Ron Paul admits his mistakes
Dr Paul admits his campaign mistakes from the primary & says that they were not adequately prepared for the explosion in money and support when they came. which I believe is a good thing
I hope he dosent hire anyone from his 2008 campaign to run his 2012 campaign other than his family members and what I believe are loyal people like Debbie Hopper and Jesse Benton
I also hope this time Lew Rockwell, Howard Philips, Chuck Baldwin, G Edward Griffin, Dilorenzo as well as Congressional cos Tom Lizardo are also on the team if he wants to win
Q: What do you think were your biggest mistakes in the primary race, and what would you now do differently?
A: I was always pessimistic and never thought we would get to where we did. My regret is that we couldn’t see how quickly things would grow and were not adequately prepared for the explosion in money and support when they came. There are dozens, hundreds of things we could have done better, but we all worked hard and did our best. And I know we built something that will only get stronger in the years to come.
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Ron Paul for Dog Catcher?
I remember working a booth at our local county fair in summer of 2007. Decked out with, "Ron Paul, Hope for America" signs all over (and not one Ron Paul for President 2008 sign). I was trying to engage people...
many said, "What's he running for, mayor? One guy said, "Is he running for dog-catcher" jokingly. Many rejected the slim jims and said, "I'm not from here" (as I live in a touristy summer spot). I'd say, "But you are from the USA, and this guy's running for president.
In retrospect, I still have two 4x8 signs up on an angle on a billboard in my front yard that say, "Ron Paul, Hope for America". His original signs, although rotten for the presidential race, actually fit in quite well with the times today. So, I leave them up. I'll leave them up indefinitely until I'm forced to take them down (so far my neighbors tolerate them).
Ron Paul may have lost the presidential race, but his record, his testimony, and his revitalization of the liberty movement in Amerca will not be soon forgotten. Or will it?
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www.RxForLiberty.com - cool way to promote Ron to old people.
www.RonaldErnestPaul.com - Ron Paul cards.
www.TroopsSupport2012.com - Support the troops, support Ron Paul.
Agreed. I choose not to display a "Ron Paul:HFA"
sign or sticker early in the campaign (I did later, and in conjunction with the blue signs and decals). I opted for the blue "RP for President 2008" with the website URL below it. The message of the former was too ambiguous for a lesser known candidate.
It's like the Pat Buchanan yard signs he gave me in 2000: "Buchanan/Foster". Huh? I had to get out my huge thick permanent marker and add "FOR PRESIDENT 2000" in huge letters underneath the pre-printed text. Just his name, on a sign, meant nothing to anyone who was not already a Buchanan fan or a Reform Party member.
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Iowa pains me still
we had such a unique chance there.
And Ron got 10% 5th place
not enough time spend there campaigning
take a look at Fred Thompson
he had a campaign bus and went from town to town from village to village holding town meetings with folks...and got rewarded with a 3rd place
if Ron got 3rd place the MSM would not be able to put him under the carpet and NH would be a different story.
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Even our good Doctor didn't expect to win,
and that's not a good way to begin a campaign. That explains a lot. I wish he would have had more serious managment behind him that would have carefully crafted his campaign, because he really did have a one in an American chance this time around. With all the discontent in Wonderland, this was the time. I agree with the writer who suggested a re-count in Iowa. I'm not sure if the votes were there or not, but since Ron Paul finished poorly in Iowa, it was ultra easy for the media cons to lable him as "distant outsider", and we all know too well how gullible our masses are. The farm should have been "bet" on Iowa. It ended there.
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I'm not sure Ron's campaign
I'm not sure Ron's campaign was ever set up to "win", it was set up to get a particular message out. And on that front, is campaign was wildly successful.
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It's time I got this off my chest
Ron Paul should have spent the $165,000 to have a vote recount in the Iowa primary. This was the first big one and he should have won. There were far more Ron Paul supporters there than for any other candidate. Don't you all remember what a long, long, long, long time they took to come out with the results? A recount could have proved that Ron Paul was the real winner. (At the time, people on this site were really mad about the campaign not paying for the recount.)
Ron Paul did not put his House seat on hold and campaign full time. Everyone else did. On a daily basis I would watch C-Span give a list of candidates and where they would be that day. Ron Paul was hardly ever mentioned because he was not campaigning. (At the time, people on this site were divided on this one. Some were saying that that's why Ron Paul was Ron Paul because he was doing the job he was elected to do.) I was in the other camp and called his headquarters pleading for him to campaign full time.
Ron Paul did not inform the media of his events. Remember the Big Philadelphia rally. NO ONE, even "the annointed one" was drawing larger crowds at the time.
Ron Paul did not have any "spokespersons" out in the media pumping him up. Needless to say, every other candidate had their people out there.
Ron Paul did not expect to win.
Ron Paul did not pick up on our momentum.
We, the people who were sending in money, holding up signs on street corners, printing up handouts, calling talk shows, etc., we knew that he was our last chance to reclaim the Constitution. We the people, EXPECTED him to win. He did not.
I can't wait for you to get off you azz and run...
That way we can all complain about you and your mistakes! Oh, I'm sorry I forgot that you have a far better grasp on what it takes to run a presidential campaign then anyone else!
Thank you Dr. Paul for being a patriot even if Mickey Mouse would have been a better candidate! Your name says it all...dimwit!
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Debbie Hopper??
She's ONE of the main reasons I refuse to have anything to do with Campaign For Liberty.
Why is that, exactly?
I don't know anything about Debbie Hopper. What's your complaint?
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She refuses to address
complaints regarding a local CFL "leader" who is obviously a friend of hers and therefore allowed free reign. I am only one of many who have attempted to address the issue with her. She isn't interested in the truth. They get on the conference calls and it's "oh hi girlfriend. I love you too, girl". Nevermind that this person is a bold faced liar and has done a lot of damage to the RP movement. Nevermind that this local "leader" has openly admitted to being "a flaming socialist". And, that's just the tip of the iceberg. The complaints about this "leader" go back to the days of the campaign and have only gotten worse. The same "leader" of the local/state campaign was appointed to "lead" the state/local CFL.
To my knowledge, not a singe local C4L affiliate
has been chartered yet, so any local leaders are purely grassroots and not officially connected with C4L.
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I was led to believe the same thing,
but it's not true.
Proof?
This is what we were specifically told when we asked about chartering local affiliates, while at the C4L Leadership Summit. I have a hard time believing they would lie to us in such an official venue. But I am open to hearing whatever proof to the contrary you may have. Please!
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I wish I had confidence in
I wish I had confidence in the C4L, but I do not.
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How about an apology
from him or someone on his staff? Has one been made? It's not enough just to say mistakes were made. They really wasted millions of the dollars we sent in. It's going to be hard for people to trust to send in money he runs again, because there was almost nothing to show for it but really bad television commercials. It wasn't just a matter of not being prepared for the money, but some people running the campaign, especially whoever was in charge of the millions spent on advertising, were just downright stupid or just didn't care.
Or that
was the plan. Executed to perfection.
I always love it
when someone says something like this. True or not, it just shows you how carefully we think about things now that we are aware of how deceived we have been.
For your next candidate for
For your next candidate for president, you'll know what hard questions need to be asked up front, what goals must be met, and what kind of dollar support should be expected to run a credible campaign. If you get no satisfactory answers right away, you should not support your candidate. To be blunt, Obama ran just about the best campaign I've ever seen in my life, but the candidate was able to deliver on the strategies of the campaign. Focused strategy + $$$$ + tightly managed staff + massive ground level support + huge amounts of luck = Win. Not an easy thing to duplicate.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Is there anyone who can run a campaign
with no big mistakes? Easy to criticize as we look at slow-motion reruns of the plays, but when we were all running full tilt with the ball in the air, the perfect moves weren't so clear.
We were grassroots amateurs from top to bottom. No apologies needed, we accomplished a lot. Should Dr. Paul run again he'd go in with way more respect and credibility than last time.
On the other hand the other parties would know he's a serious threat to their monopoly. They wouldn't just smirk and try to sideline him. They'd throw their full might against him, everything they could dig up about his supporters, allegations of racism, calling him unpatriotic for not supporting the current economic rescue attempts, aiding terrorists by not supporting federal foreign policies, on and on.
You know how easily the MSM distorts positions, and since everyone doesn't have a copies of Dr. Paul's books handy, statements often wouldn't get fact checked.
Our movement is bigger and wiser. But when we go toe to toe with the big guys, we'd better have built a much wider, deeper, bigger, solid base of support. And before we all jump on a new bandwagon I hope there will be a clearer vision of just where we are going. What is the primary goal: educational again, campaigning for the presidency all the way, what?
Last time we weren't all on the same page about the final goal and that is where the disappointment was most bitter. I'm was ok with progress in education about liberty; it was a realistic goal, and I think it was achieved -- just look at how many now question the Federal Reserve.
But if you think change comes from winning the office of U.S. President, then you must strategize very tightly for that goal.
Uhh....Alot of people were
Uhh....Alot of people were criticizing how this revolution/campaign was being run, myself included, and we were run off this site for being 'dividers'.
Folks hate for their world
Folks hate for their world view to be challenged. The prevailing winds at the time were blowing "support Ron no matter what". That was not a good plan and we all paid dearly for it.
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Unfortunately, that 'stay
Unfortunately, that 'stay the course', 'all dissent is treason' mentality forced many good people to leave this campaign.
That's funny...I see you're still here!
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Until a week ago, I hadnt
Until a week ago, I hadnt been on here for a few months.
are you by chance referring
are you by chance referring to the commercial where the guy first says he doesn't always agree with Ron Paul, then 2 seconds later says he does, and then ends by saying "He's Catchin' on, I'm tellin' ya"?
yes... that commercial made me throw up a little in my mouth.
Why did all the commercials they made end up looking like some crappy local business commercial? They were all so terribly corny.
Three reasons for bad ads:
Three reasons for bad ads: Lack of experience, lack of experience and lack of experience.
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I believe Paul should pass the torch
I have to give major props to this post. This is a more detailed idea than the others regarding 2012 republican presidential politics. I still say that Dr. Paul should be involved in the primary by passing the torch to a Gary Johnson. At age 76, Dr. Paul is not going to be looked as a winnable candidate. My question other than Ventura who are the other options. Folks, Mark Sanford of SC is quickly becoming the new darling, so unless you want to get behind him you are going to have to come up with someone quick. Dr. Paul needs to help run a campaign, but it is time to pass the torch for 2012.
Sanford wouldn't even
Sanford wouldn't even endorse Ron Paul.
I have a bit of trouble believing he's the real deal.
I believe Ron Paul has learned a lot from this campaign. He'll do it tons better next time.
He's last comercial (which never got aired ) was actually pretty good.
Next time, he'll expect to win, and plan accordingly.
In the meantime, it's up to us to educate our neighbors. We have a local Section 15 compliant Radio station in Sioux Falls, and we'll be advertising that, as well as talk about local issues in our canvasing, over the next couple years.
Tracy
Not a winnable canidate?
WTF have you been? When he ran they were calling him a no win candidate. Some people forget the past so easily.
There aren't any good second choices in the GOP race.
Next to Ron Paul, Gary Johnson is the closest thing to a second choice , and I think his running for the GOP nomination is a waste of time. He'll be another Duncan Hunter.
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