Everyone on the DP needs to learn Martial Arts Because...

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Everyone of us true patriots on need to learn martial arts.

1. Because It does a great job of making you healthy. There is not a muscle or a system it does not work out. The monks in china still use it for their health and well they are about the healthest people in the world. Also I saw a vidio a while back of a 75 year old man just taking it to a much younger man becouse guess what the martial arts keeped his vitality that much longer, another prime example of this is Chuck Norris.

2. If the goverment does cross a line to quickly and wake the american people up to a revolution, then we will be ready to fight!
Martial arts is a very mental thing requiring focus and dedication and most importantly discipline. If it does come down to a revolution those who have been training to fight will immedietly be able too. And I know what you are thinking "if it comes to a fight I have my gun and I know how to shoot" I agree that is important but so is stratigy and martial arts teaches that in spades, so if nothing less you will learn critical thinking that is very important.

3. Eventually the goverment will start arresting some of us true patriots as terrorist and put us in prison with a bunch of guys who will try to kill us to make themselves look better or badder or whatever. Can you defend yourself from them without a gun?

4. The best soilders already do it, and we need to be better than them! Most of the soilders in the military know how to shoot a gun and do their job but the special forces all pretty much have to know how to kill with thier bare hands or feet or teeth or whatever. It's to our advantage to know some of their stratigy first.

5. It will make you better than the common soilder out there.

6. It cant hurt anything. If for some reason we are completly wrong and our goverment doesnt try to start wipeing us out then what did it hurt that you learned martial arts, many valueble life lessons can be learned in a karate class.

7. It will expose you to new people to convert to the cause

Picking out a martial arts school. There are a whole lot of schools out there that promises to give you a black belt in x amount of weeks or months, the point of this is not to go get a black belt but learn how to fight. For example I know a guy who used to be the unarmed combat specialist on his army ranger unit. He told me that he never got a black belt that he was about two years away from it and even so he was sad to say that he had killed people with his hands. He did not go into detail and if you saw that sad look on his face you would never want him to. So remember this is not about getting black belt this is about learning how to fight!

1. Go somewhere that focuses on techniche. Make dead well sure you go to a school that makes sure your feet are in the right position and your hands are the correct way and you are attacking the right target, in other words go somewhere that is real picky on everything you do. Finding a school like this can be difficult I personally have to drive 45 minites from my house one way across three counties to get to my school but they focus on the techniques so it is worth it!

2. Go somewhere that when you spar you actually hit the other person! I know this may be hard to believe but now there are a whole lot of karate schools that have you fight where you are not allowed to touch the other person ever. I can understand white belts doing this but come on by the second or third belt you should be required to spar becouse sparring teaches you how to practically use your fighting style and it also teaches you not to flinch in a fight. But as number one said make sure that during sparring they focus on technique.

3. Go somewhere where they can explain why you do stuff. For example where I am at now to go to my next belt level you have to do a jump spinning inside crescent kick, and I am telling you right now in a real fight I am not actually going to use that technique. But the reason why we learn jump spin kicks is becouse if we fall or get our feet knocked out from under us we are already in the habit of kicking and torqueing in the air so that even in a fall I can fight!

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Check this out.

Check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ3-Hi-kMNo

It's Wing Tsun also Wing Chun It's a great base style. What you see it the video is basically a pummeling. The striking form is very structured. Learning this structured framing and center-line theory of Wing Tsun I guarantee will improve whatever you may already know about striking.

Kicking, I'm bias, but the Muay Thai kick is the most useful, most adaptable and devastating kick in all of martial arts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL5Cy33RWLo Here you see a Muay Thai fighter take apart the legs of a TKD fighter.

Something like 90% of all altercations end up on the ground. There are things you can learn that cover the area in between but first you must address what happens when you get there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFCwdBEOS1Q Jujitsu is much like being a sculptor taking away little bits a pieces of your opponent until they've nothing left.

I just found this little gem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5LDdcfAM2s This is Joe Simonet I met him years ago while under instruction of a friend and one time training partner, then they parted ways and Greg had to hang it up to fight cancer and I've never been the same since. If I were to get back into martial arts I would have to move to eastern Washington dedicate my life to martial arts. Now I may not see this in my future. But if you already live in eastern Washington and you want to learn the good shit. I will vouch for Joe Simonet as a truly certifiable badass. He brings together a culmination of mainly Silat and Wing Chun but also other styles as well. He covers a lot of practical weapons training. If you want to learn knife fighting Joe is your man.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

That tkd fighter sucked!

Can I fight in and make money off of it. The whole time he looked like he was point sparring and he never really recoiled any of his kicks. We have white belts with the same problem at my school

That Thai fighter has

That Thai fighter has probably already had 50 professional fights under his belt.

It takes a lot of time to do all that recoiling when your tired. lol I snuck into a TKD tourney once. All my fights looked about the same as that one. After it became abundantly clear that I was not a TKD guy they started coming after me with each new fighter being coached by the last. My last fight there were coaches, trainers, and fighters from four different schools in the corner across from me, plotting to keep me from winning their title. My legs were tired at this point. I didn't really understand why they elevate their feet between rounds and took it's toll. I ended the match with a front thrust kick that folded this kid in half and sent him sliding across the flour and they still awarded him the win. But whatever.

Don't take this the wrong way if you're a TKD fighter. But IMHO I think you may have been lied to. Many styles throughout the ages have been reinterpreted and taught this new false style as to not give away the real secrets of the true art form. There are several very common TKD attacks that to me, don't feel like attacking combos, but rather retreating. I found that changing some of the footwork and using essentially the same TKD combo in retreat while being charged actually surprised more people than when used as traditionally taught.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Try to dropkick this:

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I can jump high, but 23 feet up is pushing it.

You'd probably be better buying one of there:
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Sure the price will set you back some, but it's great on tanks and women will really appreciate the peace message it delivers.

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I got ninja skills.....

bow staff skills, computer skills.........

Learning how to spell might

Learning how to spell might help too.

how about learning another language

I know 3+ a bit of two others.

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Learn sign language, you'll be glad you did.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

i already know Judo

Ju don't know if i have a gun, ju don't know if i have a knife....

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I agree, good martial arts training is valuable.

However, learn to use a knife and gun. It takes less time. A knife and some training makes one and instant black belt.
The ability to defend yourself against an armed opponent is a near impossibility, even for a lifelong expert. Martial arts techniques only work in those circumstances where the armed opponent is VERY close. Dodging bullets is for the movies.

I have to respectfully disagree about going to a gym where there is full contact. This can be extremely dangerous, even deadly. People have died even with full head, hand, chest and foot protection on. The martial arts is a painful and difficult endeavor, if its done correctly. There is a fine line that must be drawn and no face contact is a valuable rule.

Gyms where there is full contact also are notorious for having instructors that kick their students asses unnecessarily. Martial arts schools are totally unregulated and the qualifications of the instructors can be hard to verify.

Any decent martial arts school will focus on technique, this is the core principle of martial arts. Sacrifice in the dojo makes techniques clean, fast and accurate.

Good luck but martial arts is something that takes a long time to learn and be effective. Everyone's physical abilities are different, and the martial arts may not work for everyone when it comes to defending themselves.
As for styles I prefer wrestling and Jiu jitsu, along with Tae Kwon do and kung fu for striking.
If you have a child and want them to learn to defend themselves, get them into a wrestling program. Very few fights last long on the feet. This type of martial arts training is proving itself in the world of Mixed Martial Arts.

Most people have bad aim............

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

I respectfully disagree

I respectfully disagree with your statement that very few fights last long on the feet. In MMA becouse of certain rules it is much more advantages to wrestle than do traditional martial arts. For instance many times in the sport they will rush head long into the opponet exposing the back of thier head to many types of strikes but the rules (correctly) say you can not hit an opponet in the back of the head, therefore the guy attacking in this manner has the advantage. I also know a guy who used to be involved in MMA, he told me that he was in 33 sanctioned fights, but when a man came at him head first trying to tackle him, he kneed the guy in the face breaking the other guys neck. Hasnt fought a day since. MMA should take the correct route and punish fighters for this kind of foolheardy tackling! I have been told by several MMA trained people that no kick I can do could stop (no mention of elbow strike, I mean it is just asking for it) it but too many of these people are bieng trained for the sport and it is giving them a false sense of security.

Another thing in the sport of MMA if you do a vertabra (still cant spell) lock on somebody you automatically lose, they need to switch the rule to you automatically win because once you have a vertabra lock the fight is over.

Also I was told the only strikes allowed in the sport of MMA all have to be done with the knuckle. No ridge hand no thank you, that really does limit the traditional martial artist in that type of fight.

Finnally full contact sparring should be part of the school (well above the belt full contact sparring at least) but only when they are making a full and complete effort to teach control. I am taught that just becouse you can hit somebody doesnt mean that you have to hit them as hard as you can unless you are in a situation where you must defend yourself.

MMA matches are not fights.

Striking can be done with a hammer fist too. By ridge hand do you mean a knife hand?
Head contact in sparring is a problem. If it is allowed in a gym, there will be injuries especially with the junior ranks and lower skilled people. Maybe for a tournament now and again, but not for regular training.
I still stand by the statement that wrestling/grappling is the most essential and useful martial art. It is also the oldest sport. If one can grapple and strike, it is a more lethal combo than either skill alone.
These MMA fighters have no more a false sense of security that pure kick/punchers would have.
Wrestling can be learned for free in school. What other martial art is taught on that scale in the schools?
My father is a martial arts instructor(7th Dan ITF Tae Kwon Do, 8th Dan in Judo.) He has run a martial arts school for most of his life (Tae Kwon Do). He started the first martial arts club in a high school in the State of Illinois when he was a teacher (day job). It has been his opinion that one must mix martial art styles to find techniques and strategies for the individual's strengths. Unless you are VERY skilled in your art, a wrestler is going to take you apart (then choke you out). Unless you run fast.
Most MMA champs have wrestling experience in college and they kick ass because they are tough, not because MMA has too many rules. They are wrestlers first and pick up the striking later. I've never seen it the other way around, learning wrestling last.

Ridge hand

I am now going to try to describe a ridge hand and hope I get the meaning across.
If you point all of your fingers straight and stiffen your hand then put your thumb across your palm horizantally you should have a little muscle bulge out between the botem joint on your thumb and the bottem joint on your trigger finger.
This is the only strike I have had to really condition my hand for and also you have to get real good with your aim because if you miss you can break a bone real easy but the advantages of a good ridge hand out way the risk becouse the ridge hand is very very versitile and when applied correctly it is stronger than a punch (if you have your muscel condition that is).

I have found when dealing with wrestlers that the self defence moves I use work very well against them. But I have only had the pleasure of (not sure what word I should use here. sparring, wrestling?) wrestling a couple and when I pulled one of myself defence moves they had no idea how to cope, and also they often leave their fingers and wrist in vulnerable potitions. Not a smart move when you fight me, I am trained to immeditly take you down if I can get your thumb pinky or wrist. Ha ha ha. It has been very humorous fighting some of these wrestling guys becouse it is clear that they have been trained to fight by the rules when what I know about wrestling and grapling are pure self defence stuff.

Also since everybody else is advertising their school I will advertise mine. I go to Southern Tang Soo Do, on tobacco rd, in augusta GA, we currently have three black belt instructors Mr. Valintine is the owner and main instuctor he is trained in several arts but only has a black belt in Tang Soo Do, He is a third degree black and I believe he is going for his fourth soon, He is a bad dude and I would never want to fight him for real, mostly when we spar he just blocksand jams attacks, he is trying to teach us to fight and move at the same time and go offline. Mr. Wagner is our second instuctor he has a second degree black in Tang Soo Do and a first degree black in a something else but I dont remember what, when I spar him it is real odd becouse he only uses basic stuff but does it in ways that you do not expect. Finnally we have John Everheart he is the new black belt in the group. He is just 16 or is it 17 I cant remember but he just earned his black belt and now is instructing the beginner class mostly.

We do have head contact sparring but head and hand and feet protection is always required and we are not supposed to hit in the face but on the forehead where their is protection, we are also allowed to hit in the temple but only becouse there is protection there too. If you saw how thick the gloves and head gear were you would not be worried. Plus this forces us to learn controll, and in my four years there I have o nly suffered one nose bleed, and I should have blocked the ridge hand that hit me but well when you spar and fight things happen.

Actually it is legal to knee

Actually it is legal to knee a guy in the face in the cage if he is trying to take you down. Also open hand strikes ridge hands etc. are legal etc.

basic rules don't in MMA sanctioned fighting are:

no eye gouges
no fish hooking
no groin shots
no kicks or stomps to the head of a downed opponent, elsewhere is ok, but elbows are legal
No small joint manipulation like to the fingers most other the joint locks are ok
No downward elbow strikes to the back of the neck head and spine as those are very dangerous
No strikes to the back of the head

MMA rules are for sanctioned fighting to protect fighters they do not apply in the street and it is not difficult for a trained fighter to adjust because he now has more tools he can utilize and he is used to all the movements it would take to attack him already.

I have seen it time and gain in street fights a guy is getting his ass kicked standing so what does he do he clinches up at the least or tries to tackle, anything to stop the asswhoopin he is getting.

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no kicks or stomps to the head of a downed opponent,

Wanderlei Silva hates that rule.

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

I did not say it was wasnt legal

I did not say it wasnt legal to knee I said that when he kneed his opponit it broke his opponets neck, becouse his opponet used a stupid bad move that they tolerate in MMA. Since he felt bad about breaking the guys neck he quit fighting. I probably should have clairfied that sorry for the confussion.

In the the good ole days of

In the the good ole days of Pride..

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

For some reason

For some reason it is hard for people to move while they fight. In everybody I know that was learning to fight, including myself, one of the hardest thing for them to learn is to move while they fight. Most people fight, then move, then fight, but putting both together takes a surprising amount of practice.

On top of that hitting the other guy several times appears to take a long time to learn, because to fight correctly you must be moving when you strike.

The hardest thing to learn though in my experience is what is called going off line that is stepping forward and sideways toward an attack so that you can strike an opponent in the oppening that they made.

Lots of mental stuff like that is why I love martial arts!

Practice Mui Thai that will

Practice Mui Thai that will keep you moving. lateral moment from boxing will teach you to not stand in front of your opponent and let him hit you. And yes combinations instead of trading hey makers is important ;-)

As Ali used to say float like a butterfly and sting like a bee, stick and move. Most people back straight up.

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

sorry, i got a bad back

here's my strategy.
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"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Funny you should bring that up ...

I had that same thought on my mind all day long!

hap ki do/tang soo do

I do it. Kinda like ballet.

Hap ki do is some cool stuff. Can't play with it or you will break somebodys something.

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Dude, if you fixed your typo

Dude, if you fixed your typo ("Becouse") it would help with the sincerity of this post.

Just a helpful hint ; )

Sorry cant spell

Sorry I am really bad at spelling and my hand writting is so much worse. In school I was actually not allowed to write more than half a page on anything becouse it gave the teachers headaches

Well, the content wasn't

Well, the content wasn't horribly bad, just that glaring mistake with "because."

My brother had problems like you. He finally got fed up and decided to do something about it, so he put down the remote control and started reading every free minute he got. He started reading easy stuff at first like Elmore Leonard type stuff and now, 4 years later, he's reading Philosophy. His reading, writing, vocabulary, and his conversations have improved so much that it's truly quite remarkable.

Reading does not just improve your reading, believe me.

Just some helpful advice....

Krav maga

Krav maga is probalby the best all around defense system for someone that wants to get up and running fast. It assumes no rules and handles weapons. Brazillian Jiu Jitsu is a better one-on-one system.

I have advanced belts in krav maga, brazillian jiu jitsu, and tae kwon do. I've also done short stints in think like aikido, hap ki do, kum do, and wrestling. Thinking you can defend yourself is much more dangerous than not knowing how to defend yourself. There are almost no scenarios where running away (if possible) isn't the right thing to do.

Hand-to-hand systems don't have much value in the current state of combat, because technology a long way in the last few decades. Most martial arts are little more than ballet.

All I can say is...

If you haven't already....you better start now, and I mean now. When the crap hits the fan, and you are one on one with whoever is trying to take your property, your life, and your way of life, you all better be prepared.

Assuming something like would happen

and 30 armed solider are converging on your house....knowing hand-to-hand combat will do little more than get you killed