FOURTH OBAMA BC CASE REACHES SUPREME COURT!

A futile attempt at something that will never be allowed to have any bearing.

I liken it to a vicious snarling rottweiler guard dog behind the heavy glass door trying desperately to attack you and rip you to shreds. You know it's there but you're not concerned with it. Hell, if you stare at it long enough you might even think of pressing your face on the glass to make a pig nose and piss it off even more just for a hoot.

It is a wasted effort that will be brushed off like lint on a fine suit.

Looks like the case was denied by Ginsburg nov 26th, if I'm reading this right:

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a469.htm

because of this clause that Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton introduced in a resolution in April of 2008 declaring that Mr. McCain is a natural born citizen:

"Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President";

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511&...

a gem of a site you have located!!!!

I think this lawsuit is better than the Berg lawsuit because the Secretary of State has better standing to command Obama produce birth records that does Berg, an ordinary citizen. But again, this is failing to cut to the heart of the matter by making birth records the issue. The issue is not where he was born, but the citizenship of his father at the time of Obama's birth in 1961.

Still I think the best lawsuit is the Donofrio suit because it does not depend on Obama’s birth records to disqualify him. What disqualifies him is the Natural Born Citizen clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, and this is a result of his father being a British citizen, not as a result of Obama was born. Of course Comrade Ginsburg will reject this Wrotnowski lawsuit but another Justice may do as Thomas did with Donofrio’s suit and refer it to a conference of the full court.

If you want to get a good understanding of why he is not a "natural born citizen" then here is an excellent article:

http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_define...

Also useful is the following:

“In print and widely read by the Framers and the citizens of this land at the time was a writing by Emmerich de Vattel, (1758) entitled “The Laws of Nations”. In Vattel’s work he defined Natural Citizen or Native as:

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

From what I understand, Obama first of all is not a natural born citizen because this requires his father to have been a US citizen at the time of Obama’s birth in 1961, but his father was a British citizen instead.

Obama is not even a US citizen under the 14th amendment because even if he was born in the US, he only meets that requirement of the 14th amendment and not the second requirement of being subject to the jurisdiction of the US. This being “subject to the jurisdiction” requirement is little understood. What it means is not being subject to the jurisdiction of another nation. But Obama was subject to the jurisdiction of Great Britain as a result of the British law in 1961 which made him a British subject/citizen by virtue of being born to a male British citizen.

If he was born outside the US in 1961 he is now an illegal alien.
If he was born in Hawaii, as he claims, then he is at best a citizen by virtue of Congressional Acts in effect in 1961, hence a naturalized citizen. If you don't get your citizenship by being natural born or get it by operation of the 14th amendment, then you can only get it through naturalization (Congressional Acts).

submitted a resolution which declares that Mr. McCain is a natural born American citizen in April 2008.

Why did they not do the same for Mr. Obama at the same time.

Note the clause in bold below that may be an escape clause that allows Obama to be president. It was inserted in the resolution by Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
April 10, 2008
Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
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April 24, 2008
Reported by Mr. LEAHY, without amendment
RESOLUTION
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen' of the United States;
Whereas the term `natural born Citizen', as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country's President;
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen' clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress's own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen';
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved,That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen' under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.

wow, I'm honestly surprised...