Democracy is not Freedom

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Here is Ron Paul's stance on democracy: that it is not freedom. Below is an article that explains this and points out major flaws.

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Here is the link to the original article: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul233.html

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This is great and so true.

This is great and so true. People tend to like democracy because they are told it allows them to control government, but this is a fiction. You don't *control* government. Nobody you know *controls* government. Even if you were to magically (and I say magically because it is virtually impossible) somehow get your ideal law passed, you don't write the law and you don't enforce the law. When people are brought before judges in violation of your law, it isn't you that gets to decide the meaning of your law.

Democracy is not a system where people control the government.. it's a system where people control each other.

The Myth of Good Government

Since government has a monopoly over interpreting the law (including the Constitution), it will interpret broadly its delegated powers, and it will interpret narrowly our natural rights. That's why the Constitution is dead.

The solution? Never give any one institution a monopoly over security services such as law, courts or police.

There is nothing that government does, which society needs done, that cannot be done far better by the free market.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/myth-of-good-govt.html

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Killed-Constitution-American-Liber...

The real solution is Decentralization.

I agree with you in principle, but: To strike at the root: The US should have been broken up into numerous new countries--based on the individual states--years ago.

The longer you maintain an Empire, the more militaristic and repressive it will become. People decrying the police state often compare the US to Nazi Germany, but the civilization America most closely resembles, on sober analysis, is ancient Rome. It began as a Republic, with representative government, became a prosperous and decadent state, and finally deevolved into imperial despotism.

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They tried that. A despotic

They tried that. A despotic tyrant by the name of Abraham Lincoln put an end to that idea.

The Law

I am reminded of my recent reading of The Law by Bastiat. The socialists envision a utopian 'democracy' as their ideal system, appointing the ordinary man as the supreme 'ruler' of his destiny through universal suffrage. However, after the elections are over, the ordinary man is returned to his original state of universal bondage in which his elected supermen 'leaders' decide how he can and cannot exercise his individual liberty and what private property he can and cannot keep.

'Democracy' turns into tyranny only by a different name.

But of course, we don't even have 'democratic' elections in this country, since the integrity of those elections have long since been corrupted by black box voting.

American 'democracy' is only a mass-delusion of the hypnotized Obama zombies and "Republican" Bad Guys..

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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi

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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

Non-aggression axiom

I recommend this 13 min. podcast about the non-aggression axiom.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2008-08-0...

Non-Aggression Axiom: No one has the right to initiate or threaten force or fraud against another person or their property.

All governments violate this axiom because they acquire their income by physical coercion known as taxation, and they obtain a forced monopoly of the provision of defense services (police and courts).

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard133.html

Voting

When you vote, you are consenting to being ruled by the guy you didn't vote for, when your guy loses.

Excellent podcast -
http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2008-11-1...

"Democracy is the worship of

"Democracy is the worship of jackals by jackasses." ~ H. L. Mencken

Precisely

Democracy is majority rule or mob rule. Under the current two party paradigm which is both sides of a corrupt coin all it would take is one majority of Americans ie Demopublicans or Republicrats to turn our country into a communistic socialistic fascist state. Wait a minute isn't that where our country is headed now? LOL

A true Constitutional Republic is as free as any person can get with government at the helm.

Definition of government:

1. the political direction and control exercised over the actions of the members, citizens, or inhabitants of communities, societies, and states; direction of the affairs of a state, community, etc.; political administration: Government is necessary to the existence of civilized society.
2. the form or system of rule by which a state, community, etc., is governed: monarchical government; episcopal government.
3. the governing body of persons in a state, community, etc.; administration.
4. a branch or service of the supreme authority of a state or nation, taken as representing the whole: a dam built by the government.
5. (in some parliamentary systems, as that of the United Kingdom)
a. the particular group of persons forming the cabinet at any given time: The Prime Minister has formed a new government.
b. the parliament along with the cabinet: The government has fallen.
6. direction; control; management; rule: the government of one's conduct.
7. a district governed; province.

Definition of freedom:

1. the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint: He won his freedom after a retrial.
2. exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.
3. the power to determine action without restraint.
4. political or national independence.
5. personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery: a slave who bought his freedom.
6. exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually fol. by from): freedom from fear.
7. the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc.
8. ease or facility of movement or action: to enjoy the freedom of living in the country.
9. frankness of manner or speech.
10. general exemption or immunity: freedom from taxation.
11. the absence of ceremony or reserve.
12. a liberty taken.
13. a particular immunity or privilege enjoyed, as by a city or corporation: freedom to levy taxes.
14. civil liberty, as opposed to subjection to an arbitrary or despotic government.
15. the right to enjoy all the privileges or special rights of citizenship, membership, etc., in a community or the like.
16. the right to frequent, enjoy, or use at will: to have the freedom of a friend's library.

Government means to control and to rule over citizens. Freedom means to be exempt from external control and regulations. Therefore it is impossible to be free and have true Freedom under any form of governance. Freedom and government in the same sentence or any form of government followed by the word freedom is an oxymoron. And people insult me for being anarchist. The irony irony irony irony irony irony irony ironyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...lol

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Agreed

A friend who ran for the U.S. Senate here in Delaware coined democracy nicely:

"The tyranny of the majority."

Democracy is just fine when issues are to be decided that have NO impact on a person's objectively defined individual rights.

Exactly

Either is consumerism, or any other isms. A lot of people at the DP express their desire for Freedom however I wonder if they really understand the concept. The comforts of modern life that you may have to do without if you really want freedom are really never discussed.

You mean I can't have freedom and a Wii a the same time?

You can take my Nintendo from my cold, dead hands!

Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

You could

have the Wii but I can't guarantee the electricity to run it.

That's what hamsters are for.

My "Habitrail" generator is ready to go and I've got barrels full of "Happy Hampster" cheesy-nuggets.

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Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it. John Adams

Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

Could you

put a you tube video up of how that works?

Here you go, stupidwrthlsboy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXRH50fvHWA

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Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it. John Adams

Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

Now thats................

entertainment!!!!!!!

I agree

We are told from a young age that America is a free country and take for granted that it will always be. Many people also believe that America is a democracy and that it is unpatriotic to dislike it.

The majority

The majority of Americans have been "brainwashed" to think that, as you said, America is a democracy. You see democratic slogans everywhere: Ralph Nader, Obama, etc. Most would call those who speak against it something along the lines of a dictator or someone else who wants to take away freedom. They just don't know what a republic is.