Ventura or Paul...You Decide...

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Who would you throw your support beind.....

In this corner we have RON PAUL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mffpkCH-PJw

and in this corner we have Jesse Ventura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USakdf1kNEU

Can't decide? Lets try again

Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLGMLpA-20

Jesse Ventura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK3SgR_IcZ0&feature=related

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I support: Ron Paul for

I support:

Ron Paul for President (Republican)

Jesse Ventura for President (Libertarian)

Chuck Baldwin for President (Constitution)

Get the message out on multiple fronts.

All three have imperatives:

Dr. Paul needs to declare and start running early. Chuck Baldwin needs to consider a run for political office--anything, even Mayor--in the next two years. Jesse Ventura needs to start dressing and looking the part.

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Ventura.

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Truther?
No, sir!

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

I find you

hypocritical to almost comical status..

you say Ventura but then you bash 9/11 truth activists. Honestly do you look in the mirror and tell yourself how much you hate your political thoughts?

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The positives outweigh the

The positives outweigh the negatives. It's simple math.

You surprise me by not immediately launching into "disinfo shill" this, and "troll" that....you almost seem civil in tone. Should I take this as a good sign?
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Truther?
No, sir!

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

Nope. Yesterday he called me

Nope. Yesterday he called me a disinfo troll.

We Must Overcome Media Bias

This is all really futile unless we have some sort of nation wide ad campaign in place. This is why I said we should start now with educational ads and money bombs for ads. Where are the high tide guys? Some great ads and infomercials educating and then morphing into ads for the candidates when the time comes.

The media bias was our biggest problem, if we don't overcome that we might as well stay home in 4 years.

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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Get Prepared!

I haven't typed this for a while.

The thing we all wrote on digg, on the message boards, on the youtube video comments, on the bathroom stall, on our dollar bills, on signs on overpasses, whatever:
Ron Paul for President 2008

Ron Paul for President 2012

Both.

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Right

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It's not a choice.

I find the whole Paul/Ventura or Paul/Johnson thing extremely nearsighted. It's stupid to put all your eggs in one basket. Trying to settle on or decide who you want to back in 4 years. There's a lot more to it than that. Like the fact that you can potentially have a dozen other people running for the nomination. This dilutes the the total amount of time any single candidate can get air time. If you want the message to get out you need to have voices getting it out. So don't settle because we need to get as many people who are on our side to run. If Paul gets the nomination then sure I can see a Paul/Johnson ticket. But things may not come down that way at all. What if Johnson got the nomination? Or what if Johnson could have got the nomination if you weren't so stuck in your thinking and we lose both as any possibility?

Think back to when the race for the nominations began. Do you think these wannabes like Thompson, Tancredo, Hunter really wanted to be President? They were just there to dilute the field. This way they when they didn't give Paul fair time. It could be easily justifiable to say well we gotta weigh time divided by number of candidates against popularity.

Then when you are the polar opposite everyone else on stage. The one lonely voice... The popular opinion will be decided by the number of your opposition. What was it in Pauls case like 11 to 1?

Seriously, if we're gonna do this we need to match however many corporate candidates they put up. If they put up 5 candidates for the nomination we need to put up 5 for the nomination.

Not only that but the alternate party tickets need to have quality candidates as well. Otherwise you'll end up with plants stifling our progress. Giving no or unworkable back-up plans.

So stop this non-sense with trying to settle on who should run. Even if all of our best potential candidates ran. It still wouldn't be enough. Instead of trying to settle now.

The question shouldn't be who should run, but who else should run also. Otherwise we'll be right back here burying ourselves in the hole we dug this time around.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Good idea - 1 on 1 match up

Good idea - 1 on 1 match up with their Judys & Hucklebees & Mittens!

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* Ron Paul For President *

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Ventura supports Paul as a Republican

Then Paul supports Ventura as an Independent IF Paul doesn't win.

We support them both and get Gary to run as RP's vp.

Well, I think if its the

Well, I think if its the Republican contest, they can't necessarily run as a package, can they?

Independent or Third Party candidates could.

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hmmm?

Paul runs Republican and early announces Gary as vp choice and they work together pretty much from the beginning. Jesse speaks for Paul during the first months when he is not yet a candidate. Then as it becomes obvious that Paul will not be allowed to take the Republican nomination, Jesse files for whatever, Independent I guess, and when Paul finishes his run, he immediately throws his support to Jesse. If vp is allowed to go from one to the other, then Gary goes to Jesse after supporting and campaigning with Paul with the unannounced implication that he will be vp choice. Paul will only run Republican and Jesse won't run Republican. Paul passes the ball back to Jesse at the most opportune time.

I throw my SUPPORT behind

I throw my SUPPORT behind both; however, for reasons Hawkiye just explained, I am more likely to vote for Ventura than Ron Paul.

But I hope Ron Paul runs, because--despite his best efforts to get us to lead ourselves without his help--he IS the leader of this movement and I want him in the public eye.

Also, we are living in the proverbial "interesting times". A miracle in the primaries could happen.

There's the Gandalf Factor to consider--Ron Paul is an older man, but he galvanizes the young. Many of the people who nominated McCain will be in the retirement home four years from now. Whereas the twenty-somethings with the Ron Paul cardboard signs will still be voting.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

Well hopefully we'll get to vote

for Ron in the Republican Primary and if he doesn't get the nomination we can vote for Jesse in the General election.

I would prefer Ron Paul but

I would prefer Ron Paul but I believe Jesse has more name recognition with the sheeple then Ron. And Jesse will run independent where as Ron Won't.

Ron Paul will never get the republican nomination because the fix is in. I would support Jesse if he runs independent.

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

Thank you for your support.

Thank you for your support. ;) I think we'll be more than ready come 2012 to make a big splash.
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Truther?
No, sir!

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

As a governor, or even

As a governor, or even better as a Senator, I would vote for Ventura if I could, in a heartbeat. As a president? NO WAY. He is not diplomatic enough, he would not be the sort of peaceful negotiator I would want, and he truly is much more into violence than I believe my President would be.

How can you assume that crickett

People are much less apt to go to war if they have had bullets fired at them before. There is no better choice and you know it.
Even if RP ran again,there would be too many people that are "gun shy' from the last election. I guarantee I wont max out again. Frankly,after seeing the millions put into the lame ass C4L,I would like my money back from the first time.

How is he "into" violence?

He's anti death-penalty and believes the wars we are in are unconstitutional.

He is always yelling and

He is always yelling and posturing. His ego is phenomenal. That alone scares me. He used to be a professional fighter. He likes to "fire people up". I would love to see him plunked down in the middle of Congress--but never President.

Finally an easy question to answer!!!

RON PAUL!

Jesse Ventrua?...You have to be kidding me

He is a failed football league announcer.....You want to support a man for president who has made the decisions he has made in his life?

Oh wow he was a governor....freakin' Arnold is a governor and his father was a nazi...so much for credibility gained by being a governor.

By the way he was a C- football announcer on his best day.

Unify

I agree, you have to be kidding!!

You have to be kidding.

Debbie

Most elected Presidents are Governors or Senators.

I'm not saying he's my first choice for President, but Jesse has 'legs' to run on.

Since it's extremely unlikely that Ron Paul will run Libertarian, Jesse Ventura could potentially undo some of the mess caused by Bob Barr, and help the party redeem itself, before it goes into the ashbin of history.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

IMO

That is an absolute imperative.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Plus he was a wrestler

Plus he was a wrestler (novelty) and he is viewed as insane by everyone in America.

My younger sister, who has never voted, and

hates politics...would register and vote for Ventura in a New York minute...I strongly suspect there are others like her...

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The average voter is who

The average voter is who Jesse Ventura can reach, what folks think here is skewed toward Paul, which is understandable. Just wait until one of the large news organizations comes out with a survey on the matter.
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Truther?
No, sir!
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http://libertarianwiki.org/

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore