Bob Barr caught talking crap about Ron Paul & Chuck Baldwin
Submitted by MickeyMouse on Sat, 11/22/2008 - 00:28
Barr talking crap about Ron Paul & Chuck Baldwin At Reason magazine headquarters in D.C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7HJR8jX9Es
why am i not surprised?
Im still waiting for an official apology by the lp
i just cant believe that some bloggers convinced me to actually shill for this stinky ol' dirtbag, but never again never ever
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is a total sleaze bag. He spread horrible lies about RP early in his campaign about him. This is not a person to give 5 seconds of listening time to. He is evil and his agenda is that of the devil. If someone doesn't agree with RP on issues, that is their right. They can disagree with them on the issues and bring that to light. BUT to slander and lie about a man that has the honest heart and completely unbiased voting record and behavior that RP has is downright wicked.
I did not understand RP's actions. It did go against anything I would have done. But I believe he was trying to tell people out there, regardless of how whack job their beliefs were, that there has to be a better choice than the two clowns they thought were their only options. I didn't like it but I believe it was a very self-sacrificing move for him. It was not about him and his beliefs, it was about getting some justice into the whole election process.
Chuck Baldwin is a very honest, decent man. Nader is, too. It was evident by their debates that they were the kind of man I would like to see in the White House; even if I didn't agree with everything they stood for. At least I knew I could trust them. Wow, now that's a concept.
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Bob who?
I love doing that....
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Does anyone else thing...
he could be a plant?
This was brought up to me by somebody who is a long time Libertarian.
I think he was insurance
Just in case by some strange twist of fate, that the Liberty message got traction. Bob Barr was and is a neo-con shill. Watch the Bill Clinton hearings to see his true nature.
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Agree
Shill!
I don't know if "plant" in
I don't know if "plant" in the sense of government agent is true. But I feel that, inasmuch as he has proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is a very 'shaky' libertarian, and his cohort Root was even shakier (a neocon, no less), it's very feasible that Barr was put up to run as a Libertarian Party placeholder by elements behind the scenes in the national GOP.
It's just speculation, but worth pondering.
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Bob Barr has nothing to apologize for.
When Ron Paul came out and gave a non-answer to his supporters who were looking for him to give an endorsement, I was disapointed. I was more disapointed that that bland endorsement of third party candidates included Cynthia McKinney, a socialist whackjob who wants a reparations check. (see Republic Magazine #8) He later endorsed Chuck Baldwin who, though he is a respectable man, is a religious whackjob. Read the CP platform, they do not respect separation of church and state. I understand why Dr. Paul didn't want to endorse Bob Barr, (he sucks) but it would have been better to say nothing than to sell out. I worked my ass off for Dr. Paul's primary campaign, and to me that endorsement was a very dark moment. I agree with what Bob Barr said, though he did dodge the question. By the way, I think he failed miserably in this election.
Sell out what..?
Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin because Baldwin was (a) a personal friend, (b) one of us (he worked just as hard for Dr. Paul as you claim you did), and (c) Ron Paul stated for months beforehand that Chuck Baldwin was closest to him, in terms of personal beliefs.
Dr. Paul did not sell out anything; he is, and has been, a supporter of the Constitution Party. You don't "sell out" to people with no power.
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He sold out by his prior
He sold out by his prior endorsement of McKinney and Nader. (I should have reread my post and made that more clear) I didn't like it when he endorsed Baldwin, but I understood why. I can respect Nader, as I do Kucinich, but I would never vote for him or even wish that he would get more votes. Seeing Ron Paul on national television saying that he wished more people would vote for Ralph Nader made me physically sick. When you vote third party, you vote more for the party than the person. I personally detest the religious twist on the CP platform. Religion in politics is the among the greatest sins of the GOP, and I refuse to repeat it. That said, Baldwin is a great American, he should have been on a better ticket.
I agree.
Ron Paul seems to have lost his mind with the whole 3rd party press conference thing and saying he wants Nader to get more votes. I have a feeling he was just going along with someone else's "brilliant" gameplan.
I have to agree on the Lefties.
It is giving too much ground to endorse Leftists who share none of your belief systems. People have been giving Leftists too much credit because it's been eight years since we had a Leftist commander in chief. That will change in six weeks, and it's not going to be fun.
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Actual leftist rhetoricians
Actual leftist rhetoricians call Clinton a Republican. Objectively speaking, he was a neoliberal, not a leftist in the '60s New Left mold or the modern progressive one.
They're voicing similar concerns over Obama, who they feel is moving quickly to the right, and citing GOP pundits who've voiced their relative satisfaction with Obama's cabinet picks.
It's important not to engage in inflated rhetoric, because it's like the boy who cried wolf. People will think, hey, if Clinton was a leftist, then that can't be so bad, because the planet didn't explode on his watch. That allows genuine leftists to slip in under the radar.
This is why I want to scream when people call Obama a socialist; they either don't know what socialism means, or they're intentionally using inflated rhetoric to scare people. That's all well and good, as long as they're willing to accept responsibility when an actual socialist gets elected because we had no way to explain to people why actual socialism is a seriously scary proposition. They'll look back on the Obama years and think, hey, the planet didn't explode.
As to what to call them, "Democrat" ought to be derogatory enough (ditto "Republican," for that matter). We should turn both duopoly party names into outright slurs. There are so few principled members of either party that it has become safe to count them as extreme anomalies, while presuming that the vast majority are worthless scum. When the truth suffices, there's no need for rhetoric.
At any rate, those folks who Ron Paul partially endorsed did in fact share 4 key planks of his -- that's why he made the gesture. I think it was a net positive, because it helped draw attention to the duopoly from both sides.
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as they keep their current platform.
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I agree with you, actually,
I agree with you, actually, and I support the Constitution Party.
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you never did any research on Nader Pal
have a look at this thread http://www.dailypaul.com/node/61717
and see that Nader is not a socialist(his father was a small business owner)
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I don't think the LP should apologize to the Ron Paul movement.
--I think they should apologize to libertarians everywhere for permitting Barr to be a standard bearer. They should apologize to fellow Libertarians for marginalizing their own Party.
It was not Barr's 'snubgate' episode, but Russ Verney's comments praising GW Bush that represented the final death knell of party Libertarianism. I cannot conceive of any greater sign that the party has officially "jumped the shark" than praise for the most authoritarian President in US history.
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dear kev. I never asked for an official apology for myself or an
y other Ron Paul supporter. I said they should apologise to Ron Paul who was the only congressman in America who gave them name recognition and made them a viable party at least in the 3rd party scale.
I demand they apologise to the man who fed them(their leadership) when they were hungry rather than bite his hand.
I agree with you on Russ Alaskaron left a good comment way down exposing how Verney has destroyed any third party he got involved with and how he is a NWO shill.
but i disagree with you on the Barr isnt responsible part. Im not a libertarian and im not partisan but tell me please wheres the libertarian plank about personal responsibility. even if Verney was a shill does that make Barr a good guy who was well intended? and listen to this like i told badgerdawg a few comments down even if I compromise and say Barr was this great guy inside who is well intended and a hero and its only his campaign manager doing all the crap really means that Barr is a pawn who will play by his handlers rules and not by the rule of law
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Who F@#kin cares about Bob Barr
He is irrelevant at this point. Fuck him. Get focused on the new agenda,which is shedding light on the criminals at the Federal Reserve.
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oh ya... Eric Don something. I'll call him Captain Von Finksalot.
The guy who spread manure early on in 2007 and really long before that has been working to oust Dr. Paul, feeding created dirt to the Republican Galveston GOP to spread through the internet. Captan Von Finksalot is a "libertarian" activist, founder of the RLC, is Bob Barrs Aid.
I would have voted for Barr, until I found that out and Barr did not show for the 3rd party press conference. He made a very bad tactical error by not showing up.
I ask, who is the one who is a turncoat? Barr or Paul.
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thanks ZonBoni. yeah Dondero is the one who convinced Root
to run. then he endorsed Barr and probably worked with him
then 2 days before the election he wrote a blog in his sorry ass page he calls a blog calling his 3 or 4 libertarian followers to vote for John McCain
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Maybe Bob Barr...
... can now just go away, back to what's he's best at - impeaching Democratic Presidents!!
yeah but even at doing that hes a failure
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At the risk of being
At the risk of being viciously attacked for my opinion, I agree wholeheartedly with Barr's comment about Baldwin.
His comments against Paul's attempt to foster unity among 3rd parties and decision to run again for Congress were asinine.