NIST final release now of building 7 with diagrams . Too funny have a look.
November 20, 2008
NIST Releases Final WTC 7 Investigation Report
Graphic showing the buckling of WTC 7 Column 79 (circled area), the local failure identified as the initiating event in the building's progressive collapse.
Credit: NIST Building and Fire Research Laboratory
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The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) today released its final report on the Sept. 11, 2001, collapse of the 47-story World Trade Center building 7 (WTC 7) in New York City. The final report is strengthened by clarifications and supplemental text suggested by organizations and individuals worldwide in response to the draft WTC 7 report, released for public comment on Aug. 21, but the revisions did not alter the investigation team’s major findings and recommendations, which include identification of fire as the primary cause for the building’s failure.
The extensive three-year scientific and technical building and fire safety investigation found that the fires on multiple floors in WTC 7, which were uncontrolled but otherwise similar to fires experienced in other tall buildings, caused an extraordinary event. Heating of floor beams and girders caused a critical support column to fail, initiating a fire-induced progressive collapse that brought the building down.
In response to comments from the building community, NIST conducted an additional computer analysis. The goal was to see if the loss of WTC 7’s Column 79—the structural component identified as the one whose failure on 9/11 started the progressive collapse—would still have led to a complete loss of the building if fire or damage from the falling debris of the nearby WTC 1 tower were not factors. The investigation team concluded that the column’s failure under any circumstance would have initiated the destructive sequence of events.
Other revisions to the final WTC 7 report included:
Expanding the discussion of firestopping, the material placed between floors to prevent floor-to-floor fire spread;
Clarifying the description of thermal expansion as it related to WTC 7’s shear studs and floor beams; and
Explaining in greater detail the computer modeling approach used to define where and when the fire in WTC 7 started and the extent of window breakage as a result of fire.
With the release of the final WTC 7 report, NIST has completed its federal building and fire safety investigation of the WTC disaster that began in August 2002. A three-year study of the collapses of the WTC towers (WTC 1 and 2) was completed in October 2005. More than 20 changes in the U.S. model building and fire codes have already been adopted based on the findings and recommendations from the investigation.
NIST will now work with various public and private groups toward implementing additional changes to the U.S. model building and fire codes including those based on the 13 recommendations from the WTC 7 report (one new and 12 reiterated from the towers investigation).
The complete text of the final WTC 7 report, a video describing the WTC 7 investigation findings, a of all comments received on the draft WTC 7 report, a chart tracking the progress toward implementing all of the NIST WTC recommendations, and other materials may be accessed at http://wtc.nist.gov.
Go here for the silly diagram.
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/techbeat/tbx2008_1120_wtc...
Of course
The gummy bears holding the steel frame together all melted at once due to the toaster being left on.
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Flight 93
Ever considered that the plane that was shot down over PA was meant to hit the rest of the WTC complex including 7?
I'm confused
here on who exactly owned the towers @ the time. I've heard the ny port authority, Lewis Eisenburg, Rockefeller, (supposedly transferring ownership just prior with the terrorism clause) to Silverstein.
Owned by NY Port Authority (run by Rockefellers)
Leased by Silverstein.
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and just what the hell ever.....
let's everybody check out rem koolhaus's hotel burning in Beijing a few weeks back. that thing is TOAST.
where art thou thermal expansion? when we needed you?
i thought that thing was just going to fall down like it had been put up there with super glue.
you know.............like....i mean........like like............you know........i mean like.............the WTC buildings were.............you know.........
9/11= INSIDE JOB
9/11 was an inside job; anyone who doesn't realize it either hasn't done their research or is seriously deluded by naive and weak government worship. Waco, ruby ridge, OKC, Terrance Yeaky, USS Liberty, JFK, and many others were inside jobs too. Devil worshippers run our government at the highest levels. They will be defeated.
Glory to God in the Highest.
Keep up the good work.
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"All men in power should be distrusted.." -James Madison
I don't think 9/11 was an inside job.
Not entirely. The cover-up definitely goes all the way up to the highest levels of government, most likely in the name of "national security," and there are likely a few infiltrators involved.
But, it is a fact that Israelis were arrested with explosives on 9/11.
And, it is a fact that Israelis have nuclear weapons.
And, it is a fact that the government has often proclaimed to the world that Israel is one of our closest allies.
Mix those three things together, and you've got a storm.
Some might say, a desert storm.
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Not entirely inside job, just an inside cover up
There were a number of Israeli companies that can be tied to 9/11.
Check out Fabled Enemies for a laundry list of these and other israel/mossad connections. When you tie this with the dual citizenship's of persons in top ranking government roles the picture of how this was pulled off becomes much clearer. Calling it an inside job almost seems like zionist propaganda!
Dov Zakheim
I think there's no question or doubt about zionist involvement. I havent watched Bermas' film yet but I heard he did not even include Dov Zakheim. Is this true, and if so, why wouldn't he include such a key conspirator?
"All men in power should be distrusted.." -James Madison
"All men in power should be distrusted.." -James Madison
Have you guys seen the film "Missing Links"?
It REALLY exposes the Jewish Mafia's role in 9/11. It blew me away.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7877765982288566190
★★★★★★
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Yes, but...
Is there a version of that without the annoying music drowning out the speech?
Why would someone do that? It ruins the video.
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I'm Glad There's Common Ground:)
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
People ask how could you possibly keep the work of say
40-50 people quiet? Easy you make them an offer they can't refuse:
A. A life of luxury for them and their families if they keep quiet
B. Certain death for them and their families if they don't
Of course other tactics are used as well like:
A. Subdivide the tasks to where only a few know the whole plan
B. Recruit people who believe they are doing the patriotic thing for their country - Mousaad?
As I Posted Below, the NIST Manager Told Me it Was Not His Job.
So, even if NIST is investigated for fraud, all he will probably say is that it was not their job to look at anything else, except for to give their opinion of how fire led up to the moment of collapse.
Which is probably true.
NIST did their very best to try to explain their opinion of how fire led to collapse, as that is the mission they were given.
I'm sure they feel guilty though.
A similar limiting of scope could have been forced upon other agencies, which would have prevented a full knowlege of everything, leaving most everyone only to speculate.
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The question is why didn't WTC 7
come down with the other two towers.
My guess is, there was a malfunction and the controlled demolition didn't come off as planned. However, considering there were so many planted charges in place, that would have surely been discovered within a few days and then - how would all of that be explained?
I believe there was a major panic going on that day with the team in charge to find the problem and make it happen. There probably was a lot deliberation between the team and Silverstein during the day on what to do, so when they thought they had fixed to problem he agreed to "pull it" and that is where the slip of the tongue "we decided to go ahead and pull it" came from.
i can see your point...
and i suppose it's valid...
but remember - they had to have a story for its demise......and since no airplanes - or ghosts of planes - hit #7 - then SOMETHING ELSE must have done it.
for the story to ring true to the people who even know about it - they'd have to believe that there was this GREAT BATTLE between the firemen and the fire in the building.
so if it had gone down in the morning - that shit would have looked even MORE suspicious than what we have now......not that what we have now is not suspicious in its own right!!!!
right?
I think the original plan was for WTC7 to go down
when the debris from one of the towers hit it. If that had happened it would have gone down in the commotion, dust and distraction of the big buildings falling.
Because of a malfunction it didn't fall, then the Plan B team had to move in. They couldn't leave it standing because the explosives would have been found.
I love the picture of the
I love the picture of the whole report on the main NIST page. Its like what I would do in college when I had a technical report that was full of crap, just print off all the raw data and statistical analysis and make the TA wade through the 500+ pages of numbers to grade it. Eventually guy would give up and just give you a B.
Kevin Ryan calls it a TNRAT (pronounced tin rat), as in "They'll never read all that".
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Well I'm convinced....
...that these people really think we are all complete idiots.
Nice try NIST... keep working on it. Your homework is way overdo.
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Did NIST study column #
Did NIST study column # 79?
No, they lost it.
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It just gets better and better...
Anyone wanna get a pool going on what the next explanation for the collapse will be?
Someone whose screenname I can't recall once posted...
..."lighting a fart, gone bad."
I thought that one made as much sense as the office supply fire and 'damaged corner' theories.
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lol..... thats a
lol..... thats a classic!
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Ya got that right.
But please, no cartoon on that one, Kevin. Lol.
Okay, I promise.
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Profound View ...
... on the collapse.
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"...an extraordinary event." - NIST
I wrote a clear and concise referenced comment for NIST on Aug 23.
Regarding the thermal data from NASA that the NIST completely excluded from investigation.
Guess who's comment was not published on their site?
I'll post it all in another thread.
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After Speaking with the FBI and NIST Program Manager...
Stephen Cauffman published my comment, after admitting that he had seen it.
Once published it was clear he had personally recieved it and decided not to publish it - the headers showed that it had been singled out and specifically forwarded to him for some reason.
I went to the FBI and requested an investigation into the fraud and public corruption of the 9/11 investigation. I gave them many of Steven Jones' papers along with the NASA thermal data (they must already know all this right?)
If the FBI is as corrupt as the rest of the government, I doubt they will do anything, except for put me on a list to watch. But I felt I had a duty to at least try to get something done.
I was going to post the details, but it's probably best that I don't.
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Please post the details!
Thanks.
Confronting the NIST Program Manager
Let me just say, that I ran into many brick walls. I called the Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General, which the NIST is an agency of, and spoke with the Inspector General asking him to open an investigation.
He told me that he would not open a case and would not look into it, and that I would have to prove that NIST did a fraudulent investigation before he would even open a case. Well, I thought to myself, what is the point of an inspector that does not inspect? If I had to already prove that the investigation was fraudulent before he would even open a case, then what is the point of the Inspector General? Isn't that his job? It's certainly not mine!
The only agency that seemed to listen to me is my local FBI office, and only when I went in person. On the phone I could tell that the agent was just playing with me, and thought I was a "conspiracy theorist." In person, I sat down with another agent, but it really felt more like I was being investigated. I didn't get much sleep that night, nor the next week or two. The first night, cars were driving back and forth in front of my house, in the middle of the night! Cars don't normally drive back and forth in front of anyone's home in the middle of the night, they usually just drive by on their way to their desitnation, right? I would like to think it was just a coincidence. But I also imagine it would be good practice for the FBI to actually investigate sources in order to make sure where the information is coming from. Either way, it has not been fun wondering if I'm being monitored, and I almost wish I had not gone in, it's very stressful.
The reason I felt that I had to do something, was because when I spoke with Stephen Cauffman, Program Manager for the NIST World Trade Center investigation, and I asked why high temperature thermal data from a reputable organization such as NASA was not even studied or mentioned once in all of NIST's investigations, and why he did not publish my comment when he published many others, he flat out told me that his job was only to explain what caused the World Trade Center buildings to collapse and that anything that happened after the moment of collapse they were not concerned with. Cauffman said that NIST was NOT interested in looking at any evidence that was gathered after the collapse of the buildings, because they were not hired to do that. He said the only thing they were supposed to investigate is their opinion of how fire led up to and caused the moment of collapse.
Obviously this is an outrage. How can you investigate a crime scene without looking at the evidence on the ground afterwards? That is basic. Cauffman just said that was not their job.
After my experience, I am sure that NIST knows exactly what brought the buildings down, and they know their investigation is nowhere near complete, but that they are much more afraid than I was when I first went to the FBI; being directly involved, they have much more to lose, including their government jobs, and who knows what else.
I just hope there is some good FBI agent, that is willing to stick his neck out, who picks up the ball and runs with all the information I gave them, and finally exposes this massive case of fraud and public corruption.
This is a specific duty of the FBI.
I have not heard anything back yet, and I will be surprised if I do, but it's only been 3 months.
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