From Ohio General Assembly

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Ohio call for a constitutional convention for proposing amendments

BE IT RESOLVED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF OHIO:

WHEREAS, With each passing year, this nation becomes more deeply in debt as its expenditures exceed available revenues; and

WHEREAS, Fiscal prudence requires that certain steps be taken to control the growth of the budget and eliminate excessive deficits; and

WHEREAS, Article V of the United States Constitution requires the United States Congress to call a constitutional convention upon the application of two-thirds of the legislatures of the several states for the purpose of proposing amendments to the United States Constitution; now therefore be it

RESOLVED, That the General Assembly of the State of Ohio, pursuant to Article V of the United States Constitution, hereby applies to the Congress to call a constitutional convention for the purpose of proposing to the states for ratification, an amendment to the United States Constitution containing the following provisions:

First, the amendment shall require the President to submit and the Congress to adopt only balanced budgets for all federal programs and agencies, except in times of war.

Second, the amendment shall grant the President the authority to disapprove any item or items in any bill presented by the Congress to the President in addition to the President's authority to disapprove entire bills pursuant to Article I, Section 7 of the United States Constitution.

Third, the amendment shall require the President to submit and the Congress to adopt budgets for all federal programs and agencies on a biennial rather than annual basis; and be it further

RESOLVED, That this application constitutes a continuing application in accordance with Article V of the United States Constitution until at least two-thirds of the legislatures of the several states have made application for a constitutional convention or the Congress has proposed an amendment to the United States Constitution equivalent to the amendment proposed in this resolution; and be it further

RESOLVED, That, if the convention called by the Congress is not limited in subject to the amendment proposed in this resolution, any delegates, representatives, or participants from the State of Ohio asked to participate in the convention are permitted to debate and vote only on the proposed amendment contained within this resolution or an equivalent amendment; and be it further

RESOLVED, That if two-thirds of the legislatures of the several states make application to the Congress to call a constitutional convention, the State of Ohio requests that such a convention be called not later than six months after the Congress receives the thirty-fourth application from a state legislature; and be it further

RESOLVED, That the Clerk of the House of Representatives transmit duly authenticated copies of this resolution to the Speaker and Clerk of the United States House of Representatives, the President Pro Tempore and Secretary of the United States Senate, the members of the Ohio Congressional delegation, the presiding officer of each house of each state legislature in the United States, and the news media of Ohio.
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Looking at the 1st,2nd and 3rd parts of this amendment.The only one that is troubling is the 2nd.That's giving more power to the president.He already has to much.I don't like any of these,but that 2nd one bothers me.

As stated above,-any delegates,representatives, or participants from the State of Ohio asked to participate in the convention are permitted to debate and vote only on the proposed amendment contained within this resolution or an equivalent amendment- So if other things come up,Ohio will not participate.

I'm not sure what the other states are proposing.

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A Con Con may actually gut our Constitution as we know it.

Changing the Constitution by way of a Constitutional Convention may actually be fraught with danger and we may end up with something ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than it's stated purpose. There is only one example in the history of the United States where a Constitutional Convention was convened and that was in 1787. There were stringent limits placed on the delegates as to what could be done to amend the Articles of the Confederation. What actually happened is the Articles of Confederation ended up being trashed altogether and was replaced with our current Constitution. We got lucky that time. What are the odds of us getting something better than our current Constitution if the same occurs in our current political climate? We could be headed for a train wreck to put it politely. ANYTHING that is adopted at a Constitutional Convention would be legal and the Congress and the Supreme Court would be powerless to do anything about it. Instead of getting a balanced budget we could end up with a coup. You better read this 5-part article that includes videos:

http://www.principledpolicy.com/?p=507

-Bloatedtoad

-Bloatedtoad

well said.

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Hearings next week

http://www.peacechicken.com/2008/12/10/update-on-ohios-hjr-8...

This is not over.

We need to inform the citizens of Ohio! and their legislature!

This is important

*bump*

Bye-bye Bill O'Rights

Way to go, O-Hi-Oh.

I have mixed feelings about a Con Con

A lot of people are worried about what changes would be made. I share that worry but is it really something we need to be concerned about? Consider that anything that could change in a Con Con can also be changed now by individual amendments. They still have to have 2/3 of Congress and 3/4ths of the States to ratify it. So how much could really be done?

My only worry about it is that there will be very good changes mixed with very bad changes and it will be presented in an all or none change. That is when our reps will justify voting for it because the good outweighed the bad.

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The Pelosi gang would have FULL control over it

There is no way it could turn out good for us.

We do not want this period

We do not want this period with the current gang of criminals in control of the congress.

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I bet they will...

..."So if other things come up, Ohio will not participate." Really, do you think they will check their egos and agendas at the door?

On February 21, 1787, the Confederation Congress adopted a resolution authorizing the convention but limited its mandate to revision of the Articles. Several states already had named their delegates and, citing the Annapolis Convention's report, authorized them to take any measures "to render the constitution of government adequate to the exigencies of the Union." The convention thus began with an inconsistent mandate.

The convention consisted of states' governors, chief justices, attorneys general, and many delegates to the Confederation Congress, as well as several distinguished Americans who had agreed to come out of retirement to participate one last time in American politics. Although they followed a wide range of callings--lawyers, physicians, soldiers, clergymen, merchants, and farmers--most of the delegates were well-to-do members of their states' elite; one historian called them the well-bred, well-fed, well-wed, and well-read. They fell into several groups:
http://www.answers.com/topic/constitutional-convention

I understand the concern. I

I understand the concern.
I also think the people should hold them to this amendment.They would also need 3/4 37 states for it to pass.I just wanted to post a actual document from the horses mouth.

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Yes, Jeff..

I totally appreciate that you posted it! I was not trying to be snotty, and it sorta came across that...sorry. I just keep asking myself, how many times in our history has there been a Constitutional Convention and what came out of it....WHY NOW? and how many of US even get the potential of what this could mean? as someone under another thread just said, "this could be the shot heard around the world." But how many will even pay attention? Everything else right now is a distraction...a veil, in my opinion. So here is the question...which state (do you think) falls in line next?

please accept my sincere apology
laura

No problem I have no idea

No problem
I have no idea what state would be next.I don't even know what states have agreed to it,other than Ohio.
Each of us could check their states general assembly.It took about 10 minutes to find.I had to look through the journals day by day,and then did a scroogle search on the bills number.

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For what is a man? What has he got?If not himself,then he has naught.To say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels.The record shows I took the blows,and did it my

"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820

List of states * Balanced Budget* application for con con

*Partial list of states that have called for amendment~Balanced Budget~ *

Alabama, 1979
Alaska, 1982
Arizona, 1977, 1979
Arkansas 1975, 1979
Delaware 1976
Florida 1979
Georgia 1976
Idaho 1963,1979
Indiana 1957, 1976, 1979
Iowa 1979
Kansas 1978
Maryland 1977, 1979
Mississippi 1975
Missouri 1983
Nebraska 1979
Nevada 1980
New Hampshire 1979
New Mexico 1979
North Carolina 1979
North Dakota 1975
Oklahoma 1978
Oregon 1979
Pennsylvania 1979
South Carolina 1976, 1978
South Dakota 1979
Tennessee 1977
Texas 1979
Utah 1979
VIRGINIA 1973, 1975, 1976, 1979
* i lifted these from a pdf. here http://www.article5.org/Convention%20Applications--State%20B... *from a grassroots supporting a con con...so, verification....?
*Ohio* 2008
i must have missed a few