UPDATE: This Movement is dying, and oh yeah your grammar ain't so good

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UPDATE: I would like to thank everyone for letting me vent, before my frustration caused my brain and heart to implode. I have stated to many people who left the DP.."don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya"..and I too was about to become one of those people, only I would disappear into the darkness to not be seen nor heard from again. I have so much to do, so much to prepare for, and only so much fight left in my body. My thought was to save that fight and focus it on self-preservation...my family that is.

I would like to say that a good 90% understand that my thoughts and comments aren't about "grammar police" in particular, and my comments aren't about topics not related to Ron Paul...my comments and thoughts are completely and totally focused on the way we treat each other as human beings. You don't like or agree with a subject, you can walk away, you can comment respectfully, or you can spew personal attacks on someone for not being your clone. I know which road the "establishment" takes, I just want us to be different.

Time and time again I read comments stating that unless we spell everything correctly, and all "appear" to have English degrees, then our movement is lost because we appear ignorant. I disagree, and I'll take the masses with heart over the few with spelling hang-ups all day long. My issue is the people who log on here not because they think we are grammar perfectionist, but because we love freedom, and yet they learn that we won't allow even ourselves to be free from personal attacks and judgment. How many of those people turn around and walk out the door? I'm sure the numbers are higher than those leaving because we aren't spelling bee winners.

No matter what happens in life I will always be part of your movement, and your future.... but I will choose to hang out and discuss issues with like-minded people who can be respectful and polite even when there are differences of opinion. I am just afraid that the DP is on the way to leaving my "short list" of places I am comfortable hanging out in. And if it is on my mind, then I know it is on the minds of others, and we either correct it, or we scatter but not necessarily shrink.

Thanks again for letting me say what I feel and being receptive to my overall point. We are brothers and sisters...but we don't have to act like brats. :O)

ORIGINAL POST:

I just got through reading the latest report card from the "grammar police", and it doesn't look good folks. If we can't accept people for being themselves, how are we ever going to stay focused on the big prize?

I just can't believe that this topic is up here again, and of course all the children of English teachers have to show up and take their shot at treating people the way their parents treated them. On a worse note....it's one crappy thing to bitch and moan because people don't live up to your anal retentive state...it's another to come here and use a "grammar check" request to take out personal attacks on our brothers and sisters, who are right beside us in this limping and wounded movement for freedom.

This movement is wounded because we are no different than the "establishment" republicrats.... We are Americans who want our freedoms and know the big picture...but just like red and blue divides those thieves, we have our own problem, which ironically is the inability to let people be free...free to be themselves and think they way they wish on certain issues...we are not meant to all be friggin robot clones..we are meant to be Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheist, grammar perfectionist, sloppy writers, sharp as a knife, or just a rock. We should be free to support or not support any issue we like, believe the official version of 9/11, disbelieve the official version, like shots, hate shots, love rfid, hate rfid, (I know I know just had to throw that in there, we all agree on that one..haha), love the masonic lodge and what it stands for, feel that the mason ic lodge leadership is up to no good, want our childrens teeth prints taken, or believe that it is a horrible thing, Read the KJV, Don't read the KJV, believe in creation, don't believe in creation....the list goes on and on as we all know.

The point is...you get 100000 sheep in a huge building, and ask them if they want their liberties, they want smaller government, they want fairer taxes or even no taxes. If they would like to have money made of gold and silver, or at least backed by something tangible and not controlled by private banks.... I bet 90 percent smile, because it is an impossible dream, but then raise their hands.

How would we then feel? I personally would feel that given our talents, our knowledge, and our honesty, that we could change forever those sheep and our nation.

You get one a-hole to stand up and start talking about whether your a democrat or republican, and the whole conversation would start to unravel because the argument would then become personal. By the end of the day you have red on one side, blue on the other, green outside smoking a joint, and independents just feeling left out of the conversation.

Where did the goals of liberty, freedom, sound money, sound government and less taxes go? Why were we and are we now sidetracked so often?

And most importantly, who's fault is it? Is it my fault for being a Christian (however denouncing man made "religion"), who happens to think that 9/11 is at best "A mystery" the government could clarify if it could, I believe hyperinflation is a definite possibility, I believe that God created the world, and I believe that the entire Bible wouldn't be enough room for Him to explain to us lowly humans exactly step by step how He did it, and oh yeah...sometimes I use the wrong word like there and their..and sometimes I forget to show or not show possession in my grammar.

The point is, I am who I am, and I'm here right beside you just as 99.9% of the people here, and I am not your clone, nor do I necessarily treat each post as a graded essay. I should be free to state my views, post on my views, and then have a civil discussion with those who agree, and those who disagree. Those who disagree should be respectful of other peoples views, and the personal attacks should be non-existent under any circumstances. We should be different than the "establishment". That is after all what this movement is about, is it not?

I am not claiming innocence on these charges, as I have made and retaliated violently on several occasions, and for that I apologize.

In my vision for the future, we are a more open and educated people because of our tolerances for our fellow man. Our only goal is liberty and freedom, and as long as we all share that goal, we are brothers and sisters. I am still a Republican according to my voter card..but if "Our" candidate came out of the "Jolly Friggin Green Giant" party, I would work my ass off and my voter card would have JFGG by my name.

In my honest opinion, since Ron Paul didn't do as well as we had hoped, people have just turned their focus to more personal issues, rather than the big prize.

Lets pretend that all those people in the room are us, and Ron Paul talked to us about sound money, smaller government, less to no taxes, freedom, and liberty. Would your face light up? Would you raise your hand? But most importantly, would you go to the other side of the room if someone stated that they were a Christian, not a Christian, Athiest, 9/11 critic, or not....

Even a liberty loving Sheep can't wake a Republicrat sheep.

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No matter what differences we have, the movement is well and alive, indeed the RevolUTION is moving at full steam!

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Spelling Bee Masters
Focused on wrong prize today
Helps only one self.

The movement is alive and well down here!

We're entering places we never even thought of... 2009 will be a good year for the revolution!

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Mike
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Hey Fire team!

Are you aware of the Southern National Congress?
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/75759

Here is a link for scheduling radio interviews !
SNC Chairman Thomas Moore is available for scheduling radio appearances or other interviews: chairman@southernnationalcongress.org.

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Also this project could use some air time! Alex Jones interviewed them recently will try to find that link for you if interested!

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/74999#comment-804105

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I disagree with the

I disagree with the statement that the movement is dying... actually it's very much alive and well... Folks are going in different directions... fighting for the Constitution and the Freedoms that make this country great.

the funny thing is...

that I disagree with that also... :O) It's hard for me to put into words.."the movement isn't "living" as well as it could be"...

When I heard about Ron Paul, it was a breath of fresh air, I had hope, and then reality hit. Then it was..."if only we had 4 years to prepare...if only I hadn't just found out about his message...what then?"...

I'm just afraid that our bickering and FOCUSING (not discussing) on personal issues and beliefs, will lead to us having to make up more excuses the next time around.

So not not dying....but definitely not living to our full potential.

Whoa

for a minute there, I thought you said "the movement was dying and my gramma ain't doing so good" :)

LOL

hey if it led to a smile, you can see whatever it is you want to see... :O)

I thought

he was going to say "and your gramma wears army boots."

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

As long as gramma doesn't

As long as gramma doesn't get ran over by a reindeer.....lol

So funny

Made me wanna slap my gramma!

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

Thank's for the early

Thank's for the early morning smile ;0
Do not give into evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.

Do not give into evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.

Simple

Forum Comments = Casual conversation = no need for grammer checks - We are here together, in an informal way....no sweat.

Video Productions, Articles, etc for showing to people - for the purposes of education.....well; the effort should really be made.

Simple as that.

If you aint any good at english, so what! Dont take it personally lol - Just get someone who is, to double check ANY production before posting to YouTube or elsewhere.

Its called having standards. By doing so, you wont allow people to get in with an "easy pop", about something as simple as spelling or grammar which completely detracts from getting the message over.

Viva la Vida - Long Live the Revolution!

Dale

Thanks for the post, we humans have the attention span of a nat(sp?). We loose heart and flea from the intended purpose. I have hope, it is good to see others staying focused.

"There are only two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword, the other is by debt." - John Adams

Good post and I have noticed

Good post and I have noticed people doing that. Some people are just immature and can not understand that some people are different. I do respect Your views and to be honest I would agree with most of them except I feel the government is a little more evil than what You believe. Even though We can't see eye to eye on one issue We can still stand with the other ones that really matter. So I salute You on Your excellent post because some one needs to read it. I have been noticing a lot of divisive posts lately that can do nothing but turn people away. I have also noticed a lot of psychic threads which will do the same thing. I can not believe Ive been seeing that crap too on a political forum.

Ignore the grammar police,

Ignore the grammar police, there are a lot of people on the net that use this as their only way of posting. These types have a NEED to post something, anything, and normally its about how bad someone's grammar is. On the net , you have to not give into their tactics. Also, to the person saying how they have seen so many messy houses at meetups.. its likely because they are ACTUALLY out there working on the nations problems and not just their own. Get over yourself.

Who

"Ignore the grammar police, there are a lot of people on the net that use this as their only way of posting."

There are a lot of people on the net WHO use this as their only way of posting. N'yuck, yuck.

I have an engineering degree from a fairly prestigious

private university, but when I read documents from 150-200 years ago, I feel like crying. They had such a command of the language and could express themselves eloquently. I can hardly understand them.

My English is horrible.

I know many engineers

This is not uncommon, but poor spelling is not always a good indicator of intelligence. Many geniuses have been poor spellers and speakers.
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Nice qoute :)

Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.

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actually

i would appreciate people correcting me when i fail to be correct.

nothing wrong with grammar check.
we look like idiots if we can't spell....

oh yeah.....and one more thing....

i've noticed that many of the RON PAUL supporters keep a crappy house.
yeah......i've been to seven of my own meetup group members' houses and i'd rather not return.

if we can't be clean and use correct language - WHATEVER language we choose......the hill becomes much steeper.

clean your houses people. and get a Fing dictionary.

I guess you were being serious

but I got a good laugh out of that 'cleanliness' comment. I've seen countless houses where the denizens live like farm animals. It's amazing to behold.
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ya cinco, go do something

ya cinco, go do something useful instead of attacking people because their house isn't clean enough for YOU! get a life.

and by the way

"And most importantly, who's fault is it?" actually it's "whose" fault is it.

JUST KIDDING!

I've also learned we've got the vegans vs. hunter contingent here and the pro-life vs. pro-choice and the pro-911 truth vs. the anti-conspiracy theorists, and the rap vs. rock music, the pro-Barr vs. Barr-is-Satan, so it really has to become a case of looking at the similarities, not the differences.

Yes it was a real kick in the stomach when the *results* of the primaries looked suspiciously rigged against Ron Paul, but did we really expect differently? Now we just have to move on and be even more diligent and vigilant.

Thanks for posting.

And oh, I would be the green one standing outside smoking an all natural cigarette and eating the tofu salad.

hmmm

if that was a left handed "all natural" cig...I'd be right there with you..but if you don't mind I'm going to be eating a bloody longhorn steak...you can keep the pencil eraser food. :O)

This movement is only taken

This movement is only taken seriously when we don't look like uneducated idiots when delivering the message.

you

must hang out with some pretty anal people... where I am from freedom and liberty are king...no matter how you spell it.

Its not dying!! The tent is getting larger!

Check this out!

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/75759

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"Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave fast enough to be a new source of energy independence."~ samthurston

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd