**POPULATION CONTROL - THE AIDS MYTH**
A group of reputable medical doctors and scientists from all over the world debunk the myth of HIV and AIDS. The video is a forum for their observations and research, which include the following two points that I am briefly summarizing:
1. The virus HIV has not been found in the human body and may not even exist. When you go for an HIV blood test if a certain array of symptoms appear on your test, you are LABELED as HIV positive. However, the array of symptoms may simply be related to stress factors such as:
* over worked and run down
* you are fighting an illness unknown to you such as the flu, pneumonia etc
* over use of antibiotics (very common these days)
* you live in a third world country/ undernourished / unclean water supply / frequent infections and illness
* promiscuity and the frequent accompanying STDs
* use of street drugs
Now you appear in perfect health, look good, feel good, and have no idea you have some disease, but you are told you are dying soon.
2.Once you have been LABELED with HIV you are encouraged to take the AIDS cocktail of toxic chemical drugs which begin to destroy your body. You begin to appear to be a very ill person and the drugs eventually kill you if you keep taking them. These doctors and scientists propose that AIDS is not a disease but a drug induced death by toxic chemicals.
Some people have refused to take the drugs and simply gone on to live a healthy productive life with no illness.
Now in some countries you need an HIV blood test to get married.
It is now being suggested that every pregnant woman must take the HIV blood test.
Indonesia plans to microchip people who are HIV positive.
Begin to see a pattern?
You could save a life, your own or that of a loved one by watching this video. At least keep it in mind if someone you know is diagnosed as HIV positive.
http://www.thebigagenda.com/channel.php?id=5&video=30&type=d...
Kinda off topic but really on-
What is with all the hate of homosexuals going on around here?
It's a natural response to a natural problem (overpopulation).
Claiming that being homosexual contributes to vulnerability to disease is just ignorant and illogical.
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I got called a name for asking the very same question, Joe.
Christmas seems to bring out the fruitcakes.
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If there is to be
an AIDS vaccine using an HIV virus, which I've heard is being researched, everyone injected with it will become HIV positive. I wonder how the members of the medical profession will explain away that one?
Not true.
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Do you know
how vaccines work?
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I can squash any debate on
I can squash any debate on this subject with this simple, but very telling, news story.
George W. Bush just received the 1st ever International Medal of P.E.A.C.E. for his AIDS relief program the other day.
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=2538
Think about that for a second... if red flags haven't gone off in your head then the Rockefeller National Education Association has won!!!
George W. Bush has been Big Pharm's best friend for 8 years. Bush and Rumsfeld have done more to help this evil industry succeed than any other administration in the short history of the industry.
If people cannot see through this very thin curtain of BS then God help you because you will be slaughtered like one of the flock....
WAKE UP!!!
right along
with Al Gore's Nobel Peace Prize for the global warming hoax. The powers that's be are rewarding these puppets for their alliance to the NWO and its destruction of civilization.
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Sheep. You use that word a lot.
Do you ever think that there might be sheep on both sides?
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holy
chit main!
Rev.Wright speaks out on Gov Lies re AIDS
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jm5fLgdPvlU
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I'm not sure anyone in the
I'm not sure anyone in the science community believes that HIV causes AIDS. It's been pretty much debunked and almost any insightful doctor will tell you it's virtually impossible for heterosexuals to contract "AIDS."
This is actually very old news.
The only way you are at risk of getting HIV is to get tested....
http://www.aliveandwell.org/
How does being a homosexual change your vulnerability
to viruses at all?
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ha ha ... damn...straight
Back in the late 90's
I read an article in the bimonthly magazine Nexus which was about debunking the existence of HIV and AIDS.
I came to understand that: HIV and AIDS do not exist, the virus has never been isolated!
The whole process of diagnosis is fishy at best, totally unreliable at worst.
There is a long list of symptoms. Depending on how many a patient would answer with yes, not in any order of importance, no minimum or maximum number required, the patient would be given the diagnosis HIV and urged to start on drugs to stop possible development into AIDS. As long as the symptoms were on that list.
Also a rather important criterium was whether the person was deemed promiscuous. If so, any of the symptoms identified by the patient, would then have the label HIV, but if the person was not considered promiscuous, the diagnosis was: auto immune disease. Same/similar symptoms, different diagnosis.
The medications and drugs used according to their protocol has helped many to an early grave.
well you might be right
However, i volunteer feeding HIV +/AIDS people, many of whom are dying or close to dying, and the symptoms are NOTHING like anything you ever see in any autoimmune disease.
Secondly. I have seen people in the lab use HIV reverse transcriptase to randomly mutagenize gene sequences as part of directed evolution to semi-rationally engineer useful bacteria. That is quite amazing. I cannot imagine such a thing to have either been engineered (if you know any real scientists, you know that to think that humans might be clever enough to do something like that, that is hubris).
It may be that we have misisolated the agent causing AIDS, but the way the HIV virus purportedly works is devilishly clever, and explains many of the symptoms in a very reasonable fashion. IT's a (+) strand RNA retrovirus, most of its machinery is written in two proteins - GAG and POL.. Parts of its genome are frameshift-written in the coding sequence, and it requires its own protease to cut itself apart the proteins and generate the correct functional parts.
There is also something called Neuro-AIDS which no autoimmune disease can explain. This happens when the HIV virus embeds itself into the gene of neurons (instead of B-cells which it's "programmed" to invade). The result starts of very subtle, apparently AIDS patients get into single-car accidents more frequently. What I personally have noticed is that AIDS patients often become extremely sensitive to light, and very clumsy.
And so with the righteous fire of science the savior strode
forth from the heavens and smote the non-believers with his blade of educated logic...
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Post of the night!
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Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it. John Adams
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I felt that it was suitable given the topics
that relate to this one...
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This topic comes and goes.
What can you do?
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Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it. John Adams
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
Fight it.
Like all the others.
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Tried that on an earlier thread.
Ended up in a circular argument with the Bible. Should have never gone there in the first place. I know better.
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Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it. John Adams
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
plenty believe it
plenty believe it
Aids Fraud Video
I know the producer of another aids fraud video:
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Do you people believe everything that the government tells you? It was the federal government that made the determination that AIDS was a sexually transmitted disease in the 80's. When the government isn't planning false flag terror attacks (Northwoods Document) (September 11, 2001) then they are announcing to the public what diseases they have supposedly discovered. I'm not saying this is a conspiracy. If you have researched the FDA enough you quickly realize they are incompetent at best.
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like global warming
I would challenge anyone to disprove these four facts cited in the video:
Fact 1: In the 25 years since HIV was named to be the cause of AIDS, HIV has never been isolated
Fact 2: Tests used to establish diagnosis of HIV really only detect proteins conjectured to be associated with HIV infection - despite the fact that other better defined disease states are also associated with same proteins
Fact 3: Antiretroviral medications used to treat AIDS often result in increased morbity and mortality
Fact 4: Drug companies and researchers are making loads of money off of research and development of tests and medications related to HIV
My studies and experiences within the context of Western Medicine only support these statements as being facts.
The dominant paradigm in the practice of Western Medicine is "Evidence Based Medicine". Most of the "evidence" stems from research funded to justify the use of pharmacological intervention and/or perpetuate standing health ideologies, so this evidence - while relatively verifiable - hardly constitutes a unified model of healing. Most physicians trust this paradigm as they have been conditioned to do and so are more devout practitioners of an ideology than scientists in the pure sense of seeking truth. Physicians tend to be smarter than the average Joe, buy I haven't observed any direct relationship between higher education and wisdom.
Denial of the existence of HIV is not a denial of an underlying condition resulting in immunosuppression. I liken the HIV question to the global warming debate, which has become more a political/economic debate than a scientific one. Like global warming, immunosuppression happens, but the science behind what's causing it is being largely ignored, suggesting ulterior agendas. Alas, the political solutions to such problems are generally worse than the problems themselves.
Nce post.
Can you please define for me what you mean by "isolated" in the context of fact 1?
Fact 2, is there an "in other words" version of this statement?
Do you have numbers for 3 and 4?
I can definitely use this little challenge. I like the global warming comparison.
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Be sure to watch video
You are kind. My fact list simply summarizes salient points made in the AIDS - The Other Side - video. I think its film makers substantiate their points pretty well, or at least offer a good starting point for further research.
By "isolated" I mean "found". For example, a centrist's observation of this website might lead one to conclude that libertarians exist in this world, but until he finds an actual libertarian in the flesh, he cannot say that he has isolated a libertarian from the general population. Scientists have yet to find one of these free-loving wee beasties.
"In other words", HIV tests don't detect actual viruses. They detect molecular residues which are believed to result from HIV infection - residues which have also been linked to other better known infectious processes - hence resulting in false positives (told you have something you don't). That's like concluding that MSNBC is a libertarian site when a Daily Pauler or 5 leave freedom loving residues on blog links from their site. (Such liberty infestations, however encouraging, would still represent false positives to our hypothetical study.)
Numbers are out there for those who seek.
The Semmelweis Investigation
Here's an informative link:
http://www.rethinkingaids.com/reference/GallosEgg-17Jul08.pdf
Oh thats a real good one
So then, in effect, there are millions of doctors around the world that are all in on this secret, diagnosing people as having AIDS so they can kill them, and all of them have remained completely silent........
Get a life!