Man this rabbit hole is deep!

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Not to be picking on religion or anything but I find this fascinating.

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More like a bottomless pit...lol

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Christianity is total BS

Did you see this http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Weve only been debating it for the past year. I think Peter Joseph plagerized himself off of the video you sent.

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Yes, I've seen it. It's how

Yes, I've seen it. It's how I got where I am now. I still think there's more to it all. PJ believes Jesus was a character made up and never existed. But I think this may be only half right. Jesus could have been an alias, thus making Jesus a character played by a real person. This would explain a lot IMO. PJ claims there is no historical precedence for Jesus to have been a real person. But if Jesus was an alias then Jesus was both real and character.

Jesus name has been made to be synonymous with divinity and this is where I think the train jumps the tracks. If this were true we'd have a whole different thing going now. But if you really look around there can only be one way we got here and what we are told is definitely not it. If we recognize that it is all about control and power of the elite ruling bloodlines. That Jesus came to recapture his fathers throne. Then Jesus could not have been anything but exiled royalty. Son of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEq9KPbFc2A

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

blowin' wind from your ass, you inhaled from another dolt's ass

All xians are not alike. Some are the paganist versions based on Zeit, But there are many believers who know about its roots. You were probably one of the latter or else you would'nt spew foolish Jesus is a myth stuff. You might look smart to dolts like your self but your really blowin' wind from your ass that you breathed in from someone else's ass.

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Jesus man get your head out of your ass before you type!

WTF is a xian!?

You provide nothing and have nothing to add. Perhaps you should get get some information first. Or at least read my post thoroughly. Since I never said Jesus was a myth.

Just look at how many words you used to say nothing and you think I'm dolt?! lol

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Don't believe

the garbage today that calls itself Christianity. You know, in the first century the label Christian was used in a derogatory way (like calling us Paulistas). The believers preferred to be called members of "the Way" (see Acts chapters 9 and 24) though certainly didn't mind being called Christian (despite their accuser's scorn).

The word Christian in the original language (Christianos) means Christ-like. To truly live up to that definition does not resemble much of what passes for Christian today.

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Let me suggest an alternative.

I read Acts chapters 9 and 24, and I couldn't find anything that suggests the persons of whom you are speaking preferred to be called "members of 'the way.'" In fact, I don't see that the phrase "the way" is used as a name at all but simply to describe this group of people by others who really don't understand them that well. In chapter 9, the only thing I could find was:

And Saul,...went to the high priest, and desired of him letters...that if he found any of this way,...he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

I think the writer is just using "the way" informally to refer to the people he (Saul) wanted to lock up. I don't see that the writer or any of those who were being referred to with the term preferred it. More likely, it is just a generic term used to refer to that group of people, their teaching, and their practice. I don't see that it's an adopted name.

Likewise, Paul himself in chapter 24 says:

But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of our fathers...

Again, "the way" seems to be simply a generic term referring to the group of people, their teaching, and/or practice. If it were really a name they liked, Paul would probably have used it in his later letters don't you think?

Similar comments apply to the term "Christian," except this is clearly a specific (derogatory) name which, incidentally, means "little Christ" or "little anointed one" rather than Christ-like as you suggest. But it is a name that seems to only be used by those against the group in question. Notice carefully how Paul responds to its use in chapter 26:

Agrippa said, almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but also all that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am...

Notice that Paul didn't say, "it would be good if you were a Christian," which would have been the natural thing to say, if he liked the term. But he specifically goes out of his way to awkwardly say, "it would be good if you were...like me." The obvious way I see to read this is that he didn't like the term, and knew it was what was used by ignorant people antagonistic to his position, but he also saw that making an issue of that name was not central to his objectives either, so he finds a somewhat diplomatic way to make his point.

excellent reply

and I agree.

Most of what is passed off as 'christendom' has so much mixture from Babylonian/pagan customs and most christians don't even realize it.

Christmas, Easter, SUNday worship were from Constatine and have nothing to do with scripture.

Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog

Deep...

... isn't always profound.

But usually fascinating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p6EDVbKUBE&NR=1

LOL

DJ Jesus!!! lol

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Dude I am a bible guy I don't do xmas

"For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter."

Jeremiah 10:3-4

wow where did that came from??

There is more where that came from!

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I took out my bible and read this in Jeremiah--

This doesn't refer to a Christmas tree, but to a carved wooden idol worshiped by the people. We don't worship Christmas trees---

what do you bow down to and put GIFTS under???

Where do you think the idea for a christmas tree came from??

Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog

This proves you learn something new every day!

I had never heard this objection to a Christmas tree before, so I googled "origin of a Christmas tree" and I found this:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_tree.htm
I don't bow down to a Christmas tree, and the gifts aren't for the tree, for sure! There are many versions, and I will say--it is what is in your heart that counts.

Doing xmas is not a sin

Just know that its roots are in paganism. It did not begin to be practiced in the USA until the early 1900's. The early american settlers wanted the celebration of xmas outlawed. Ya got to admit truth where truth is.

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Glad to hear you learned something...

I wish I had more info to give you....but just keep searching and you will learn alot about how much paganism is found within 'christendom'....it is truly sad and eye opening.

Bottom line....we are called to FOLLOW scripture....not man-made traditions and holidays.

Those traditions have become HIGH PLACES within many hearts....and Yahweh calls His people to chop them down....

The beauty is that the Lord gives His people celebrations found within the Feasts all throughout the years....this is the Heritage of believers....and many are starting to rediscover their roots.

Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog

We don't do the man-made holidays either

but keep the HOLY days.....Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles.

Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog

There are some bible

There are some bible references in the videos. I can't recall any of them right now but interesting indeed.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Trimming trees might be worthless but it sure is pretty.

I put up two myself.

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