Who Hid the Flag of The rEVOLution? (Republicae)
Over the months, I have seen the DP devolve from a Politico-Economic forum with real social potency into something that appears to be a mutated hybrid of quasi-religious sciences mixed with a variety of just about every possible conspiracy theory imaginable. At any given time there are at least seven or eight conspiracy theories on the board, all of which garner far more comments than the political and economic threads. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe there are conspiracies, but in my long life of study such conspiracies always follow a logical line and are expressed in far more than just vague assumptions, they can be followed in their progression and in effect to a logical benefit to the conspirators.
What has happened to logic, to critical thinking, to questioning, to debate and rebuttal? I have also noticed that there are many who have become so passionately enthralled with every conspiracy theory that if you dare question their prized conspiracy theories that you instantly become a part of the theory, a member of the vast hidden agenda and your “patriotism” is then questioned. I dare say that type of “patriotism” is itself questionable and of a kind that I abhor as much as I abhor that which passed as “patriotism” in the neo-con camp several years ago.
The DP today looks more like a yellow-press National Enquirer than a rEVOLution. It has become a by-word on various other forums and blogs that I have read, Ron Paul supporters appear to be nothing more than a bunch of KOOKS, tin-foil hat wearers that swallow absolutely any and everything as long as it is a sensationalized conspiracy. That is now the reputation the DP and Ron Paul supporter ranks. Rational thought and Reason have been, for the most part, abandoned, and critical thinking, the very thing that is necessary in our times to achieve actual political progress has been tossed aside for a strange type of emotional idolatry that appears to be a very real diversion to the actual cause of the rEVOLution.
One of the things that I have noticed is that many of those who “push” certain conspiracy theories also infest and infect other forums as well. I question the motives, the real motives behind the onslaught of such postings. I have seen other forums that were basically taken over by such posts; so much so that the original purpose of the forums was effectively abandoned to a new purpose and that was the exposure of every possible conspiracy theory imaginable.
Even some of the most benign non-political forums have been overrun by such CTers. I mean I was on a forum the other day that concerns itself with the issues of older men and low and behold there were conspiracy theorists posting threads about the illuminati.
I am sure I will get a number of derisions about this post, but I really don’t care, derisions have never bothered me much. I am a man who loves a good debate and I can handle educated logical rebuttals, but the one thing I cannot abide is irrational, illogical and just plain stupid bunk that takes our eyes off the prize of Freedom and Liberty for this Country. Just take a look at the DP folks, look back at the first few months of the forum’s existence and look at it now.
I am not asking anyone to refrain from their beliefs or to forbid anyone from posting anything they want to, but I do ask that we consider just why the DP was formed, the purpose behind the rEVOLution. I do question the reason why there have been so many CTs popping up and how those threads tend to spread the movement thin, very thin and divert our eyes away from the reason we are here.
One man's theory is another man's truth
If we want to freely express opinions we must first allow others that same courtesy. I enjoy your posts and usually learn something but I've also encountered resentment when my opinion doesn't agree with yours.
Larry
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Republicae - long time no see!
I think you make some good points to ponder. In your closing, you point to "the reason we are here". Wondering if you would be interested in clarifying and expounding upon that reason?
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I'm mad that my self titled posts are getting buried by threads that are more interesting.
Some people would rather jab themselves in the eye with a sharp stick, rather than have an Austrian Economics discussion.
Conspiracy has existed since the dawn of man. It will continue to be discussed by those who are interested. If economic discussion was more intriguing, then it would stay at the top
Get over yourself.
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In my research over the years, it has always been rather irritating in my estimation when facts are intertwined with half-truths and utter fiction.
Case in point, I recently was conducting three days of nose to the grindstone research as it relates to the Direct Election of Senators and more specifically, the passage of the "Currency Bill" aka "The FEDRAL RESERVE ACT of 1913"
Nothing seems to have so much gooblyguck intertwined with fact as the debate and subsequent passage of said legislation.
Yet these hyperbolic half-truths persist, only three Senators passed the bill on the night before Christmas, the bill was never passed, blah blah blah.
All of the aforementioned are flat out wrong and can be substantiated as such by simple research of the Congressional Digest and newspaper articles from that time.
Unsourced fluff is as dangerous to our cause as tyrannical politicians. It paints us into the corner of fringe oblivion.
If we are to succeed, we must make well-reasoned articulations substantiated by credible sources.
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"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Up until the summer of 2007
Up until the summer of 2007 I was one of the sheeple. Then I stumbled upon Daily Paul. Ron Paul and DP have literally changed my life. It was because of DP that I learned about the erosion of our liberties under the current administration. But for DP I would not have known about HR1955 and FISA. I would never have read Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead. I would never have watched Freedom to Fascism. I would not know the difference between Keynesian and Austrian economics.
In the past DP had the flag feature. Seemingly unRonPaul like threads were deleted, never to see the light of day again. From some of those deleted threads I learned and grew and my brain would spark and fire, only to see the thread disappear just when it was really getting going. DP is all the better for removing the flag feature.
At times DP is slow and sometimes the threads have been insulting or unappealing, but as a community, we have been pretty good at dealing with them. DP has some of the finest writers, many of whom continue to make this perhaps the finest site on the web. Republicae, I offer this thread as a perfect example of all that is priceless about DP. I wouldn't change a thing.
...."planet X" morons...........
"The DP today looks more like a yellow-press National Enquirer than a rEVOLution. It has become a by-word on various other forums and blogs that I have read, Ron Paul supporters appear to be nothing more than a bunch of KOOKS, tin-foil hat wearers that swallow absolutely any and everything as long as it is a sensationalized conspiracy. That is now the reputation the DP and Ron Paul supporter ranks."
Yeah, no kidding man. This is a great topic for a thread. Much needed.
All these intellectual retards posting threads about "planet x" and "star visitors" are poisoning the well. ARE THEY REALLY SO STUPID THAT THEY DONT SEE THE DAMAGE DONE BY THIS??? Or do they just not care, which would indicate that they arent really "one of us"? OR worse yet, maybe thats their intended goal? To wound the credibility of the DP at every opportunity, until there is none.
In the "planet x" thread, the poster noted that people might think him a "glue sniffer". Yet it doesnt bother him at all that this type of drivel makes us all look like "glue sniffers". But then again, maybe that was his goal. He actually thanked me for bumping his thread.
Imagine people out there, maybe people who are just becoming aware of things like the true nature of the FED. If they end up here in a search for knowledge, what do they see? "Star visitors?" "Planet X"? They then laugh their asses off, write of Ron Paul and his people as kooks, and go back to FOX news.
"Poisoning the well", people. This is really very simple. This isnt about free speech. THis isnt the time or place for this type of mindless DRIVEL. I recommended trying to find one of David Ickes fan sites (Ive never been there, but surely there are some), but the moron prefers to post his "mystery planet" junk on the Daily Paul. He says people are interested here. Hes doing it for us, I suppose.
Arent there supposed to be mods here? What the hell? Are they on vacation or what? This "planet x/star visitor" garbage is just EMBARRASSING the Daily Paul. And these morons that post it dont even seem to care. In fact it seems to titilate them. FJV aksed the pointed question, "were you hired to spam us?". One has to wonder. Surely noone could be as collosally ignorant as to think that this kind of lunacy wouldnt hurt RPs image. But thats exactly what mr "planet x" says. He says Im an "idiot" if I think his kind of tin foil hat bullshit maligns the DP. The guy that believes in "planet X" calls me an idiot, thats rich, I know.
Thanks again to people like Republicae and FreeJesseVentura for pointing these "planet x" assclowns out.
People, dont fuel the fires and keep those ignorant threads bumped, but call these retards out when you see them.
Actually FOX News is more like the National Enquirer.
The Enquirer stopped being "weird" twenty years ago, and became a Hollywood gossip magazine, obsessed with the likes of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.
I think it's possible to fret too much over being perceived as "weird" by mainstream society. Mainstream society is, to be perfectly frank, stupid.
I would rather be hanging out with the weirdos than the blithering idiots who believe what Uncle Sam tells them. Old Sam has proven himself down through history to be a con artist. Who but an idiot would believe his propaganda?
But there's a middle ground between being a sheep and flying off into outer space. I frankly cannot take anyone seriously who accepts the official version of what happened on 911. On the other hand, I don't believe we are being sprayed with biological warfare agents in chemtrails, that political dissidents are going to FEMA camps, that the elites are going to depopulate the planet, or that Planet X is going to collide with the Earth in 2012. I don't buy into David Icke's 'lizard theory' either.
The truth, for a real skeptic, is in the middle. Seek out the middle ground.
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Caught Redhandspanked -- Red Flag Raised Professes A Good Point…
…while you fly the standard inverted and at half mast. The good point I tried to discern had to do with tact, finesse, and communicating a good impression. Ironically, you then flame with a demonstration of the ‘poisoning of the well’ you claim to decry.
‘Shut up!’, you explain, we don’t want people to “go back to Fox news.”
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/51118#comment-497702
…. "were you hired to spam us?", you wonder aloud…. “ that’s rich”, you observe. Such insight… I observe… so I prudently tracked your history to glean more wisdom.
What I found most ‘EMBARASSING’ about your post itself was its potential misleading effect upon a casual visitor to DP. As one egregious example: your lumping in the same class, two, very different, prominent posters on this forum -- the ubiquitous, misnamed FreeJesseVentura,[ see http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74481#comment-796112 page 2 post titled: Shameless Sinister Underground Fiend ] and the deservedly well regarded exponent of reason, Republicae, who knows how to make your point without ‘embarrassing’ logic:
“We really are in a "glass house" and believe me there are a great many people interested in the Message of Liberty and Freedom, but as usual, we must use wisdom and prudence in dealing with those who are agnostic [ignorant] in their understanding and in their ability to believe. If we think we are nothing more than an isolated movement then I say to hell with it, but if we are to consider ourselves much more than just a movement, but as a force then we really need to understand that we really are in a fish bowl and there are people looking not only at us, but they are looking TO US not only for answers, but for leadership.”
[ From Republicae’s post: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74961#comment-802981 ]
The bottom line from your post, Mr. Redhankyspanky, was your exhortation to “call these retards out when you see them”.
That makes the most sense.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74554#comment-802297
I like the term
Conspiracy Investigator or Governmental Skeptic
what I've found about so called "conspiracy theories"
Is that most of them come with intelligent proof and logic and these are not things that you will get from the Media. The only reason these things are classified as theories is to devalue their existance. It's simple manipulation devised by those who don't want these things known.
In the case of 911 , I prefer "coincidence theory" It is impossible for so many things to happen so coincidentally that make the whole day appear to be just bad judgement and excuses. It was planned, executed,then covered up ........simple.
Same as The JFK assassination
Same as Northwoods
Same as Monsanto
Same as area 51
Same as Panama
Same as Abu Graib ( people are quicker now to question )
Same as the economic destruction which people are now beginning to understand was planned.
In a Matrix of Lies you have to be able to see the reality in it and then know what and who beneifits from it and most importantly you have to be able to accept that people are that evil.
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Welcome To The Time Machine
May I suggest an appreciation of history and art enables one to better understand the Sureality of Truth revealed as one dis-covers the Matrix of Lies.
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[ Dug from the dust of obscurity further down the thread and reposted here] :
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H.G.Wells – Back To The Future
Republicae, I was fascinated by your reference to the Well’s bibliography. One of my favorite synchronicities was stumbling upon an edition of Well's Outline Of History, first published in 1920 ( my copy was a 1961 printing). The writing was glorious and captivating. The perspective momentous. I now wish to read everything he has written. His very titles set us up for the challenges of this century, as was attempted in the context of his own: ' The Time Machine'; 'When The Sleeper Awakes'; 'Anticipations'; 'The Undying Fire'…
I have only the first volume which ends with Mohammad and Islam. The table of contents for volume II promises a very interesting analysis. I haven't yet located it.
Republicae, I suspect you've had occasion to read both volumes. I would love to hear your review. The highlights from the ancients which Wells depicts, and comments upon, in vol. I, presages salient lessons I imagine well revealed in the chronicles of vol. II?
Let me share this excerpt from H.G.Well’s1939 revision where he prefaces the connectedness which he understood as necessary to appreciating the context of events now further emerging in our own Age:
"There were many reasons to move a writer to attempt a World History in 1918. It was the last, the weariest, most disillusioned year of the first World War… Men felt they had come to a crisis in the world’s affairs. They were too weary and heart-sick to consider complicated possibilities. They were not sure whether they were facing a disaster to civilization or the inauguration of a new phase of human association; they saw things with the simplicity of such flat alternatives, and they clung to hope. There was a copious discussion of possible new arrangements of world politics; of world treaties…, of leagues of nations, leagues of peoples. Everyone was ‘thinking internationally,’ or at least trying to do so. But there was a widespread realization that everywhere the essentials of the huge problems that had been thrust so suddenly and tragically upon the democracies of the world were insufficiently understood. ‘How had these things come about?’ they asked, trying to probe behind the disputes about Sarajevo and the Belgian ‘scrap of paper’ to the broader, remoter causes of things. What were the beginnings of this tragic feud across the Rhine? Why had it come to effect the whole world? Why was Japan, which half a century ago had been a romantic, picturesque country, a legend of flimsy art, a comic-opera land as remote almost as another planet, now patrolling the Mediterranean with great battleships? Why had the Tsardom vanished like a dream? What in truth was Turkey? Why was Constantinople so important in the world? What was an Empire? How had Empires begun? What had converted Germany from a diversity of little states into one aggressive will and power, and put the fear of German energy into half mankind? “
As an aside, I found this remark in the Preface interesting in light of the nature of my own tangential project of connectedness which presently engages my attention here at DP:
"In the criticism of the earlier editions of this Outline, the complaint was frequently repeated that the development of the arts, and particularly of music, was disregarded. The story of man’s achievement of knowledge and social power was given at considerable length, but hardly anything was said of the appearance and extension of his conscious search for beauty…[T]he only way to the realization of imaginative arts is to hear it or see it or read it.”
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" If men could learn from history, what lessons it might teach us! But passion and party blind our eyes, and the light which experience gives is a lantern on the stern which shines only on the waves behind us."
--- Samuel Taylor Coleridge
BTW, IMHO, it is the ‘theorists’ among those who grapple with the lessons of history, who are attempting to shine light upon the ‘conspirators’ ’ designs affecting, and effecting, the trends of human destiny.
Shine on you rough and crazy Diamonds !
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Republicae, tangentially……………Wish You Were Here....
In fact, I don't much doubt that you are with those like H.G.Wells, who I imagine, holding forth the lantern, attempting to shed light, while reaching into the fog 'out there' on the bow... where hard to discover truths, predicted by the past, will first be encountered.
"BTW, IMHO, it is the
"BTW, IMHO, it is the ‘theorists’ among those who grapple with the lessons of history, who are attempting to shine light upon the ‘conspirators’ ’ designs affecting, and effecting, the trends of human destiny." I would ask you "Do you believe that H.G Wells was a theorist or a conspirator ? I would conclude him to be Both. Why you may ask? Afterall He was a New World Order advocate and still continued to sell his books on " Things That Are To Come." What say you?
I Don’t Have An Opinion On That…
… yet.
Other than my familiarity with his works in the popular culture, I had not read any of his books until I encountered Volume I of his Outline Of History. Any comment of his with which I disagreed I simply chalked up as coming from the limitations on his perspective affected by the cloud of his time. ( For example, he spends a lot of time analyzing the migrations of Aryan tribes. I suspect because it was topical at the time he revised in 1939.)
Interesting. I will try to get back to you on that. I’m fascinated.
What An Excellent Discussion...
... and a relatively troll free exchange.
If the issue is Focus... the answer is Folks-You...
...yes, you, the DP folks demonstrate by the determined exchange in this thread (displaying in the process the best that freedom engenders), that you have developed immunities to the focus group/divide and conquer/group think manipulations that the F*ck -You- Frank- Lund types personify. They would steer discussion to conform to designs that do JustUS to Their select topics, all engineered to promote Their game.
Thank you, Republicae, for raising this focal issue and fostering this civil and enlightening discussion. Ironically, I feel the most intelligent retort should be visceral.
Yes, that's the response... 'foc-US.....F*ck -YOU'.
I see this as a healthy reply to the syndrome which is the virtual conspiracy ... details worth studying, but ultimately, mere tangents. But no less tangential than conventional political discussion; all of which should be encouraged to be analyzed here on DP, (but not distracting). CTs are less pernicious, in my opinion, because discernment, doubt and critical thinking are practiced. Politics, on the other hand, promotes conformity and requires propaganda and concerted action.
Health requires exercise, Daily
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http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74553#comment-796982
The way to combat "nutty" threads is to post good ones.
Where did Fedor go?
When people (like me) got tired of bashing him he went elsewhere.
Notice how jshowell has stopped bumping the Z.A. threads and started posting on other topics?
I've decided that I will only do battle with the likes of jshowell or GREEDisBAD on the topics that I find relevant and interesting.
Keep up the good work Republicae.
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Fluoride anyone?
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We all have our cross to bear
You are offended by the ConTheorists, I find them annoying (at times) but my pet peeve is the number of people posting with a pet project (i.e. "gay" rights or Zeitgeist) that has nothing to do w/freedomj coming here and berating everyone who doesn't agree with them. Sometimes I think its pointless to even try to have a civil conversation, but where is there to go that doesn't attract these trolls?
Conspiracy theories and conspiracies...
What is real and what is hype and/or general fear? We have to focus on the goal. I believe the goal is a one world, socialist government owned and operated by a very small class of global elite. If you disagree with me about that, you will clearly disagree with the rest of my hypothesis.
If a "conspiracy theory" contributes to the goal of a tightly controlled one world government, ruled by the elite, then it probably is a conspiracy. If it does not serve the purpose of achieving or maintaining the NWO, it is probably bogus. Look at everything from the viewpoint of the elite and many diverse "conspiracy theories" all seem to be herding the sheep to the same goal.
Examples:
1. The invasion from Mexico, importation of cheap labor, and exportation of jobs - serve the purpose of financially damaging Americans and reducing our standard of living. We cannot have a single class of serfs if some live in cardboard boxes and others in fine houses. Equalization is necessary and it is happening.
2. The war in Iraq and general military intervention around the world - serves a number of purposes. Among those purposes are transfer of wealth from taxpayers to the elite owned military industrial complex, getting the militaries of the western nations accustomed to working together under the UN, and of course, promoting the general level of fear that keeps people willing to cut their governments too much slack.
3. 9-11 - certainly a major promoter of fear that has enabled the executive branch to totally undermine Congress and the people and toss the Bill of Rights out the window. Similar things are happening in other nations. Remember, this is global.
4. Taking of farm land and animals from the people, via pushing of big loans that farmers could not repay back in the seventies, up to taxes and environmental regulations that are squeezing small and medium sized farmers out of business today - the purpose is clear and Idi Amin said it best, "Control the food and you control the people."
5. A nation hooked on drugs, both prescription and illegal drugs, contaminants in food and water - transfer of megabucks to pharmacorp with the bonus side effect that depressed, unhealthy people don't fight back.
6. Government takeover of schools - the quality of education has dropped so badly that most Americans cannot find Chicago on a map of the US, the majority of citizens think that the president can legally declare war and we are importing engineers and scientists from India. Ignorant people are so much easier to manipulate, so much more willing to blindly follow orders.
7. Elitist ownership of the media - what better way to control the people than to tell them what to think, to define the "truth" in any way that suits your purpose, and to silence the opposition by simply ignoring it.
Got a "conspiracy theory" and wonder if it's real? Ask yourself where it fits in to the end goal.
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I did
I hid the flag. It's behind the woodshed. Can we move on now?
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YES, YOU CAN
And Move the Flag and Place It Upside Down In Your FRONT Yard As We ARE A Nation In Distress. Don't You Agree jshowell?
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Movement:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74961#comment-804134
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Now what are you talking about?
I made this comment in jest cause this post called for a witch hunt and that's not what freedom's about. I don't know how Rep can get away with not saying he's for censorship when he wants to exclude people from this site. If he was the owner I wouldn't have a problem, but posing as the owner or trying explain the rules in defense of his own short sighted views is divisive as this thread proves.
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I don't doubt it JS.....was
I don't doubt it JS.....was it not you that sought to censor people who disagreed with you on your Zeitgeist Movement site until you were called on it?
I believe I recall your words, they went something like this: If you post anything that criticizes the Zeitgeist Movement your comments will be deleted. I remember it was something like that, was it not?
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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes
I think I've explained this three times now
Let's see if you read this one:
My blog is my private property. Just like this site is Michael Nystrom's private property. He can (and I can) delete whichever posts are disruptive or don't help along the discussion. Just like Michael I have posted my simple rules here:
http://killfiat.blogspot.com/2008/10/this-blog-continues-thr...
You and I don't own Michael's site. We can appeal to michael directly to censor someone, but posting up who you think should be censored is divisive on a forum. On the daily paul I've never advocated censorship, except those who censor. On my site I can censor whomever I like because it is MY PRIVATE PROPERTY. I make it quite clear my intention is not to discuss the viability of the project, just to make the project happen.
You've been avoiding discussing anything that furthers my discussion on this thread: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74598
If you want to post then you should have some facts, not just your windbaggy opinion.
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NO Worry
I would NEVER even click on your site for your satisfaction. Repubicae is known to have an advantage over you and It is called..."Knowledge." Get Used To It. " Reading Truly Is Fundamental."
You really told me
I feel so bad for having a blogsite now or even giving out information. I promise to stop sending out my mind rays that makes people do whatever I say. Reading is important, I wish some people would do more.
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I appreciate that Katie.
I appreciate that Katie.
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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
http://militantjeffersonian.com
"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes
My comment on your site was
My comment on your site was to point out the apparent irony of you accusing me of attempting to censor your voice, which I was not trying to do, and your own censorship on your site. I was attempting to point out by this thread that the focus of the rEVOLution appears to be diverted here on the DP from actual political and economic activism to something that has rapidly become a distraction with all the CT posts.
http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
http://militantjeffersonian.com
"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes
Once again you're missing my point
I am able to do whatever I want with my personal private property. It's ironic to me that you call yourself a "patriot" yet you want to deny the first amendment rights of people on this forum and you want to deny my own right to protect my private property. You seem to have forgotten what the constitution and the bill of rights were written to protect.
Anytime you can supply any facts to support your coincidence theories post them here: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74598
Cause right now all you're doing is blowing wind and throwing together straw men with silly sting theories. I also notice you have way too many people with factual information on your thread. I'd probably say by now it's just you and camerondehart that have the "truth" on your side.
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Ah, now we have it don't we?
Ah, now we have it don't we? I have not tried to deny anyone anything. I have not asked for censorship but for prudence, there is a great deal of difference. I also asked this because, based upon several people that I have both talked to and corresponded with, were "turned off" by the number of CTs on the DP. If you mistake my concern for the rEVOLution for censorship then that is a problem within yourself. Nor have I tried to deny you your private property rights, how on earth would I do that. I simply pointed out that it is amazing that you, who first sought to censor people on your website would now seek to accuse me of censorship. If you recall, I called you out about your censorship, if you didn't think it was wrong then why did you remove that from your blog and apologize for it?
Once more, you can only provide information, you cannot provide actual evidence otherwise we would not be having this exchange about the nature of a conspiracy theory.
Oh, and it appears that you are the one who is angered over this, not me. I have nothing to prove, that burden is upon you to provide evidential facts that will verify that the theories you adhere to are not theories but actual conspriacies that can be proven.
What gets me is that you, among others who support such theories are so wrapped up in them that anyone, such as myself and others, who shows the slightest bit of dissent over these theories are instantly derided for such dissent.
http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
http://militantjeffersonian.com
"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes