Jesse Ventura 2012 Petition
Hi all,
I have created a new Jesse Ventura for President 2012 petition and just wanted to let all those here know:
http://www.petitiononline.com/jv2012/petition.html
Let's spread the word - e-mail friends, family, and let's keep people talking about potential candidates to keep an eye on. Recently a couple friends and myself talked politics over dinner and got both of them (one of whom may very well run for Congress at some point in time) very excited about Jesse Ventura. Whether it be Jesse Ventura, Gary Johnson, or even the Good Doctor himself, I feel raising awareness at this point in time is vital. A lot of people didn't like either Obama and McCain and will be open to all of these clear thinkers.
Let's continue to get the word out!
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if the liberty movement is
if the liberty movement is to run a candidate .. we should not run candidates against eachother ... example ron paul and bob barr and other candidates
we need to decide on 1 person
dont be stupid
haha my bad but let people think freely , you can NOT make people bealive what you do , if you do not understand there point of view ....
but even if you got a bumper sticker ..... how many people a day do you trully effect in the long run of truth ......
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That is exactly what i'm
That is exactly what i'm saying ...
We need to choose 1 candidate to run ...
There are several ... it is important to remember that Jesse Ventura would run as an Independent ...
The only way to get someone out there is to have them participate in the debates .... and if one cannot participate in the debates ... he often has little chance of making strides ...
I like Jesse, but I think the debate issue is the only one in the way.
I'm for staying with one of the parties ... specifically Republican to make our views heard to a larger audience and gain more support ... it worked wonderfully with Ron Paul
Remember ... no one knew who the hell RON PAUL was the same way no one really knows who GARY JOHNSON is .... it doesn't matter ... it matters that we can debate with all of the other smacktards on the same stage ... it raises eyebrows
There was a petition created several months ago.
I think Jdayh made it. There were a handful of people here Galacticwhako,SirFelix,wninja,KevinTuma,myself,and others that heavily pushed for JV to run.
Be prepared for nitwits to post whiny crap about some minor thing they don't like about JV. I signed the original petition,and will support your efforts,but I think it would be a good idea to find the original petiton so that you are several hundred signatures ahead of the game. Good luck.
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Also
Be prepared for people to recommend some "no name" for the office of President. These people are always entertaining. Who the hell is Gary Johnson?!? BTW
I would put on some extra thick skin, you will need it.
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Yeah, I supported that idea..IF he'll run.
I do support him, although I doubt he'll run for President. I don't know why he didn't last year. He had lots of time throughout the spring, when he was appearing on the Larry King Show, to declare his candidacy.
If he does run, the logical party would be the Libertarian Party. I know he won't run Republican or Constitution Party.
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You know what is interesting
Is Gerald Celente (one of the top trend forecasters in the world) predicted there would be the creation of a third party by 2012. I wonder how that will take shape.
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A Third Party is 100% dependent upon money, not good ideas.
If it's a new one, it will require lots of money. That's the only reason the Libertarian and Constitution Parties aren't breaking one percent in presidential contests.
If you wanted to create a drive-through cheeseburger chain that knocked McDonald's off its perch--based on the idea that your new hamburgers are much better, tastier, more nutritious--you'd be contemplating a well-meaning fantasy. What cheeseburgers taste like has nothing to do with how successful their restaurant franchises are---that's all about ADVERTISING. Which is all about money.
I've long been an advocate of a new Third Party, but it still comes back to money, so I don't think it's doable at this writing. Several intelligent friends and I discussed this at length recently. It's not feasible without a billionaire donor.
As far as "why not the C4L doing it"---this movement is much too disorganized, and filled with GOP activists, to ever "money bomb" a Third Party into national prominence.
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You're right. Unless the
You're right. Unless the Libertarian Party is able to whip up support in the range of fifty to sixty million dollars, it will be very difficult to compete. How about holding a bake sale with all of those gold bars?
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why not the C4L doing it?
I agree,the CFL is beyond lame,and it angers me to no end as far as a waste of money goes.
I believe what Celente is talking about is the frustration that will come after the disappointment of the Obamanites and the American public in general.
My only hope,if we are still here in 2012,is that a real effort goes to supporting or creating a 3rd party..
Hopefully sheer frustration and distrust of the two party system( as well as money) will fuel this movement toward a 3rd party.
I don't think RP will get near the support he did last time if he decides to run again. Many people including myself were disgusted with how the campaign was run,and the the fizzle at the end,leaving the delegates scratching their head.
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Libertarian does seem most likely
Although it doesn't seem like he is a big fan of the party. Would it be difficult to get on the ballot as a flat-out independent?
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I would think so.
He's clearly libertarian...why not revitalize a party that badly needs it, and has the basics set up for ballot access, instead of doing an independent run?
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It would be fantastic
to get some life breathed into the LP indeed. I think Jesse would be perfect for the role.
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The Libertarian Party desperately needs a good candidate.
The party activists clearly do not understand the importance of having a good standard bearer, based on their messages of support for Bob Barr, who has all but destroyed the party's credibility.
Unless someone like Ventura can save the party, it's probably destined to become defunct, like the Reform Party. The presidential candidate is very important. It is less important that the standard bearer be successful than the standard bearer preaching the message of the party itself.
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Will do
I believe I found it; it has 100+ signatures or so. Will look into it...
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No guessing regarding my opinion. ;)
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