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BMV new facial recognition rules for license photo

As reported on WISH (indiana) news this morning. If you plan on getting a new driver's license photo, you will not be allowed to smile, wear glasses...as well as other restrictions.

Jay Hermacinski
Edited by Andrew Bonner
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) - When you get a new driver's license at the BMV, there will be no smiling -- at least not in front of the camera. The new facial recognition software used at all BMV branches place smiling among several restrictions.

The security software is designed to protect customers from identity fraud. For it to work optimally, customers are told no smiling, no glasses, no hats, no scarves and no hair in the face.

"It looks at the permanent physical features of the face and it compares that against a database to see what kind of a match there is," said BMV Spokesman Dennis Rosebrough. "You want to make sure you have a good, clean, crisp clear view of the permanent physical features."

BMV officials said Indiana is one of 22 states that use the recognition software. The program can measure the distance between eyes, width of a nose, length of the jaw line. Together, the measurements create a unique face print. rest at link and feel free to leave comments here: ..... http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/indiana/New_BMV_rules_require...

Found this interesting article from 2002 on Facial Recognition Technology (FRT) http://www.reason.com/news/show/28550.html

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This is timely info for me---

I need to renew (or not) my license soon, I complained to my state Senator about the "digital watermark" (they don't call it a chip, I found out---how convenient---) and he is supposed to be getting back to me with the info soon. I know it will have facial recognition software, and that I will be required to bring my birth certificate, SSN, marriage license, etc. to prove I am me and why my name is changed from the birth certificate.


The states will not have the dough to put the Real Id into effect. I understand it is very expensive. But then, again, the FED will probably use the bailout money to give to the states to comply. After all, they just have to take it from us.

Last year in one of the

Last year in one of the democratic debates, I heard some of the candidates say that the moment they take office as President, they would repeal all of President Bush's violations of our liberties. I can't remember who said it, and I can't remember which debate. Not that it probably matters. It seems every candidate but Ron Paul was all about dodging the issue or out and out lying. Remember Obama and FISA?

I am convinced that Bush One lost reelection because of the "Read My Lips, No New Taxes." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5DZBFbMdjI

So if Obama were to have said that he would repeal all of President Bush's executive orders and we had it on tape, then he too may lose his reelection bid in 2012.

Perhaps someone else remembers which debate I am talking about.



May 11th is the date the gov't gave the states

to comply to their ID--I'll renew mine in 2010--microwave time
oh crap, now I'll have to go buy a microwave....LOL
only states not going along with the fed gov--yet
THATS it 5 states WTH

Starting May 11, unless your home state agrees to comply with the federal Real ID Act or unless it asks for an extension, you should expect problems going through security at airports. Click a state below to see what that state has told us about whether or not its ID cards will meet Real ID requirements.

Want Government out of your life??
get off your asses and do something about it.
Hiding will solve nothing.


★★★thank you RON PAUL★★★

Don't buy a microwave

Convenience stores often have them. Ha!

HA !

That is so much cheaper than my idea...

I was thinking about having some professional makeup done...I think they can produce apparent bone structure. It could be fun.



Stick your new passport in the microwave for 5 seconds....

If they put a RFID chip in your Drivers License do the same thing with that...

These chips can be accessed by a somone with a portable scanner...It's very easy to do.

We are going to refuse this new technology...refuse one world government. Just keep refusing!!!!


Beat the Chip- I Like it!

I just found this. Seriously- Check this site out....

Obama opposes Real ID?

"Obama appears more liberal than Clinton, flatly opposing the Real ID Act while she's less forceful, saying it needs to be reviewed. Both engage in a careful lapse in memory: unlike Paul, Clinton and Obama voted for Real ID as part of a broader "Global War on Terror" spending bill three years ago before turning around and criticizing it."

(Just talking to myself- ;-))

I'm seriously p*$$eds off.

South Carolina sounds like a nice place to live.....

South Carolina has enacted legislation saying the state "shall not participate in the implementation of the federal Real ID Act." Beth Parks, spokeswoman for the South Carolina Department of Motor Vehicles, told us: "Yes, it is true that South Carolina is a non-participatory state for Real ID. The South Carolina legislature is the only entity that can change that position. We are comparing the new regulations to the proposed regulations and our previous cost estimates. Once we have completed our review, we will provide information to South Carolina lawmakers and answer any questions they may have."

I visit Mexico every year.

I visit Mexico every year. If I destroy the chip in my passport, will the border guard notice?

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Starting at approximately the 6 min 10 sec mark.......

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'Show Me The Money!'

Regarding Palin: I believe we are watching in real time the rise of the third party, which will be controlled by the powers that be from its' inception.

Next Scam: "Cash For Cash"


It worked!!!!

Tea Party

Since I can not go to Boston on December 16th, http://www.bostonteaparty08.com/ I will have my own little tea party here at home. I'm going to make myself a pot of tea and destroy the chip in my new drivers license. It's the least I can do.

Never forget: Chips can be

Never forget: Chips can be shattered with a good whack with a hammer. If you need to test, thump on your credit card then try to use "tap and go" feature. It should be effectively disabled.





What is this tap and go

What is this tap and go feature? I found out that my license has a chip. I have read where I can also put the license in the microwave oven and it will ruin the chip.

Dumb question. How can I

Dumb question. How can I tell if my new license has a chip in it?

everyone should go out and get a fake goatee

wear it when you go to get your drivers license renewed.

No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in - Bill Hicks

How about giving yourself a double chin?

Pull your head back into your neck...it would change your jaw line....oh crap....I have a triple chin!

Iowa drivers license

A couple of weeks ago I had my drivers license renewed. For the first time ever they had me remove my glasses. Not only that, this time the license showed a tiny little photo at the corner of the license along with the larger photo.

Since I have never heard or read anything about the Real ID coming to Iowa, I was wondering if the state snook this in without anyone noticing.

Thanks for the post. I have been meaning to ask any Iowans if they had noticed this.

Check your state here.

"Yes, Iowa will be implementing Real ID and we will be requesting the first extension."
--Dena Gray-Fisher, spokeswoman, Iowa Department of Transportation


Funny thing is, ya'll will bitch until the day it comes

But then you'll get one anyway. hell, you'll probably trade them a gun or two for it if they tell you to.

I take it you drive without

I take it you drive without a license. I have thought about it, but don't want to pay the government any more of my money with fines. So December 16th I will zap my license and passport in the microwave. I guess that's the best I can do right now.

Big Brother

Getting their photos for identification purposes.. So they can put a camera on you as you walk into a building or down the street for that matter. Knowing who you are at all times. Now with the chip that is being put into it they will know it is you

Not for stopping identity theft. The government does not care to protect your identity for you. Only for them.

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