This is Not Your Founding Fathers' America
The following email arrived this morning from a trusted source:
On Friday Dec 12, US history was made once again. The executive branch of the US government stepped in and overruled the US Senate's decision in regarding the auto industry.
The President overruled the Senate? Be clear, this was not a veto, this was a decision to take action even though the Senate said no to a similar action.
How can the President overrule the Senate? By the powers created May 9, 2007 through the Executive Order, "National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive."
This decision was made to temporarily save the auto industry. Should so much power reside in one branch of US government? I wonder how many individuals around the world understood the ramifications of an using that Executive Order to overrule the legislative branch of government, if the executive branch disagreed with the decisions made by those legislators during the preceding night?
This is certainly not the America of our forefathers.
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The President can do this
The President can do this because he is the CEO of a private corporation which was created in 1871 with the District of Columbia Organic Act and is now owned by the IMF through the Bretton Woods Agreement.
So, was this done? I've seen/heard nothing about it on the MSM.
Any accurate links to this story anywhere? As far as I heard the deal was dead and that was that.
In my heart I know they will sneak it through after they all get their bribe money, regardless of right or wrong but I heard nothing of Bush 'over-riding' the senate in this matter.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
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When the Decider decides...
...it is thus decided. All Hail KGB and Lord Obama.
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
But michael ? the powers that control
have obviously nothing to do with the governing bodies anymore do they ?
It's all just fluff. there are no laws anymore. no decency. nothing to control spending or to make laws. It's all up in the air. who knows what's what anymore.
The supreme court won't even uphold the constitution against Obama's birth ?
It's a nightmare.
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~
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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !
Take this nonsense off the front page
This isn't even true, there's no sources for this. Seriously take this nonsence off the front page and stop spreading lies. Now if I wake up tomorrow and this is all over the news, I will apologize, until then take it down.
It's Michael's site.
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And, it has been on the news.
Fetch.
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
source?
source?
maybe here?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/White-House-assessing-options-...
Maybe not...
That's just speculation. Nothing has happened at all....it's almost as if you WANT this to come true..
the founders were Deists.
to understand our country, you have to use reason. to understand reason, this might help.
http://moderndeism.com/html/understanding_reason.html
" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
Albert Einstien
Knowledge is power, action is love.
I'm interested in the study of Deism
Why does it seem you have to look back in time to see what the future holds. The money interests have been here for a long time using every form of deciet. For instance in the bible Jesus I believe encountered the money changers in a temple and he threw them out. Common sense will tell you that money isn't everything.
"It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong" - Voltaire
" Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. " - George Washington
In order for those with foreign currency to buy a sacrificial
animal, they had to exchange their money. The money changers provided an essential service at that time. Also, they were not in the Holy of Holies (Kodesh Kodashim), they were outside. Jesus, if he did exist, had no right to do what he did. People were freely transacting business.
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
Jesus wasn't so upset about the fact they were buying /selling.
HE was upset over the 1) extreme exchange rate - taking advantage of the situation the foreign born Jews were put in, (since the Jews were commanded not to charge interest to a countryman), and
2) they were "keeping shop" in the court of the Gentiles, which was the only place the Gentiles were permitted to worship. (note what he said when he drove them out- He mentions the fact that the temple was to be a place of prayer for all the nations, and their actions making it a "den of theives" thus dealing with offense to both the Jews from other countries and the prevention of the Gentiles' gaining access to their designated place of worship.
3) These particular money changers had a MONOPOLY on the temple market, no other competition was allowed, the person coming to offer sacrifices couldn't even bring their own 'spotless lamb' or other clean animal, because of the corruption that existed. It was fascism, pure and simple.....
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
But it was where they were transacting business
that upset Jesus, not that they were doing it.
No, it was both!
They were crooks who had a monopoly on the temple coins and even the locals had to buy from them. Plus, they were conducting the swindle on the temple grounds.
Now Jesus, who is God, had every right to throw them out. In fact, I've often thought that He saw the devastation of civilizations down through the ages brought about by the succeeding generations of moneychangers, and this is what upset Him so,
Another interesting story about the tax is when Peter was cornered about whether he and his Master pay the temple tax. Peter said they did. Later, Christ, after correcting Peter, told him to throw a line into the sea where he would catch a fish with a coin in its mouth ... the exact amount of the temple tax for both of them ... to take it and pay the tax. So Christ had no intention of ever dealing with the shysters.
I can't give you chapter and verse, so go fish if you want to read the story firsthand.
Keep reading and learning, Bishop89;
you're well on your way to thinking critically. Thumbs up to you!
He's right
I'm a strong believer in restoring the Constitutional Republic however; no matter how you present facts to some people they will not accept them. What is in vogue is materialism and lack of common sense, as long as people have their: cars with rims, big screen TVs, and fast food Democracy(de facto government) will be America in essence.
"It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong" - Voltaire
" Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. " - George Washington
Maybe they need reminded
Maybe they need reminded that if they don't pay their tributes to government,all those materials will be taken.With a possibility of going to jail if they don't pay the "king".
Whose land is it again?
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It is the duty of every good citizen to use all the opportunities which occur to him for preserving documents relating to the history of our country.-Thomas Jefferson 1823
"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820
I admire that quote by Voltaire
What a time that was and continues to this very day.
www.TeamLaw.net Literally a
www.TeamLaw.net Literally a whole different entity as compared to the vision and doing of the founders.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
Another interesting site
http://www.notmygovernment.us/home.php
I BEG TO DIFFER
Unfortunately, in order to run any organization, especially a republic properly, morality must be highly valued by a majority of the people.
The founding fathers, in their not-so-infinite wisdom, created a society in which the government ruled over religion by enshrining religious indifferentism. Religious indifferentism promoted irreligion and irreligion promoted immorality and immorality produces exactly what we've got: stupid people who have no purpose in life except to shop.
Besides, think for a minute: as soon as people know they can take money from one group and give it to themselves LEGALLY, that's exactly what they do. It's called VOTING YOUR POCKETBOOK. No honest statesman stands a chance against a politician who offers people something for nothing. So, the system will always produce gaggles of sleazy politicians for every occasional statesman that slips in.
This may not be the way our myopic founders envisioned America would turn out when they were signing on the dotted line, but more than a few of them, before they died, realized they let a ravenous tiger loose in the world.
Remember, when the founders were alive, they were dealing with a population that tended to have high moral standards, were typically Christian, were self-reliant and nearly self-sufficient. Look at how the system has corrupted a majority of the people!
I, for one, am sick of founder worship. Most of them are probably in hell along with the vast majority of our illustrious past presidents, congressmen, justices, etc.
If a person believes in heaven and hell, he should want to live under a system of rules that helps him to attain heaven. Dying with the "most toys" is a sure sign of eternal damnation.
I agree that most Americans now seem
morally indifferent, but I fail to see how you tie that sad fact to lack of religion. Not only were many Christians at the founding of this nation racists and even slaveowners; they often were eager to persecute people of differing or no religion. Witchhunting was practiced, with sordid tortures to produce "confessions," and sadistic executions. Merciless confiscation of land and extermination of native populations had already begun. Women were denied many rights, of property, vote, etc.
Imagining that Christian nations are more high-minded than others just doesn't stand the reality of historic facts.
In general people were far more self-reliant and therefore used more common sense than many Americans do today. And the founding fathers were educated, often privately, in logic and philosophy; and with their taste of freedom in the new land, they created wonderful documents, especially the Articles of Conferation and the Declaration of Independence. Religion had little to do it.
4GodinVA, I beg to differ with you!
Though I agree with you that early Americans seemed to have a greater sense of morality, justice, and God-mindedness, I am disappointed and offended by your sad and unfounded accusations of our founding fathers, here is a quote from what you wrote:
"The founding fathers, in their not-so-infinite wisdom, created a society in which the government ruled over religion by enshrining religious indifferentism. Religious indifferentism promoted irreligion and irreligion promoted immorality and immorality produces exactly what we've got: stupid people who have no purpose in life except to shop."
"I, for one, am sick of founder worship. Most of them are probably in hell along with the vast majority of our illustrious past presidents, congressmen, justices, etc."
If I am correct, you personally blame our founders for securing our independence from the Pope, Kings and Bankers on 'secular' grounds!
You seem to have this mentality that our country ought to have been stated 'This Is a 'Christian' country'!!!!!!
Well, it is not a 'Christian' country, even though, its strict intention and letter of the law will be found to be 'in harmony' with the teachings of Jesus, the fully realized, 'Christed' human being, and others like him who attempted to teach Divine Law!
The passionate and age old 'dream' or 'intention' of the founding of this country during its crisis with King George, the Rothschilds bankers, and the pope, was to create a sanctuary to guarantee and protect the sovereignty and property rights of each human individuals free from all the myriad forms of tyranny whose cruel dispensations could be tracked to those three forms of unified 'despots'.
Prior to the founding of the United States of America, people would always be subject to the whims of the 'sovereign' King; their lives, property and labors. It was always in the bankers interest to instigate wars so both sides would need to 'borrow' money at expensive interest, which continually hurt the people's need to provide for their families.
And of course, we shouldn't forget the church and its insatiable need for power over the people through ridiculous fears and the selling of 'indulgences' to those wealthy enough to buy forgiveness. This, in its essence was a vast form of corruption, never encouraging people to 'take responsibility' for their thoughts and acts, but instead always guaranteeing people were 'sinners' therefore guaranteeing complicity of the people once the church did something 'immoral' and 'unethical', people would rarely accuse the church of wrongdoing.
Here in America, and no where else in the world, could you be guaranteed your sovereignty, being subject to no one except your own soul or conscience so long as you lived, worked and did business within the laws of our Constitution and the Constitution of each State and within the by-laws of each city and county in the country.
In our country, you are free to believe what you like and live your life according to your own ways and ideas, thereby increasing the chances that each individual could be free to live out their divine destinies!
Prior to our founding, very few persons lived free enough to fulfill their destinies. This was a 'privilege' granted to elites only.
So, to get back to your blaming of the founders and demonizing them for creating 'religious indiferentism', I just have to say if the people are 'indifferent' towards churches of today, its probably for good reason.
Most churches are scams on the people. In saying that I do not mean to say that the teachings of the Christed one is also a scam. To the contrary, Jesus wanted to 'free' the people from these three forms of despots. His intention was once people understood Universal laws, such as, Law of Compensation, Law of Exchange, Law of Cause and Effect and the likes, they would 'govern' themselves and have no need for government ultimately. So ya, he was a huge threat to Kings, Bankers and Theologians, alike, and as such so were the founders of this country by risking all to install an unprecedented haven to attract and inspire the highest aspirations for a human being. And yes, it would mean that those of ill intent would find devious ways to infiltrate and even 'take over' this country making a mockery of the founders and the laws that guaranteed our sovereignty and property rights.
I find it appalling that so many people like yourself who profess to call yourselves 'Christian', fail to fully understand what took place in 1776 in a country called, The United States of America.
I hope you are not one of those who have bought into what seems to be the ubiquitous 'spin' being churned by various media and 'religious experts' insinuating that our founders were 'evil' masons. (see the films, 'Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings', and 'Riddles in Stone - The Secret Architecture of Washinton D.C.
Well, even though most were masons, if they were truly 'evil', they would be incapable of contriving such a breathtakingly, divinely inspired document as the Declaration and our Constitution. Plain and simple. Its like math equations, evil intent could never equal freedom to choose, to keep what you labor, protection from undue assault on your rights, etc.
Evil is concerned with its own self interest to the exclusion of all others. That was inherent with the three forms of despots. That in itself, is what our passionate and visionary founders wished to banish from our world eventually, but first, we as a people of the United States, would have to use this template and put it into practice. Simple, but not easy.
To this day we still have not lived up to it, as long as we do not hold accountable those who break the laws or trust of the people. However, we still must continue to try.
WOW!!! My GOD!!!
you have enlightened my world tonight!
thank you!
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
Post of the Night!
Nice, Anisha.
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
A quick note
Don't have time to do but a short response ...
Why yes I do thing the founders were a bunch of Freemasons. Even those who were not, were definitely of the "Enlightenment" mindset (which is just a non card carrying Mason). FYI, enlightenment = liberal. If you take a quick look at the layout and the symbolism which permeates Washington, DC IT'S ALL MASONIC!
The whole Masonic philosophy is anti-God, particularly anti-Christ (and I don't care that the low-level Masons will protest this to their dying breath -- in fact, that's exactly why they'll always be low-level). At the top, at the core, all their agenda is about a secular new world order.
You, unfortunately, cannot seem to distinguish between cause and effect. What we have become, what our churches have become, is not in spite of the government, it's because of the government.
Also, I could pick apart your little history lesson, but, alas, I must leave.
imagine that...
i guess we'll just have to take your word for it?
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
"There are greater things than heaven and earth that are
known to us in our philosophy, Horatio!" -Shakespeare
While I do not doubt imagine that the Masonic order has been in fact 'infiltrated' with some of the most vilest of what can be called, human beings, I maintain that there would equally be those of the greatest and noblest souls of the light who work anonymously for the goodwill of all humanity. Those of the light have always been there throughout history.
Those co-opted Masonic orders working for the dark side, would tend to use the utmost fear and loathing blood oaths to keep its members under control, while promising riches beyond their wildest dreams. Hence, your anti-Christ, and anti-God types who maintain some of the most powerful positions of banks, churches, law, government and military.
However, those working for the highest good of humanity would instead use ‘warnings’ that should anyone betray such sacred work, only God may decide the ‘appropriate’ vengeance or something along that line, trusting in the Creator. Betrayal is the ultimate weapon used for the good and for the evil.
These 'secret' orders are definitely a 'double edged sword' to be sure and I would be very cautious to throw the baby out with the bathwater! Those who join may be some of the most courageous of men with noble intent, while there will be others in it for greed, lust and power.
Even George Washington himself alluded to the possibility that the masons were infiltrated with ‘royalists’ in a letter. There are also various notions pointing to this possibility throughout the treacherous 18th century. If Washington was ‘evil’ he would have surely taken the crown offered to him when he and his troops staked claim for a ‘free’ United States. But he didn’t. That would have gone against his conscience and his intent. No, he was certainly not evil and neither were his fraternal ‘brothers’ and soon to become founders of this country.
When the Catholic president, Kennedy, made his speech against 'secret societies' operating in the United States, I suggest he may have been passing on a papal message from the Vatican to cause doubt and divisiveness throughout the Masonic organizations who, in fact, act in harmony with our Declaration and Constitution and its foundational philosophy.
That speech was a deliberate attempt at causing chaos and further infiltration. It would not be the first time this has occurred. His speech was similar to the speeches given by various bishops and popes during the middle ages, when they wanted to smoke out ‘heretics’ and ‘witches’ amongst the people who would dare operate ‘outside’ their sphere of power. Labeling people has been a very useful technique for millennia. It serves to slow down efforts to progress beyond a monopolized reality created by those of the dark side.
Co-opted Masons working against the Amercian way, must have found Kennedy’s speech to be quite useful to their purposes. We are today just about completely overtaken by, what I may suggest, are these ‘co-opted’ Masonic orders that clearly are working against every possible philosophic tenet of what our founders left for us.
We sit here today, December 2008 completely incredulous, shaking our heads as to what has taken place in our country!
I also have no doubt that in fact there is a 'war' taking place right before our very eyes; thus we have had ‘illegal’ elections in 2000 and 2004, we got 9/11, Bush/Cheney et al, with all their ‘illegal’ laws. We got pre-emptive occupational invasions of ‘sovereign’ countries, spying on its citizens, extreme uses of torture and holding people without honoring habeas corpus and even removing it from our legal system. We got bailouts for the ‘pigs at the trough’, of all the monopolies while they exercise their right to ‘foreclose’ on their collateral.
What people do not realize is the central bank will present their signed mortgages to the Fannie Mae ‘window’ to receive the full amortized amount 30 years ahead of time in full value up front which in fact belongs to the person/s who must pay this mortgage! So talk about sleight of hand.
Yes, it would be a 'masonic' war of good vs evil. The ‘uninitiated’ people are to be content with their religion, sports, tv, and toys while they are perpetually in debt and losing their homes by the droves.
Oh, and about a secular new world order. I suggest that too is a double edged sword.
I pray that God-willing, it will work its way out to eventually lead us all toward a country that is purified of corruption and monopolies. A country whose people take full responsibility for their thoughts and deeds in direct proportion to the freedom they enjoy!
I look forward to your 'picking apart my little history lesson'.