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MARTIAL LAW IS COMING FOR REAL!!
In case you don't believe that it is coming, review this info, then prepare for the best survival stategies.
A website that goes through the evidence. Remember March 13th secret Congressional Meeting? The topic was coming martial law.
http://polidics.com/ethics/congress-addresses-the-eminent-ma...
could this be...
...disinformation?
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Which part?
Do you mean the part about be nice and nonconfrontational? The part about no guns? The part about there is nothing we can do now? I wasn't crazy about any of that. I'd rather read someone saying there is a plan in the works, go get wealthy. I hate the idea of give up, roll over and shut up.
I'm trying to use my analytical mind. Here goes...
FEMA camps/coffins
Military now on active duty in the U.S.
Economy imploding
Unemployment rising
States going bankrupt
Constitutonal meltdown
Countries going bankrupt
Companies going bankrupt
People going bankrupt
Multi-national civil unrest
Secret Congressioal meeting in March,2008
Martial seems to to be coming possibly.
Is there some disimformation somewhere.
Threads like these need to
Threads like these need to stay bumped!! It's always to be safe than sorry.
I agree with those that say
I agree with those that say martial law would be a logistical nightmare to enforce. They could maybe control a few cities at best. However outright declaration is not their style and never has been. Technically we are already under martial law and emergency powers with the approval of congress and using EO's etc.
The article while a bit dated makes some interesting points. One of them was popping a nuke on our soil. This is plausible and it is their style with false flags. This could allow martial law for a time as it could galvanize the sheep to comply to help fight the created phantom common enemy they would pin it on. However they still could only concentrate on a few cities and it would only last till people got hungry and military and LE started worrying about their own families then it would be utter chaos. But of course perhaps that is what they want also...
The Idea of all the foreign troops imposing martial law is pretty unlikely since they know it would mean instant revolution. Blue helmets make nice targets.
The point is to prepare now for what ever may come
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken
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I read it through...
If you believe this threat is present, one of the primary items that any martial law force will likely be after is 'real money' - gold and precious metals. I think it is naive to buy your metals through any dealer who is recording your address and personal info. Customer lists can be seized and used for search and confiscation. Buy with cash from a local dealer only. My best to us all.
What about a slower, more gradual erosion of Liberty?
It doesn't have to happen overnight. They don't have to call it "martial law". Bit-by-bit, inch-by-inch, your liberties disappear.
Drip, drip, drip.
“Education is dangerous - Every educated person is a future enemy”
“Of course people don’t want war. Why should a poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best thing he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?”
-Hermann Goering
We've been in that phase for 10-12 years
at some point it has to transition to full spectrum control.
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martial law would be easy for the Gov.
Most would accept it and go on, The One thing I talk about that I get a rise out of people, is the Implantable Chip. When that comes to a head I think that is when people are really gonna fight. I can make the most laid back person red in the face just hinting about the mark. People are ready to fight when it comes to this topic. (We'll Soon See)
Maybe the people you know
but I think it will be the opposite. I think people will beg to be next. My sister's neighbor is a veterinarian and speaks all over the country, travels a lot, and he has one. Says it is great for airports. No problemo there. Then there is the Florida family that asked to be first so that her children could never be lost or abducted.
It will be the next rage in body modification and gadgetry
Just look at how many people have multiple piercings/tats and are obsessed with their cell phones.
It will be like the best of both worlds for the sheeple.
They already are talking about it updating your location and activity on myspace/blogs automatically for you. Look at that nutcase twitter site.
It will be like that without all the effort.
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Glen Beck -- An Exposed Enemy:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90198
Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/86643
Ask a nightclubber if she'll have the chip implanted.
In the some of hippest venues its already happened! They get scanned as they enter the club and whenever they pay for drinks (no joke).
“Education is dangerous - Every educated person is a future enemy”
“Of course people don’t want war. Why should a poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best thing he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?”
-Hermann Goering
Okay, so I just downloaded and read the PDF
Most of it seems like its just trying to convince you martial law is possible which is annoying.
Anyways, the end just tells you the basics of survival like food, water, oil, etc. On top of that it basically tells you to be a submissive b*tch to any authority (especially young troops) and wait for the 'time to pass'.
Great.
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Glen Beck -- An Exposed Enemy:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90198
Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/86643
You guys are not thinking 'sheeple'
99+% of people will accept martial law, just like they accepted illegal immigration, the Iraq War, Afghan War, 9/11, New Orleans, bailouts, Obama, etc.
Any single one of these would logically create strife if carried out from one individual against another, but against the moronic masses it means basically nothing.
Not only will most people NOT fight, but they will also side with the propaganda put out by the Gov, media, etc.
Martial Law in the USA would be a breeze compared to Iraq because most of the people here think they are part of the gov (and with a huge gov, many of them do have gov jobs).
There is no Al Sadr or serious militias in the USA.
All we have is lame duck Ron Paul who spends most of his time preaching to the choir. Ron Paul is great, but he would fall apart if Martial Law was declared and do nothing.
I mean could you see Ron Paul suddenly going all violent and attacking the gov after martial law?
Ron Paul is even afraid to say 9/11 was an inside job and goes along with dismissing some of his followers as kooks (even though he hints otherwise in some interviews).
I just see him sitting in Congress with a powerless/defeated look and giving a speech like, "Well, now that we really do have martial law we're even closer to the soviets and a nationalistic society bla, bla, bla."
Mean while America is conquered and whatever resistance there was will vaporize or diminish to near nothing (just like after 9/11 and the Oklahoma bombing).
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Glen Beck -- An Exposed Enemy:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90198
Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/86643
We have had 300,000+ troops in Iraq for 7 years
Iraq is the size of Texas and they don't know what a constitution is. We have a lot of guns and 15 times the real estate. We also have friends, neighbors and family who comprise the law enforcement and military personnel who would be imposing this martial law fantasy on us.
Stating that martial law is coming is not an argument. It is a statement.
How would martial law be accomplished?
I say that it is another "threat" used to keep people scared and obedient. We have 43 cops in our town...we have 20,000 citizens. Let's say half 43 cops need to sleep 7 hours a night. Pretty damn thin numbers there....
All of the cops have to agree to this nightmare.
I have not seen a convincing argument for it yet.
Yes, eliminate children and elderly from the ratio.
Also eliminate the 100's of thousands of soldiers and police who would not go along with installing a dictatorship...ok? Call me crazy? All the military I know are patriots, not fascists.
Let the debate rage.....I say martial law goes the way of the killer bees, Y2K and global warming.
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Amen!! Whatever happened to developing practical solutions to the problems facing this country?
All I read about here is martial law, rfid chips, illuminati, etc, etc.
Can anyone recommend a more serious site?
sure you and your 2 week
sure you and your 2 week membership should go to redstate.com !
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“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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And thanks for the
And thanks for the suggestion. Definitely going to find somewhere with sane people.
No wonder your efforts at outreach are futile, you are a bunch of fascists who ridicule anyone who questions your personal beliefs. I like Ron Paul quite a bit but if you are any indication of his supporters in general, he's bound for failure.
Oh well, the search for answers continues. Later asshole.
For people who claim to love
For people who claim to love liberty, you are not a very democratic group. So, my opinion counts for nothing because I am new to the site? My position is not valid because I just recently signed up?
I see an awful lot of talk here about wonderful principles but damn little behavior or treatment of people that models them.
Don't like what I have to say about your claims, blow me!
Martial law is a logistical nightmare
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I just wonder how martial law could ever be enforced.
Consider this,
US Military = 2,475,967
Police = 663,535
total: 3,139,502
"Incorporated Places" (cities) = 19,355
If the USM and police are evenly distributed, that leaves only 162 USM/police to each city. That will not be enough.
Obviously that would not be a great plan. Say they take over the east coast first. The population of the east coast is around 150,000,000. This is a 50 to 1 ratio of 'martial law' to citizens. A pretty tough order to fill in keeping martial law.
So now the west coast. 55,000,000 people live there. 18 to 1 odds. This could be a possibility. But would require all of the nations police and military to pull off.
Central US approx 100,000,000 people. 33 to 1 odds combined with the rural-ness is another huge hurdle to cover.
This is not taking into account the many military and police that will defect to avoid killing their own families.
I am not trying to suggest that several large cities could not be taken over for them to inflect martial law upon citizens. What I am trying to put forth is the idea that our military can cover all the US at the same time is not feasible.
Iraq is approx 169,234 square miles, and we all know what a success that is...
Just the lower 48 is 3,119,884 square miles.
It will be a blood bath.
And not in their favor.
how many foreign troops
how many foreign troops under UN jurisdiction?
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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That number is hard to determine.
Since it is up to each country to deploy as many as they see fit. I would estimate the range to be anywhere from 80,000 to 100,000. If all countries went along with it and put almost all of their soldiers forth that they did to iraq (99083 went into iraq).
I think that if foreign soldiers (U.N.) ever hit our beaches it would be the 'shot heard around the world'. A sort of good reason to have a majority of citizens being extremely stupid and 'patriotic'.
Yes but
those citizens are not organized nor aggressive. Eliminate children and elderly (mostly) and many women.
And
And only a fraction of the US army is trained for combat. A large percentage is logistical. They are no more prepared for house to house action in this country than the average High School class. And of the fraction of the US Army that IS combat-ready, only a fraction of them would actually fire on their countrymen. And some fraction would actually switch sides. So what fraction of the US Armed forces are ready, willing, and able to enforce martial law on an unwilling US population? I can't say, but it is certainly less than 50% and probably more like 10%.
As for UN troops, I am not impressed. The only army in the world that would have a chance of subduing an aroused American people is the US Army.
ok
But the problem still remains. Only 3 million military and that is if we relocate them from around the world to here. Our military might will be dashed upon the rocks around the world.
Personally, I do not see anyone ever declaring martial law because of the backlash politically. World politics is what i'm speaking of. We would lose so much power by having to withdraw our troops from around the world just to contain 20 large cities. This might just trigger the invasion of another country trying to gain off our division. Very messy.
If the military uses excessive force to control citizens, 'ordinary citizens' might just revolt. I imagine that just the gangs of most large metropolitan cities will give the military a lot of problems trying to balance the keeping of order vs not using excessive force.
I still think my point still stands. Not enough force to cover such a large area. Especially with the resentment toward the government that will breed and fester within unaffected cities.
I've never understood the
I've never understood the whole "hide the food" idea.
If they are confiscating food from individuals under martial law, they will be doing so as part of a civil war where people take potshots at them on every streetcorner.
Ditto for confiscating guns...same situation. Although hiding guns at least has a certain logic to it--it's fairly practical to do, I suppose.
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What good will your guns do
What good will your guns do you if they're buried or hidden? If you have to hide them it's time to use them. It could be prudent to hide some extras in case you get caught off guard nd can bug out or escape, but then again if not you will be in violation and they know now you are a potential resistor so off to fema camp you g.
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken
Get Prepared!
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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!
Get Prepared!