This guy did almost 2 years jail time during the course of child support enforcement, for a kid that wasn't even his.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20081206/Child...
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Justice?
There is very little justice in our courts as you will find if you ever have to actually go to court.
END the FED before it ENDS US
Are Walter and Andre brothers?
Both are named Sharpe.
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It doesn't indicate any connection between them in the article.
Harrisburg has over 50,000 people according to my atlas. Who knows? Could be lots of Sharpe's.
If I am understanding this article right, though, it looks like Walter just signed for Andre's letter that was sent to Walter's address by mistake.
If Walter goes by his middle name "Andre" and received mail that way, he might be in the postal system that way, and then when Child Support sent a postal verification out on the real Andre, the father, the Post Office could possibly have returned the verification with Walter's address.
Too bad Walter didn't just contact the Child Support Agency when he first received the letter and tell them then that he was not the person in that letter.
welcome to amerika...impeach
welcome to amerika...impeach these criminals
Am I understanding this right?...
- Walter and Andre are two different people
- Walter signed for Andre's certified letter by accident because his own middle name is Andre but realized the letter was not really for him so he didn't show up for the hearing and paternity was established by default
- Walter petitions for DNA testing and the judge denies that.
- Walter goes into the agency and provides proof he is Walter, not Andre the father, and they still don't let him have DNA testing and on top of that, they enter his info in the system as Andre's?
- The "real" Andre says he has always supported the girl and she even lives with him now.
Am I understanding this story right?
If this whole thing was just a mix-up in identy between Walter and Andre, DNA testing would have been easy to do, should've been done, especially when Walter took in proof he was Walter and not Andre, and the whole thing would have been easily resolved.
So why all the Walter bashing below?
Am I missing something?
You run into that most of the time.. You are assumed Guilty...
And they are only their to convict you.
They are completely arrogant and make no mistakes, they will lie , cheat, and cover just to get a conviction. Justice is dead and a joke in America. It died a long time ago.
He has grounds to sue the Judge personally in a Civil case for monetary damages...
Yes you can sue a Judge..
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Yup
you got it right. Poor guy ended up doing good in spite of being dragged through the system. Obviously the person down below is just glad someone is picking up the tab and not him.
That would be me.
Question:
Do you support the government in providing social services for all the children of dead beat dad's who were there for the sperm donation...but don't have time or money to spend to provide for their children's life??
Just wondering?
So this was just a case of mistaken identity
It could've been easily resolved with the DNA testing, and should've been when Walter took in proof he was not Andre.
I don't think someone below understood that Walter and Andre are not the same person, and that Walter, if I am understanding correctly, had nothing to do with any of these people, and just had a letter sent to his house in error that was intended for some entirely different person, whose first name happened to be Walter's middle name.
Good grief.
The Cuckold Brought It On Himself
Why would a man be shacking up with a woman who has kids by another man? He deserves the trouble he gets, although the state is wrong also.
This is like religious conservatives complaining about gay marriage while permitting divorce within their own churches.
No one deserves to be
No one deserves to be unlawfully incarerated and have his money illegally stolen because he was falsely held liable for a child that is not his. if we don't defend liberty at all levels we will have it at none.
He did nothing illegal what's the matter with you...
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Our court systems
have obviously failed in taking care of a very serious problem in today's society. But then, the courts were never meant to regulate morality.
There are thousands of kids whose fathers don't pay...and social services (that's you and me) get to pay for them. I certainly don't think it is "my" responsibility to pay for another person's child...I didn't have sex with the woman. Perhaps this man was not the father...but he certainly had sex with the mother...and has the child living with him now. Good - at least someone besides the public is being held responsible for the child.
When women and men learn to either form responsible relationships with one another - particularly with children involved - or learn how to use "safe" sex, these problems are going to continue...and it is ridiculous and basically impossible for the "courts" to get all tied up in million of such cases trying to figure out "who screwed who"...
This has to be one of the most irrational posts I have seen on
DP. Sounds like your one of those " as long as its not me" people. Your in luck, very soon it WILL BE YOU. Enjoi it.
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Sounds to me like
a bunch of guys complaining about paying child support.
I supported (and raised) my children. WHY should the government tax me to pay for yours or anyone else's ?
If the child is an orphan...no problem - I'll be glad to help.
This has nothing to do with right or wrong...It has everything to do with being responsible for your actions. Grow Up.
And you enjoy yours too..whatever the heck you are talking about.
Loco
Since you explained you raised your kids and saw that they were fed, offering this as an example of why you endorse the intervention of the State in this context, I assume you would not have accepted such an unnatural responsibility had it not been under threat of imprisonment. So, of course, every child should have the benefit of command family values, conveniently converted to FRN denominations.
May I also assume you will support this Modest Proposal: extend such in loco parentis authority to a minority class of children currently deprived of the benefit of systemic values of interested family court professionals – I speak, of course, of those waifs who wander about inside the valueless homes of intact families, where such nearly superfluous functionaries reside who were formerly known as parents… I say nearly superfluous, because its more apt to refer to such home furnishings in our system as payors, since, in order to be philosophically consistent, this designated function will be assigned to all breeders, monitored, measured and enforced arbitrarily and capriciously to assure conformity to systemic values.
“We can no longer wait to see whether shoeless children begin to wander about the neighborhood. We must preemptively strike under our expanded system to ensure compliance ( which, after all, is paramount among our system’s values) to get those funds flowing, out of which so many people depend… Of course, it matters not where those funds go after we get our cut, but do take comfort that the system’s state-sponsored values are well nurtured, cradle to emancipation ( imagine that)… '
“I’m sure you’ll trust our ‘best interests’ are… I mean ‘best intentions’ … I mean… Oh yeah, that’s right, by the way, did I mention ‘its for the children’… we are …ah, from the government, and … did I mention we’re just here to help…” “yeah, you betcha, we look out for the taxpayer, yes sir-ee.”
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I have no idea
what the heck you are rambling about
ignorant.
Not complaining, just calling you out. It is obvious you live in a bubble and know not of which you speak. Your reasoning IS THE problem.
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How did this article get to
How did this article get to be about you?
"I supported (and raised) My children" - why would you brag about something you are supposed to do?
I got a feeling, you're the type of person that gets the giggles at other people's misfortunes.
If the child needs an organ transplant and the real father is a match, they'll never find him in time.........
What the heck, screw everybody, right?
This article is about supporting one's children..
is it not? Therefore, I am on topic to talk about the support of my own children. People do identify with similar situations.
I don't get the giggles over anything...I'm not the giggling type..sorry.
You did not post this because you were concerned about "the child" in question...so why are you pretending that you are now "caring about the child" ...I stated that I believed the child needed to be taken care of...and obviously so did the man in the story because after going to jail...he currently has the now 18 year old child at his home. I say "Good for him"...all you want to do is complain about it. He's a much better man than most.
No, the child is with Andre the father, not Walter the victim.
Walter is some other guy that got the letter intended for Andre by mistake, if I am understanding this article correctly.
I think you're right
after reading the story again...I was getting Walter Andre and Andre confused.....actually the whole story was a bit "puzzling"...
You can say that again.
I had to re-read parts of it again, too, before I did my post above.
so much for right and wrong
so much for right and wrong then.....If you're having sex, you must be guilty of something? odd
Nothing to do with right or wrong
it has to do with being responsible for your own actions. If one is having sex...one must be aware that there is a possibiliy of producing a child??
Law Enforcement
This (one of many cases) shows how our so-called justice system is not about justice. It is about FORCING the (statutory and case) law onto the peasants and collecting the pseudo-money from us to them.
The System no longer serves us - its creators. But serves those who've learned to manipulate it to get for themselves.
This conflict has been raging since day one of Cain and Abel. It is a conflict between those that serve themselves and those that serve others. Where would a business be if it's only purpose to exist was to serve itself and not its customers? Same for governments....
http://www.svpwiki.com/
Rage Against The Conflict...
...which is the JustUs system....
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/75055#comment-806808
and re-enforce the Higher Law Justice which you make the system, for you, and your posterity.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/46620
It's odd
that the child in question is now 18 and living with the guy who is NOT the father and went to jail...strange happenings in that story.
Good Subject
Truly!
But, I was thinking about another, where the mother has a child and deceives her husband into taking care of a child that which he doesn't know isn't his. Mommy was doin' the hanky-panky while married 'n this 'po ole fella thinks the child is his.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nBOWl4XluuI&feature=related
Any other reason to hate the
Any other reason to hate the machine?
yeah
they'll probably say "we may have made an error and sent you to jail. Jail has costs. You will have to pay for your room and board while you were erroniously in jail"