoreatthegate, what
whoreatthegate,
what government agency do you work for?
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Which Psychiatric Hospital did you escape from?
the one just down the street
the one just down the street from you! I can see you sitting at your computer!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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Just curious. I promise I will not tell them your a regular at DP. I need you here. Any time I need a good laugh, I just look for your posts. You never let me down.
I have some questions
Why do truthers ask questions that they already know the answers too? If someone answers your questions, you just say it is government disinformation. Truthers never refute or debunk this so called government disinformation. Your "evidence" has been debunked for a long time now. Why don't you debunk the debunkers? You just dismiss counter evidence or counter arguments without a rebuttal, except of course, ad hominem attacks. I would think if you want to spread your "truth" to people that you would spend some time debunking the "government disinformation", so that people would believe that your "truth" is correct. As long as you do not address the "debunkers" counter evidence or arguments, you will not reach "critical mass", as you call it.
Which pics are you talking about, infospill? When making statements about hole at the pentagon, you should provide sources or references to what you are talking about. Are you talking about these pictures?
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/punchou...
Here is a video concerning the pentagon attack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNRkb7AaQk
I know you will not watch it and dismiss it as "government disinformation", but I thought I might post it anyways, in case anyone who isn't scared to see counter evidence to their beliefs, wanted to see it.
Here's 4 more on the pentagon.
http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Pentagon_debris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8B-AvIt6V4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1wQ2BJsgx0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBHi9CbrNf4&feature=related
Concerning your statement about no bodies or parts being found in shanksville, watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkivdEGph9A
Here's one more concerning flight 93:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgjWU6jXrdc
Please explain this video truthers. I still haven't heard an explanation. You always avoid this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HLDgjYuRHk
Here are pictures of human remains from the pentagon attack. ***Warning very graphic.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/humanre...
There photos are taken from this site below. Click the link if you want to see more photos concerning the pentagon attack.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/index.html
thank you...I watched all the videos
They were very informative and also make some very good points.
I have also seen other videos from the 9/11 truth movement that ALSO make some very good points and raise questions.
I really believe that there needs to be a OPEN comprehensive investigation that answers all these questions....b/c both sides make some very good points and raise very good arguments.
Dialogue is healthy. Truth is freedom.
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VERY good reply, h4w!
Although I am convinced that the "official" theory is BS, I think we all can agree that
"...there needs to be a(sic) OPEN comprehensive investigation that answers all these questions..."
Dan
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(Better) to be confused in the search for truth than fully confident and sound asleep in a dream of lies.
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...let it not be said that we did nothing.
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Bush says: "Let us not
Bush says: "Let us not tolerate conspiracy theories...."
Ok, very easy to fix......SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
"Anyone who can't see that it was a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon is a moron...."
Ok, very easy to prove.....SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
"9/11 truthers are wrong and should shut up..."
Ok, very easy to prove and get what you want....SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.
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They are on that Island like in the series lost. Where it can't be seen on radar and can move from one location to another.
"I don't want to be in a battle . . . but
waiting on the edge of one I can't escape
is even worse"
"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"
Bush says: "Let us not
Bush says: "Let us not tolerate conspiracy theories...."
Ok, very easy to fix......SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
"Anyone who can't see that it was a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon is a moron...."
Ok, very easy to prove.....SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
"9/11 truthers are wrong and should shut up..."
Ok, very easy to prove and get what you want....SHOW US THE DAMN VIDEO~
If anyone wants to add any more to this list, feel free...
Doc Holladay
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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.
A Lot Of Truth Hidden In Those Words
"Let us not tolerate conspiracy theories...."
Reverse truth, if you will.
The Pentagon hoax is much
The Pentagon hoax is much harder to disprove than the WTC-7 hoax.
The military can claim anything it wants about the wreckage and the crime scene, and the public will accept it.
By contrast, with WTC-7 you have a 47-story skyscraper on video that displays explosive squibs in a pattern as it shudders and falls into its footprint...from an office supply fire on the Twelth Floor.
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Wha?
--"By contrast, with WTC-7 you have a 47-story skyscraper on video that displays explosive squibs in a pattern as it shudders and falls into its footprint...from an office supply fire on the Twelth Floor."
Um, no. No you don't have evidence of explosive squibs. What you do have is a building with a 20-floor high hole near the base it that burned all afternoon and finally fell at 5:30 as all the firemen on scene knew it would. The hole, by the way, was caused by debris hitting it from one of the tower collapses.
You need to get this "how did three buildings fall if there were only two airplanes" BS out of your head.
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50 min. after the world knows we are under attack
that is right folks, almost an hour!
The 1st plane hit the tower, we were all(?) surprised. The 2nd plane hits the 2nd tower; this is no coincidence, pilot error, whatever..... we are under attack, Period... and we all knew it.
SO, we are to believe that we, the USA, The Military Superpower of the World, with its center command, the Pentagon, with nearly an hour of foreknowledge that we are in fact under attack, in close proximity to the capital/ White house/ ETC, has no (1) plane detection ability (2) anti-aircraft weaponry (3)ability to scramble fighter jets or (4) cameras to show that infact a passenger jet flew threw every wall (Drywall I assume) of a side of the Pentagon and then magically disintegrated .
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