The Psychological Trigger of Hyper-Inflation (Republicae)

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In a fiat monetary system, there will always be a balancing act between inflation and deflation since the money must be manipulated by the central banking system. It is however, very rare for a fiat system to suffer from deflation because of the very nature of the monetary system itself and it only occurs when there has been a boom in the business cycle brought about by, once again, central banking manipulation of interest rates.

Of course, in our “collective” memory, the only thing we can associate deflation with is The Great Depression however, that memory when compared to our current deflationary bout is skewed by the differences between the two monetary systems; the one which existed prior to 1934 and then the one that now exist that came about in 1971. It should be obvious, but perhaps not, that a foundational difference in the monetary systems will have profound effects on both inflation and deflation; along with economic movements and behaviors. In a way, the world was turned upside down in the 30s, not because of The Great Depression, but because of the actions taken by our government in concert with the Federal Reserve Banking System.

When FDR debased our currency through the confiscation of gold and the revaluation of the official price of gold some very interesting things had to take place, similarly when Nixon cut the ties of gold completely from the dollar some drastic changes needed to occur. I don’t think many understand just what had to take place and what was involved to completely transform the monetary system of this country during these two periods. Basically, everything involved with all the very complex relationships within the economy and the market dynamics of domestic economy and later the foreign economy were eliminated during these transformations. It is therefore, impossible to adequately compare any economic disruption prior to those events to those we are now experiencing. While superficial comparisons can be made, the comparisons end there. There is a completely different dynamic at work under a total fiat monetary system than was at word during The Great Depression or even prior to 1971. Indeed, that difference was witnessed during the latter part of the 1970s and into the 1980s when the economy began to experience something that, according to the Keynesian/Neo-Classical “Text-Book” Economists, was not expected nor did it fit into their econometric models. Stagflation was simply not possible under their economic ideology.

Remember, prior to that time there had never been a period when there was a downturn in economic growth while there was an inflationary monetary event. The key, of course, was that the Dollar was no longer tied, in any way, to the only anchor of stability it had ever been tied to and that was gold. Historic inflationary charts reveal a great deal about the effects, not only of sound money, but also of partial and total fiat money. Interestingly, the ability to inflate without the restraint of gold commodity is extremely evident from that singular point in our economic history: 1971. Since that time there has been a steady incline in the amount of fiat money that has been created and perhaps more interesting is the steady decline in the overall economic and social health of this country.

The degree at which our Dollar’s purchasing power has been diminished since 1971 is absolutely astounding; actually it should be alarming to all of us. The purpose of money is to act as a means of exchange and when the purchasing power of a currency is drastically debased there is not only an economic consequence, but also a socio-political consequence to such depreciation. When a drastic depreciation takes place over a few decades there is a corresponding decline in both the political and social economy.

When a currency, which is a means of exchange, loses its purchasing power it eventually loses its meaning as a means of exchange, confidence is lost and as that confidence in the money erodes so too does the confidence in the political structure occur.
I have had people say to me that people are making more money today then they ever have in our history; that is true on the surface and it is perhaps one of the greatest deceptions of our time. It is not however, the number of Dollars or the face value of those Dollars that matter, it is the amount of goods and services that those Dollars can be exchanged for that provides the benefit. It is the Quality, not the Quantity of money that provides a social benefit.

Now, it is important to understand that inflation will eventually destroy the fiat monetary system and deflation will prolong the system’s life span. Inflation eats away at the purchase value of fiat money and deflation increases the purchase value of each fiat unit. Thus, as most of us know, inflation has eaten away at approximately 97% of the purchase value of the U.S. Federal Reserve Notes. It has been a type of taxation without any representation whatsoever; that in it would be enough to cause any one of our 18 Century ancestors to rise up in revolution, but we have been effectively duped by a very clever scheme to deprive this nation of our birthright.

Today, this and other countries find themselves in the situation of crisis because that is the belly of the fiat beast; there is a natural inclination toward fiscal abuses, not only on a governmental scale, but on a corporate and individual level as well. Everyone seems to be wondering just how this crisis came about, the answer is extremely easy: the fiat monetary system!

The world has been under the heavy thumb of the central bankers for the last 37 years in particular, prior to that they were restrained by a partial fiat monetary system that would only allow them to play in their cesspool up to their collective ankles. Since 1971 however, they have jumped head-first into the muck and mire of a total fiat system that has allowed them, along with their political comrades, to scrape up the dregs of a monetary system that will ultimately spell disaster, not only for the People of this country, but in the process even the central bankers will suffer as the monetary monster they created and upon which they depend, turns on them with a vengeance and consumes the works of their filthy hands.

Now, in a maddening dash toward the fiat abyss, the central bankers are embarking on a predictable path which will lead to ultimate destruction of the fiat monetary system, the only system they have, the only system they place their faith into and depend upon. Today, although hidden from our view, there is an absolute unprecedented depreciation of our Dollar taking place and few realize the fact that the “precious” fiat Federal Reserve Note, along with just about every other fiat note around the world, is being destroyed.

To give an example of just how skewed our economy is under a fiat system we should look at savings. Normally, under a sound monetary system a decrease in the savings rate will translate into a rise in interest rates, regulating credit accordingly, but not so under a fiat monetary system. Savings have been very low in this country, debt has been high and rates are artificially pressured downward by the FED. Everything in the man-made fiat monetary system is completely contrived and contrary to sound economics; it shows in more ways than we can imagine.

Now, Mises, in his wisdom, stated:
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

Now, that one statement holds a vast amount of information that is very pertinent for us today, for it maps out the only two routes available to the Federal Reserve and this government. Either the Federal Reserve will allow for the economic exhaustion to run its course, abandoning its easy-money-easy-credit fiat policies, or the currency will be destroyed by hyperinflation. The problem of course is that they fear deflation because it will lay their plans before the world, exposing their inner-workings and fraud for all to see; the other alternative they feel they can control, but the awakening will be rude and cold. They live under a grand illusion and perhaps they are as deluded as the majority of politicians and the people themselves, but they will simply not be able to avoid a reality that is about to destroy their system.

At the moment, the bond markets are draining capital away from the economy, but that will not remain the case for much longer. The FED is churning out liquidity in record amounts, primarily in the form of direct infusions instead of the routine fractional reserve system. The massive debt, both public and private, is proving to be more and more difficult to pay off and as interest rates continue to fall, the actual value of that debt increases. The new fiat world order is saturated with malinvestments, stagnate debt and dwindling profits. All the while, the Bond Market sucks productive capital away from sector after sector, creating its own set of problems for the FED analyticals.

We simply don’t grasp just how distorted our economic world really is; it is difficult to understand just what had to take place in the natural order of things when our economy was completely divorced from gold money. Not only did that distort the economic order, but the resulting monetary policies, along with the regulatory policies of the government itself, have created an economic environment that is surreal and fantastical in its mechanics. There has, through market manipulation and fraudulent monetary contortions, been a massive asset mispricing, not only here in the U.S., but around the world.

On top of all that, there is a looming monstrosity lurking on the books of the Bank of International Settlements, you know the Central Bank of Central Banks, and that monstrosity is a vast quagmire of debt derivatives that will soon begin to function as an enormous black-hole. Since there is little knowledge or transparency about these “debt” assets, no requirements of disclosure about what they are and where they are associated, then there is no possible way to prepare for an eventuality of derivative toxicity streaming into the world’s economic circulatory system. One thing is certain, the Federal Reserve, along with our Treasury, is no longer just the lender of last resort, it appears that they have been forced, by their own past actions, to become the buyer of last resort also. They have the “printing presses” full of paper and ink, ready for what comes their way.

One of the problems, of course, is that under a fiat monetary system there will always be an excess of fiat paper then there is a demand for it. That sounds strange, how can there be an excess of money in an economy? The nature of fiat is to run in excess of demand because it must rely upon quantity since it cannot rely upon quality. The economy we see today is exorbitantly inflated by the fiat system, so much so that few people understand the illusion that the quantity of money creates. That is one reason that so few people can wrap their heads around a return to gold money, they look at today’s economy and are magically hypnotized by the face amount of dollars involved and say there is not enough gold to do the job. However, every dollar of economy value is only valued around 3 Cents or less, it does make a huge difference. Even so, the monetary mechanism of gold money does not act the same as fiat money, nor does it require a constant supply to be effective since each unit operates as a means of exchange throughout the economy and is rarely stagnate.

Under a fiat system inflation is the normal stage of operations; it must be inflated to maintain the illusion of its effectiveness. When there is a contraction, or even a simple stall within the creation and expansion of fiat money there is a direct effect on the economy superstructure, as we are currently witnessing in this and other countries. While there are those who believe the underlying debt is a restraint upon the creation of money, the truth is that it only restrains a certain type of fiat money creation. We have been told, not only by Bernanke, but by other central banking heads that they have an unlimited ability to create as much money as they feel they need to effect economic stimulation. What they don’t say is that an unlimited supply of fiat money has very definite consequences. They rarely admit that such an unlimited ability increasingly makes the purchase value of the currency worth less and less.

Another reason why the fiat monetary system must rely upon a continual increase in supply is that there must be some way for the central planners to compensate for the continual decrease in the purchase power of each monetary unit through inflation. Strange isn’t it? They debase the money through the increase of the money supply, but they have to increase the money supply to combat the effects of increasing the money supply and on and on and on and on they go down their yellow brick road as though they know where they are going. Their dilemma, of course, is that there is no way for them to play catch-up with the loss of purchasing power of the currency, not matter how much money they create the currency will always lose more value quicker than they can “print” it out.

The cows come home when the public begin to loose all confidence in the currency. This is particularly true when interest rates, which have been kept at artificially low levels, begin to bend to market pressures and the FED can no longer keep them down. What triggers the wide-spread lack of confidence in the currency is when the people realize that they money is increasingly worthless even when interest rates are beginning to rise, which would normally indicate a stronger value within the currency, but during a highly inflationary environment, the opposite happens. At that point the people begin to spend their increasingly worthless dollars as soon as they get them in their hands. The wild demand for money stops even though there seemingly an unlimited supply of money available. People and markets suddenly realize that all the money in the world cannot substitute for purchasing power of money. It is a strange occurrence and it happens the same way every time. It is almost an overnight epiphany that occurs.

You see, hyperinflation is not only a monetary event, but it is far more of a psychological event. During boom periods of economic fiat expansion, there a demand for money, the problem comes when a deflationary period enters the economic fiat landscape. At that point, as we have seen, the central bankers push the “presses” into overdrive, full steam ahead to avoid facing the consequences of correction associated with a fiat bust. It is during this period that the danger of hyperinflation evolves because the supply of money is rapidly increasing but the demand for that money is decreasing. Eventually, everyone begins to understand that no amount of fiat money can replace the loss of value associated with the money. At that point everyone suddenly gets a mind, they suddenly come to a realization about just how much of a fraud they have been victimized by over the years and they are no longer willing to play the game.

This great psychological event, as I said, always happens suddenly, so fast in fact that the government must respond by revaluing each monetary unit, seeking to exchange old fiat money with lower denominations with new fiat money complete with ever-increasing numbers of zeros on its face. The system, along with the central bank and government, is effectively destroyed. It is all crippled, stripped of its power to enforce not only legal tender laws, but all laws. The government is effectively neutralized by a hyperinflationary event and the fiat monetary system is dealt a final death blow from which it simply cannot recover because it cannot regain the confidence of either the people or the market.

A deflationary depression can be devastating to a country with massive layoffs, bankruptcies, defaults and business closures, but the money is never destroyed through deflation, that is not the case with hyperinflation. Deflationary will prolong the fiat monetary system, almost cleaning the system of excesses but hyperinflation will absolutely destroy everything that is even remotely associated with the currency. A deflationary depression will simply allow the Federal Reserve to continue its fiat shenanigans; hyperinflation will destroy the Federal Reserve, the fractional reserve banking system and the political machine that supports its criminal activity.

We have already been told, time and again, that the Federal Reserve will not allow a long deep deflationary event to occur; the other side of that coin is that their options will include, as we are now seeing, a drastic inflationary push of fiat economic instruments. Remember, our Dollar has already been debased by 97% or more, it will not take much to tip the scale of inflation where the people’s psychology is triggered and they cease any demand for the massive amounts of fiat money coming into the system.

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Technical Work and Astro indicates..

Late 2010 at the most.

As we have seen with this "panic" ...These things turn on a dime and make V bottoms, from deflation to hyperinflation overnight.

What will be the trigger? Perhaps meldowns in other societal institutions.

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One Voice, One Vision, One Love ~ Liberty.
Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.

One Louv. ;-)..

What happened to your last line?

"By the end of 2009, we should see the beginning of run-a-way inflation, by 2010; well it could prove the most difficult year in the history of mankind."

I think you got it exactly. This is what Lindsey Williams predicted--we have one year, at the most. Plan wisely.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

I'm not sure what happened

I'm not sure what happened to that line....it disappeared from sight...interesting.

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Their fear of deflation is causing them to act ...

iirational.

You might be right.

The probability that you are correct with your timeline has improved.

WAHOR!!
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Indeed, they are acting with

Indeed, they are acting with extreme irrationality.

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

Good thread.

People who have trouble grasping what is about to happen should consider how governments raise money to cover their expenditure. There are only three ways.

1. Seigniorage.

This is the "net revenue derived from the issuing of currency". Printing or coining money. This is how the government of Zimbabwae stays afloat!

2. Borrowing money.

Selling bonds. Consider the mind boggling level of government debt owned by foreign governments and private investors. This has been steadily climbing for many decades in the US and Europe.

3. Taxation.

While no-one likes paying taxes, this is how LIMITED government SHOULD finance itself. According to the US constitution, that doesn't include a federal income tax.

For those who scoff at the concept of fed note hyperinflation, consider what will happen when the government bond holders refuse to re-invest!

What happens when they "cash out"? Where does all the NEW money come from? Think about it...

http://www.mises.org/Books/mysteryofbanking.pdf

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

Fluoride anyone?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0he-LZNzVg0&feature=related

More evidence of hyperinflation

http://radio.goldseek.com/sinclairnuggetnov25.mp3

I assume when Greed says that those who are expecting hyperinflation are idiots, he is referring back to the classical Greek definition: "those who are unelected."

Certainly, he can't mean quantitative analysts, people who have a level of understanding and education Greed can only vaguely conceptualize, (or not).

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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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Where is Greed? Has anyone

Where is Greed? Has anyone seen a recent post from him? Someone should title a post: "Greed, where art thou?". I really would like to get a good explanation from the him.

Sinclair is saying exactly

Sinclair is saying exactly what I have been saying: Hyper-Inflation never occurs during a BOOM, it is always a result of the reaction to a BUST.

The worse-case scenario is to have a deflationary recession, deep and raking, then to have a highly inflationary event [hyper-inflation] without an actual recovery within the economy. That is what I see happening.

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

Personally, I think it is more nefarious than that.

I think that we have already entered what most are considering the deflationary period; that in fact is really a disinflationary event. This is being done--and people are being set up--to expect deflation in order for the banks to maximize their profits and holdings. Feel free to correct any point that I may be wrong about, but this is what I see as the endgame:

1. The credit crisis created the appearance that the whole financial system is in turmoil--not hard to do since it is a system that is dependent on people's perceptions, and has nothing underlying to support it.

2. The congress, against the will of the people passes the TARP with no oversight or transparency.

3. The treasury department issues massive amounts of short-term debt, thus taking most of the investment money out of circulation for periods of 30-90 days. This is causing the disinflation that we are witnessing--lower stock and commodity prices--and also has the effect of tricking investors into bonds in a perceived "flight to safety."

4. The TARP money is being given to the member banks of the New York Fed.

5. Due to the panic, the member banks of the New York fed are able to buy up properties, and companies--including other bank--at rock bottom prices. They are colluding to do this, with the blessing of the government, and this action can be witnessed by the massive surges in stock prices at certain times of the trading day. Similarly, we can witness selling in the paper precious metals markets at the same time almost every day (what I refer to as the 10 o'clock drop).

6. The debt that is being used to fund the TARP for the most part is in 30 day and other short term treasuries, so; expect from 30 days after the TARP money first made it to the banks for inflation to begin again, compounding monthly after that--including the interest that is being paid on the short-term debt.

This should lead to two separate but connected events:

First, hyperinflation, maximizing the false paper profits of the stocks that the banks bought, despite the fact that those companies are for the most part zombie operations; and second it will lead to a dollar default when the United States is unable to service the massive amount of debt that it has accumulated. By then, the bankers will have conveniently created the framework for a new international currency, leading to 100% immediate deflation (no amount of dollars will be able to purchase any amount of goods and services).

So, what I expect to see is this period of disinflation, followed by a short-term biflation--since few have the ability or desire to purchase finished goods--followed by hyperinflation, followed by 100% deflation. Shortly after, they will try to instill the new international fiat currency, after the banks of the NY fed own as much as they are able to get their hands on. My guess is that the plan will fail--the BRIC nations are never going to go for it--and we will see World War III followed by the probable breakup of the United States. This of course is an optimistic, best chance scenario. The alternative is a one world fiat currency and dictatorship that could last for another 70-100 years before something else goes wrong and the system fails.

But yeah, the real economy dependent on corporations is done for-- chalk it up as the failure of globalization--the FIRE economy is being propped up by a complicit government, and we are about to face a river's flow of liquidity that will drown everyone dependent on the system who doesn't hold a government or top corporate job before complete systemic collapse. Whoopee.

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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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Personally, I think we are

Personally, I think we are rapidly passing from the disinflationary period into the deflationary slump, perhaps the deepest deflationary slump since the Great Depression. Deflation, like inflation, erases wealth in different ways and with different results. Deflation will decimate the wealth of those holding and depending upon debt for their income and the bottom-line of their businesses. Banks, particularly under a Fractional Reserve System, are very vulnerable to deflationary slumps because it wipes away both present and future earnings. This is especially true when banks are heavily burdened with non-self-liquidating loans, such as mortgages, cars, and other non-productive credit products. This is one reason why the Federal Reserve is and been, attempting to prop up the banking system because of its massive exposure to deflationary pressures. In this case, I see that it is very possible and probable, that the entire banking system is insolvent. Even in the best of times, banks under a Fractional Reserve System teeter on bankruptcy because they face exposure due to the lack of complete reserves.

Once again, I tend to look to history more than conspiracies. The nature of the Federal Reserve and Fractional Reserve System is to attempt a balancing act on a razor blade; the edge is that portion of the blade between boom and bust. It is, of course, an impossibility to achieve with the consistency necessary to avoid either or. Austrian Economics is a perfect methodology to predict such booms and busts. Once more, the nature of the system is to extend as much credit as possible to achieve as much economic growth as possible without lapsing into a bust, it never works however, and as the pendulum swings to the extreme of one side or the other, the Federal Reserve reacts, but it cannot react in terms of actual effective timing. In other words, it cannot adequately judge the timing of its own measures or actually know when those measures will take effect or how they will affect the previous mistakes it made in attempts to correct the last problem it created.

Obviously, I give those who operate the FED little credit in terms of economic sense. I don’t think they or the so-called elite have enough sense to control things as much as some on the DP gives them credit for. From what I am reading, and I read a great deal, I see a genuine panic among the ranks of the “elite”, the CFR, Trilateral Commission and others are in a frantic state of disarray seeking some type of solution to the problems now facing the global economy. While I do believe that there is a great deal of manipulation within the markets, I also believe that the market is so much more powerful and so much stronger than the strongest attempts to manipulate it or even maintain control over it.

That is part of the problem; there is a conflict between the manipulation of the economy and the powerful market forces that will always eventually seek equilibrium within the economy. Man cannot ultimately control the market, it is simply too big, too massive, it is a tidal force that cannot be contained by the attempts of those who seek to have absolute control over it. While the markets are psychological, we must understand that those within the “elite” are also driven by psychological forces as well and, as I said, I see a psychological panic in the writings and the comments of those who we would consider in the “elite”.

TARP, was perhaps one of the greatest things to happen to this country, odd that I would say that, but it has allowed more people in this country to not only question Congress, but to question the entire system. It is a bumbling failure and it is rapidly exposing the absolute idiocy within the system.

Once more, concerning TBonds/TBills; it is an interesting turn of events. It is showing several things, a flight into what is perceived as safe, but even now there are questions arising on many fronts as to the actual safety of those instruments. That is the very last thing that anyone in the FED or the government wishes to see. I think investors, even those who are seasoned, are scrambling to transfer their funds into anything that might protect their investments, but even at that, there are numerous questions beginning to be asked, even by them. Before this period it appears that few ever even considered the questions that are being raised during this current slump. That is a good thing because the more questions are asked the more there is an exposure from the silence they receive from those questions.

Once more, TARP is actually inconsequential at this point; the FED and the government are in the process of doing things never seen before, not even during the Great Depression. There is nothing that exposes more than failure, and we are about to see such failure within the economy, as well as in government that those among the People who have been asleep at the wheel will begin to be shaken awake. We have yet to see the full import of what is happening or what is about to happen. There have been more seeds of revolution planted within the last three months than at anytime before and at one time I said that more seeds were planted because of the Bush Administration, but I stand corrected. This event will scrape away a lot of illusions and delusions among the People, and that is always a good thing.

Now concerning the panic, we have yet to see real panic yet. The interventionism and adventurism, and the FED, along with other entities taking advantage of this slump will eventually come to naught. A hyper-inflationary event will effectively destroy the Federal Reserve, the fiat monetary system and the power of this government. Hyper-inflation will not maximize paper profits or any profits; hyper-inflation is an end-game, particularly on a scale that I am seeing, will end the system as we know it. It will be a scorched earth event. Once this takes place, you can forget about stocks, zombie operations, shadow governments, bankers, the debt and all the rest. The scale of a hyper-inflationary event will be something that history has never seen, the reason for that is the interconnectivity of the global economy.

After such a hyper-inflationary event, particularly on a scale that I am seeing, there will be nothing left to deflate, no fiat money or the power that system provided. The only way that a fiat system can work or be introduced is by viral injection into a sound monetary system. The only thing that can provide relief from a hyper-inflationary event is a sound monetary system, the last resort of any government which has been supported by a fiat system. I do not see a global currency, we have had one since 1971, and it was a global fiat monetary system. There is nothing left for them to build upon, they simply cannot impose another fiat system on top of the ruins of the last system, it would not support such a system, and there is no foundation. As I said, the only way a fiat system can be introduced in by injection into a sound money system, without it there is no substrate on which the fiat virus to grow and expand.

I wrote an article about 6 months ago, it is somewhere on the DP, entitled The Death Knell of the Federal Reserve…take a look at it.

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

Thanks, Republicae

I will look for your essay and reread it. I don't really believe so much in conspiracy as I do collusion--but I do agree with you that the end is not going to be to the liking of the elite; and that hubris is going to play a major part in their downfall.

How unstable things become in the meantime is anyone's guess.

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Oh, I definitely believe

Oh, I definitely believe there has been a massive amount of collusion involved in the whole system since the Bankers first met on Jekyl Island in 1910 and that they sought a definitive advantage and benefit from the system they helped create and promote in this country. I personally feel that the degree of instability will be beyond anything most can conceive at the moment, it will alter our society.

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

HYPER-INFLATION!!! LOL!

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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Go to the link below and be sure to click on the charts, and think about HYPER-INFLATION that so many idiots have been talking about!
http://waronyou.com/2008/11/really-scary-fed-charts-nov-us-b...

Thank you, StaxBrix for the link!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74248

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"The Psychological Trigger of Hyper-Inflation" ??? Do you mean it's all in your head, Republicae? LOL!

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Here are a few tid-bits of

Here are a few tid-bits of GREED's level of understanding, not trying to be mean, but it just amazes me that he continues down the same opinionated road when he can't back up his opinions with factual information that would provide the reader with the necessary information to form an opinion of their own.

"What kind of money system do they have? Do they have a
On June 11th, 2008 GREEDisBAD says:
debt based money system? I don't know. Please, explain their system."

"There is fiat money that is issued by government that is not backed by anything, but required to use it to pay taxes. I think this is what people typically call fiat money.

The dollar is debt based money and arguably backed by collateral. In my opinion, this is a different type of beast and you cannot directly apply inflation argument of fiat money or commodity based money."

"Why would banks be closed in hyper-inflation? I don't get it?
On June 10th, 2008 GREEDisBAD says:"

"Oookay, so if all the banks are closed due to bank runs how will
On June 11th, 2008 GREEDisBAD says:
the money supply increase? "

"Are you talking about the Banking Holiday during the Great
On June 11th, 2008 GREEDisBAD says:
Depression? That was a deflationary depression, wasn't it?
How that would be inflationary?"

"Well, if that's not the case, I think you are very confused or I
On June 10th, 2008 GREEDisBAD says:
am very confused."

"I'm totally opposed to the debt based money system, but
On June 10th, 2008 GREEDisBAD says:
in terms of value, I just love the dollar so much. Yes, I do think that the value of the dollar is likely to go down until the start of the next great depression, but I'd like to accumulate while going down."

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Since you are so unaware of

Since you are so unaware of just what hyper-inflation is, or how it actually occurs then I take all you say as a complement. Believe me, if you had shown that you know anything about monetary mechanices then I would be hurt, truly I would, but you have shown your disdain for information, you have chosen instead to remain myoptic in both your understanding and your ability to look beyond current circumstances.

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

hey GREED... listen to

hey GREED... listen to this.. did you know there is more then 1 kind of INFLATION? tell me where Sinclair is wrong!
http://www.radio.goldseek.com/sinclairnov25player.php

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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Hope you saw, at least, these charts.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FiNhXIv5StE/SRmZMSYuTLI/AAAAAAAADY...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FiNhXIv5StE/SRmZPg76weI/AAAAAAAADY...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FiNhXIv5StE/SRmZbixE-1I/AAAAAAAADY...

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These were ORIGINALLY POSTED ON NOV, 11, 2008.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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Here
http://benbittrolff.blogspot.com/2008/11/really-scary-fed-ch...

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Actually, GREED, they were

Actually, GREED, they were posting long before that on the Federal Reserve Website...

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

WHAT A MORON! Even the Fed didn't update with the OCT data

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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until NOV.

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Unfortunatly GREED, you seem

Unfortunatly GREED, you seem to utterly fail to understand is that Austrian Economics predicts that for every BOOM, there is a subsequent BUST. Deflation is not a surprise, nor was it unexpected. The other thing he fails to understand is that Hyper-Inflation never occurs during a BOOM, it always happens in response to a BUST. The worse-case scenario is to have a very deep deflationary recession, as we are just beginning to see, followed by reactionary hyper-inflation. The deflationary recession beats the crap out of the economy and instead of having an actual recovery, there is a rapid inflationary push through the latter part of the deflationary recession, this is the dangerous part of the equation, the part you and some others are willing to ignore in their myoptic views.

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

Saw them a long time ago

Saw them a long time ago GREED, once more, you fail to look at the bigger picture....you have tunnel vision. I have not only called for a deflationary slump in the past, but I see that slump into the future and see what is in the pipeline. You think deflation is bad, just wait until the massive inflationary bomb hits.....then you will be wishing for deflation, all of us will.

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

Here is the link to one chart that you couldn't click on.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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If you clicked on the charts, you probably found one chart that you couldn't click on. Here is the link to a larger version of the chart.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FiNhXIv5StE/SRmZPg76weI/AAAAAAAADY...

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LOL!

I'd pay to watch a show about you GREED. They could put it on right after "My Name Is Earl".

Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

You are so extremely

First, I have my doubts if you even read the above article. You are so extremely predictable, every little glimmer of deflationary information you get you shine with glee, yet you seem to ignore so very much and it is very obvious to everyone here on the DP except yourself. I find it outstanding that you had to wait to respond to this post for so long, you were eagerly awaiting some tid-bit, some little smidgeon of information to defend your stance, but still you fail to look at the big picture.

I saw those a long time ago GREED, in fact a few months ago I mentioned them along with the fact that in the beginning of the year the non-borrowed reserves had dropped to nearly a -100%, since that time the reserves have exploded, partially due to the fact that the FED raised the rates it pays on such reserves.

However, let us consider a few things. We have a bankrupt government, David Walker said that it has been technically bankrupt for several years now. So, what must a bankrupt government do to get funds?

It will be running at least a Trillion Dollar Deficit, correct?

It will not cut spending, but increase spending, correct?

It will not be able to increase taxes, at least not to a scale that would make a difference, correct?

It is increasingly doubtful that the government will find lenders to borrow much more to operate, correct?

It will no longer be able to borrow from the American People as it did in WWII, they no longer have a savings rate of any notable content, correct?

So, where will all the money come from? It has to come from somewhere and there are no other options left to this government or the Federal Reserve but to directly inject fiat money into the system. No other options left to it, none whatsoever!

Guess, take a wild guess and then determine the effect of that direct monetary process on the economy, I estimate by 2010 at the latest, perhaps sooner!
So, GREED, one day you will learn that it definitely pays to keep your eyes on the broader horizon, focused on the long term and the bigger trends. When you do that then you will begin to understand that these things are not, as you apparently suppose, in a vacuum.

The near term is definitely a deflationary slump, as I have said many times, but the groundwork has been set, and the foundation for hyper-inflation, huge increases in interest rates and massive jumps in the prices of gold and silver are coming. To ignore those factors is to ignore a great deal of information necessary to form an actual educated opinion. So, you can get bogged down in the short-term, blinded by your dogma or you can begin to look at those long-term trends and actually see what is coming down the pike.

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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

so much for

so much for deflation....

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/degraaf/degraaf112408.html

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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Why yes, as a matter of fact!

I think "Never never land" is working on the gold standard and the "North pole"
are working on ginger bread snaps and hot coco.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson

IRAN.... And they stopped trading in FED notes in 2006

Why do you think we are so interested in spreading our democracy to IRAN?

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