There is only one enemy, why do we continue to shy away from the real battle?
I am 95% certain that if we do not accept that organized religion is a front (probably the most powerful one) for the NWO, any efforts to secure liberty are doomed to failure. We will rout out the bankers, rout out the politicians, rout out the media... and keep sending our children to their churches (where many will get their first lesson about sex.)
Go ahead and be offended, I am past caring who I offend. I watch helplessly over and over as I tell people "the battle is over here" and they keep staring at Ron Paul... who will point at that battle a few weeks later, after it is lost... I began calling for people to start thinking about "End the Fed" in about mid-October. The local meetup refused to post my "distracting" idea. It was the last straw in a year-long running battle with the organizers of that group. This time Ron Paul himself called the leader of the meetup and told him this bit of nonsense: That the MOST important thing we could work on was getting his friend Liz elected. So, with the bailout, the crashing dollar, the NWO capturing our financial centers... Ron Paul feels the MOST important thing is Boise's district 16 - in case any of you were wondering where RON PAUL wanted you to put your efforts. On 11-5 when Ron Paul called the elections "a distraction" it made me angry. I know no one dares think or do ANYTHING without direct orders from Ron Paul, but that was EXACTLY what I had told the meetup organizer: The elections were a distraction, that the banking cartel was about to execute a friggin' coup. I even pointed out that Dr. Paul was still a POLITICIAN and when calling his friend's house and talking about HER campaign that he might not be about the "big picture" but of course, the young man believed he had his "marching orders" and he got them straight from Ron Paul.
OK, so by the time the "End the Fed" event rolled around, Baron deRothschild had made his open threat to the world, while leaders of several nations began openly calling for global currency. I have begun posting to arrest this traitor, he has openly admitted to plans to overthrow our Constitution. I get scoffed at. Now Dr. Paul is letting you all in on a big secret: There are plans for global currency. I will tell you all again: The Fed is hellbent on ending itself, we are REACTING again and getting LEFT BEHIND. We do NOT need to "BURN THE FRN" we worked so hard to EARN. Are we really THAT stupid? Cross out the eye above the pyrmaid, write "ARREST DAVID deROTHSCHILD" on the back, or hoard them - but for the love of god, don't be such a tool! The Fed is ending itself! Stop playing catch up, stop being THEIR tool!
Want to get caught up? Begin calling for the arrest of David deRothschild. He has admitted to treason, this is a no brainer. Our soldeirs letting him wander free in NYC is a disgrace!
Want to get AHEAD of the NWO? Research YOUR church. Keep your faith in what your heart and head know to be RIGHT, but STOP believing YOUR church is different. You were lied to on everything else. You were lied to about your church, too. That does NOT mean you can't believe there is a god or in Jesus or whatever you want, but you MUST get it through your heads that your CHURCHES were the FIRST thing the NWO took over! You have been trained to call the Bible "holy" and are afraid to even question it! If I point this out, you have been trained to HATE me and feel good about hating me. Research the Bible like you would any other source. Look at it without fear for once: Read what it SAYS, stop emotionally reacting.
Hack away at your favorite branch: The Fed, The media, whatever - but if anyone cares to start hacking at the ROOT of this, RESEARCH THE CHURCH.
This morning there is a perfect post to get you started, and it is NOT mine: Please read "Illuminati Exposed."
As for me, I am tired. I have tirelessly dug for answers, and tried to honestly relay all that I find. I try to say what I KNOW, what I BELIEVE, what I THINK - I try to communicate as clearly as I can. I KNOW with certainty very few things, but this is one of them:
Refusing to face truth when it does not agree with what we think is how we remain ignorant.
I am tired of tip-toeing around the religious people. You claim to "know" a bunch of stuff about god that is what you BELIEVE. You are certainly free to BELIEVE whatever you want, but when you want to make LAWS that are based on what you believe rather than what is factual, you have robbed me of MY liberty to act on facts.
You think if you get abortions outlawed they will stop? Did they before? Do you understand a woman can induce an abortion with PINEAPPLE? Are you going to outlaw pineapple too?
I will do what I am going to do to keep hacking at the root, but sadly I realize that there is no benefit in continuing to work with the "liberty lovers" who will not speak out about the 9-11 lie, or look into the lie that makes them feel special Jesus loves you for tuning me out, doesn't he? He is SOOO proud of you for not listening to my blasphemy. How DARE I suggest that whatever Creator there may be does NOT require a preacher to interpret, that you must learn to trust the spark of Divine that comes from within you... Burn me at the stake! Heretic! Heretic!
There are a handful of people here that I know are hacking at the root, please contact me if you wish to stay in touch.
Only truth can set us free. Seek the truth, face the truth, speak the truth. Perhaps the truth will bring us together again some day. It has been a very long year, and it is time for me to focus on the battle that I know is the only worthy fight.
I shall fight to liberate truth, and perhaps she shall return the favor.
May you all live well and die honorably.
I would think that it would be obvious to DP'ers:
The gov't is trying to rid the country of religion therefor it must be true.
They removed God from the Pledge of Allegiance, from schools, from movies, from being printed on money, from everything. Those in control don't want people of faith to have any faith. Nothing to live for, nothing to die for. Who would be behind such a conspiracy? Could it be satan?
Now I agree that most churches are lost therefor their members are mislead, but God will condemn these lost churches in His own time. It is unfortunate that it is so hard for people to hear the true words of God and be lead in the path of His Word.
I am a Christian and I do not push my agenda on anyone. If they fail to find Christ or come to God, I will still live my life as I choose; Walking with Christ. And you are free to do as you choose, but to deny me my right to faith would go against everything we are fighting for here; Ron Paul, freedom, peace, liberty, transparency, sound money, free markets, shrinking of gov't..
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"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
The Pledge of Allegiance was created by a Socialist
for collectivist purposes. Injecting "God" into it doesn't change that fact.
Also, why would you want "God" printed on our filthy lie of a currency? Doesn't the Bible talk about "fair weights and measures"? Christians should coin their own money with whatever they want on it.
If Americans were willing to pay for religiously-themed movies, Hollywood would be putting them out once a week. Since when have production companies cared about the content of their movies? They are not made because there is no money in it.
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
The one enemy is the one
The one enemy is the one with the ability to force us to do something. Which is the government. Any government. As long as it is asymmetrically powerful enough to force it's will upon people.
It's not some Baron, or preacher, or church, anything of the sort. Try for a second to live free as the Creator and the Founders conspired to let you, by keeping your earnings, and arming yourself any which way you feel like. Then see who comes to get you.
I can guarantee you it won't be some nefarious sect of boogeymen from the City of London or somewhere. It will be the government, or more specifically, employees of the government. Made up of Americans, just like you or I; that have, based on their own self interest, chosen to pursue a career where harassing others under the guise of law is instrumental to their own personal success.
Just as Jefferson warned, all people, given asymmetric powers, are untrustworthy. Which is why our goal should be to limit government, period. And that means limiting them to do as close to absolutely nothing as we possibly can. Not to conduct witchhunts for Barons or banksters or 9/11 5th columnists or whatnot. But to simply disappear, and as much as humanly possible, get out of the way altogether; leaving people alone to do what they feel like, and to arm themselves to the point where noone will ever dare to prevent them from doing so.
My church has like ten
attendees, it has not been infiltrated. I am a Seventh Day Adventist, just following the Bible, not what any man has to say. I would say the NWO has a strong grip mainly on the Roman Catholic Church, but that dates far back to when the Roman Empire was in power. They have been deceiving the Catholics ever since. I used to be Catholic, until I found all the hypocricies it entailed.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
Attacking Religion
I will say what I always say. Do you want freedom for all or do you want freedom for just yourself on what you believe in or not. We need to unite for liberty and those who are for moral or economic freedom need to unite and fight the marxists and the neo cons. You can fight organized religion after we have won the war for the US.
Wolf In Sheeps Clothing
That you are. Organized Religion has nothing to do with anything. How about that Pastor who educated his congregation about the Fed? How about the Mormon leaders of yesteryear that tried to no avail to educate their congregations about "they" and the NWO?
Religion has nothing to do with it. Satanism does. Satan which is the founder of all these secret organizations which control our country.
You can argue if the Catholics are part of the Satantic cult. I would tend to agree. But many reformist religions aren't part of that cult and some of them actually try to inform them or real history. Unfortunately those congregations love for Satan prevents these educators of the real enemy from making a break through.
The Fed IS the fight. If we can get rid of the Fed or educate people about the true history of this country, they will fight back for us. No man or woman, when faced with the historic truth of 1913 can continue in their plight. The problem is breaking through to them without sounding crazy.
You are the crazy person. Excise the wound. Division destroys any movement. And it is the reason the Leftist Socialist and Communists have actually suceeded. Because the Left only needs one cause to unite, the Right only needs one cause to divide. Until we excise that division and stand united in the cause of getting rid of the Fed, never will we win.
Yes, I would agree with you
It was Christian home school materials who taught me of the Constitution, and the freedoms therein, and the falsity of so many religions, etc. There are good churches, and bad, and many Christians get their religion and their view of real govt. from the Bible, rather than church.
Pineapple??
How does that work??
Hey hey...
If we could rout out the bankers, the politicians, and the media, that would be a pretty good start. And since I don't send my children to church, I'd have nothing to worry about.
Your first paragraph reads to me like you are a little too obsessed with sex. Are you scared to death of nuclear families and such? A heterophobe perhaps?
Church is like abortion. If you don't like church, then don't go to church.
In any case, if you think we are on the verge of routing the bankers, politicians and the media, then I think you are a bit delusional.
You're beating your head against the wall
Refusing to reject our religions will not hamper our efforts to secure liberty. A thousand years from now, all of the current major religions will still be practiced. Hang it up, there are better ways to use your energy.
Never Will I RETREAT
Einstein never gave up, Benjamin Franklin never gave up, Darwin never gave up nor will I. All seekers of real truth, all non religious men. All good citizens of the State. All seekers of liberty!!!!!
O.K.
But you're still banging your head against the wall. Being religious does not exclude one from being a seeker of real truth and liberty. If you're insisting people be non-religious (I don't know if you are or not) then you're the antithesis of freedom and liberty.
Organized Religion
I am finding out that I am not alone on this subject. As a 50 year old that has used the internet extensively as a learning tool, I have discovered many books and authors over the years that have questioned religious writings as fact or fiction.
I believe science has some what destroyed the God thing, and as time goes by will ever more expose this faith based fairy tail (Folk Lure) as a bunch of garbage intended to suppress and control the masses.
I have lost friendships and family members have discarded me over this subject. I love, care and respect others more now than ever before since I abolished my religious beliefs. I hate not the gays, I oppose genocide, I detest slavery, consider women as equals, oppose rapes after military victories, the list goes on and on in the hideous past of the Hebrew and Christian Bible. Wake up people!!!!!
Hmmm
"I hate not the gays, I oppose genocide, I detest slavery, consider women as equals, oppose rapes after military victories....that's wonderful!
Sounds a lot like Jesus' philosophy.
And you had to dump religion to become that moral, heh?
What I'm wondering about
is if apollo13 is so tolerant, then why did he lose friendships and have family members discard him?
the real problem is ...
collectivism - of any sort!. We need to be individuals who join together and not be manipulated by any collective group w/one brain that bands together seeking to devour something. This collectivist BS is dividing us. Can we just be who we were when we we born - free and INDEPENDANT! Born INDEPENDANT to worship as we individually wish, as well. That's our goal and group-thinkers always seem hell-bent on suppressing something from someone else or another group.
Hope you feel better
after that BM
Hey, just change "Jews" to any "Church" and Hitler would be proud of you. Let's ignore the 1st amendment and freedom of religion and go burn down all those churches and throw those pastors in prison...they are the root cause of all our problems...they've been causing problems since they came over on the Mayflower....If we could just get rid of those pesky churches everything would be alright..
They tried that in Russia...didn't work.
Are you for real ???
Agree with you.
Most churches are just nice people who act as extended family to each other.
HOWEVER, as with all large power structures, such as government or church...corruption often takes place in the higher ranks. The bigger the structure the greater the likelihood of corruption.
And I agree with you
that most churches are just nice people who act as extended family to each other. I don't belong to a church personally.
I am aware of the corruption in the higher levels of the church...Catholic as well as Protestant. And I do believe that many have been infiltrated and directed into forming a "one world religion' coordinated through the UN. But I find it humorous that the "atheists" and "new age religions" have no idea that they are simply propaganda tools being used by the NWO to further their agenda. It's amazing how one can see the mote in an other's eye...but never their own.
Organized
religion" is not the root of the problem, but rather just a facet of the distorted human need to own, enslave, and control others on the part of some humans.
It is up to the individual if they choose to give away their freedom of thought to others and allow others to dictate how they should think. Most have given that freedom of thought to the American media. hmmm Others give it to some cult or church.
Most churches are not the enemy. They just provide an extended family group and they try to do nice things in the world.
However at the higher levels in Rome...there is corruption as with all power structures who need to keep the money coming in order to support the power structure. Hence we have taxes and tithing...and they all lead back to the few powerful money masters in the world.
I'm up to my own revolution
I'm up to my own revolution right now. My older Rapa Nui uncle called me a few days ago and wanted to talk to me about my mother's land. He told me that he and my other uncles and aunts want to take another uncle to court and sue him. Why? Extensive power. You see, my mother's mentally ill. Therefore, this uncle of mine took all of my mother's power. My grandfather, who just died a couple of years ago, in 2003 gave my mother her land with the papers and everything. Apparently, the uncle that called me told me that my grandfather got rid of the papers and my mother's papers were useless. Luckily, I have an uncle in Santiago who's an attorney and he's going to help me with this. He knew about what's going on. So, here's the deal. I need to go to Easter Island to get my mother's land back and also get the money from the inheritance since my grandfather and grandmother are both dead. I have money put away and I'm going during the summer. But I was told that, even though this situation looks complicated, I can win because I have Chilean law to back this. Since I'm the older son, I'd get the power of attorney. I'm getting alot of support on this and now I have some things to deal with before I get my mother's things and give them to her.
There are no doubt NWO affiliations within the church
but organized " religion" is not the root of the problem, but rather just a facet of the distorted human need to own, enslave, and control others on the part of some humans who have lagged behind in their evolution of consciousness.
I also believe we do not need an intermediary to connect with God. We are each a spark from God the creator, and God is about love and freedom of choice. Does not the Bible say God gave us free choice? Well that is true.
It is up to the individual if they choose to give away their freedom of thought to others and allow others to dictate how they should think. Most have given that freedom of thought to the American media. hmmm Others give it to some cult or church.
Most churches are not the enemy. They just provide an extended family group and they try to do nice things in the world.
However at the higher levels in Rome...there is corruption as with all power structures who have the need to control others and enslave others in order to keep the money coming in order to support the power structure. Hence we have taxes and tithing...and they all lead back to the few powerful money masters in the world.
All you need do is check out
All you need do is check out Rick Warren and his P.E.A.C.E. plan. He leads the Purpose Driven apostasy that has taken over western christianity and is spreading globally. Warren is CFR member and worse.
Here is a good site to spend some time in.
http://www.crossroad.to/
Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.
"Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left. While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another,they both march in the same direction." - Paul Proctor
thanks
Thanks for the best on the mark post I have ever read. I have been preaching this same thing as hard and fast as I can go for years. Almost no one wants their prized pet sanctified pillar of their life to be anything that they want questioned. Clinging to dogmatic doctrine IS THE REASON we are going like lambs to the slaughter!!!! I'd take your email.
Hawkye's comment is a good one, in my opinion.
"If people can be convinced to route out the bankers, politicians and media I am pretty sure they will be sufficiently enlightened to not fall for the same old crap at church and be highly skeptical of authority figures of any kind at that point."
I don't agree with Chuck Baldwin on everything, but on the subject of organized religion stupidly following their leaders, this article still is the best!
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin474.htm
Christian, Atheist or Agnostic, we all are flawed individuals and we must do what we can (as we see fit). We can appreciate and learn from each other, as we all have our roles.
WAHOR! (as Rhino says)
Having the Power to Win
"I am 95% certain that if we do not accept that organized religion is a front (probably the most powerful one) for the NWO, any efforts to secure liberty are doomed to failure...We will rout out the bankers, rout out the politicians, rout out the media..."
If people can be convinced to route out the bankers, politicians and media I am pretty sure they will be sufficiently enlightened to not fall for the same old crap at church and be highly skeptical of authority figures of any kind at that point.
We have yet to convince them to route out the bankers etc. It would be a good start. You will never convince everyone of all that you believe. But if we can get them on board with routing the bankers, politicians, and media it would be a hell of a start and I'll take it.
We must ask ourselves what will actually effect change? Going out in a blaze of glory as the lone voice in the wilderness will do nothing and leave one as a forgotten sound byte of even that. Uniting on some basic common themes is our best chance t have enough power to effect change.
Not everyone needs to agree on all the details. They only need to know that the current fiat system is bad enslaves them and needs to be done away with. Ron Paul has united millions on this main theme. As things get worse more people will come on board and more will dig deeper eventually.
Try to remember where you were before you began digging deeper and treat others accordingly. The rank and file troops don't always need to know everything the generals and commanders know to win the battle.
Read the Art of War by Sun Tzu it not only applies to physical war but to political and other forms also.
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Famous Quote from Justice William O. Douglas
"The Constitution is not neutral.
It was designed to take the government
off the backs of people."
Famous Quote from Justice William O. Douglas
"The Constitution is not neutral.
It was designed to take the government
off the backs of people."
our perception is our reality...
so i'm thinking...
#1) quit trying to convince other people of ANYTHING! (most of the time we are wasting our breath)...just live your life with your own reality and people will see that and it will spark them to learn...or not!
#2) i have long believed, and i am sometimes reluctant to say this in public, that the "powers that be" or "they" know there is no god, they know there is no heaven and no hell and that is why it is so easy for them to kill, kill, kill, rape, pillage, destroy, everything in their paths to achieve their evil goals...
oh, make no mistake, there is good and evil in this world...its just that evil takes what it wants without regard to human life while good stands by passively waiting for someone to join together to sing kumbaya...
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
I'm only sorry I don't have time to read you post right now.
I read over the first paragraph. If I understand it correctly, you're taking the words right out of my mouth.
I'm a born-again Christian. Let me tell ya, the evangelical world; the religious world ("sorry God; I know you gave your all, but we'd rather pretend we can get to Heaven by ourselves")… The devil's fooling the masses.
People are busy trying to stay as far from God as possible. But liberty without God is only imprisonment with a really vague appearance of liberty.
Just about everyone who answers this post will act like you and I are both crazy. But that's only a byproduct of the awesome popularity of ungodliness.
--Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa
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