(Update 2/08 ) Idaho Acreage Group Buy $1700 per acre

3,324.00 Acres

Columbus, NC 32 Acres of Woods and Fields

Not bad here either..And the winters arent near as bad..or long

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Does the $1,700 include or exclude mineral rights, also surface water rights? How is the ground water (deep, potable, mineral contents, disolved solids)? What are the state laws regarding sub-dividing (for example, in Cololrado, land sub-divided into lots of less than 35 acres must include water and sewer services, rather than a water well and septic tanks & leach fields on each lot). Waste treatment facilities and water treatment facilities as well as the collection / distribution systems are expensive to build and operate. Roads are very expensive - dirt / roadbase roads are at least $10,000 per mile to build, and reasonably expensive to maintain. Paved roads are off the charts. How far is the land from existing power lines. It will cost about $1500 for every 300 feet of overhead power lines (About 7x more for underground power) that must be added. What activities have gone on underground (mining comes to mind - a couple of my neighbors drilled their water wells into existing mine shafts and the wells were lost - at $20/ft to drill, it's a real pisser to hit a void at 300').
Owning mineral rights associated with the land is important because when the minerals rights are owned by others, the surface owners cannot deny reasonable access across or on their land to the mineral owners (at least in Colorado). "Reasonable access" is determined by the state regulatory agency, which is generally in the pocket of industry.

How is the soil? What is the current ground cover and what is the ratio of treed acreage to meadows? Has there been a history of fire (burned out stumps and only "young" trees?

At $1,700 / acre, I'd guess that the water rights and mineral rights were sold seperately.

You should consider a "common" geothermal facility. Geothermal for individual homes is almost unaffordable.

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Is there any way you can look it up?

a site we could visit that would show what the area looks like.

group several years ago?

Once you have enough investors to pay off the note, I would suggest cutting up some of the acreage into small city-sized lots. A lot of us who are rooted in other states might want to buy a small plot, like 50 x 100, enough to build a cabin on---if the price was low (as in close to "at cost").

These people with other homes or retreats could visit on vacation and develop their plot long-term, as part of your community. And support meetups, rallies, etc., that you might create in the future.

A low-cost "dual-citizenship" approach like that might get the town (I assume you want your own town or community) off with a bang. Everyone is on tight money, and many people who are interested in your concept will not be ready for a permanent move in the near future.

One acre, that costs you $1800, could be subdivided into eight 50 x 100 foot lots, with .8 acres left over for a street down the center. If you long-term leased, or sold, each lot for $500, you would have a neighborhood started with little effort other than paperwork. The cheap lots would sell easily, and it could jump-start your community overnight. If the lessees or buyers also paid all their own legal fees and title, etc., the one acre subdivision would make you a modest profit of $3200. Or a profit of $6200 per acre, if you sold plots for $1000 each.

Not much profit, but if your real goal is population growth of libertarian friends, a nice easy startup. Your city would grow rapidly.

I'm just suggesting this for one corner of your planned retreat, for out of staters and those who want to treat it as vacation property initially. If you're trying to kick start an incorporated town, five to ten little subdivisions like that might help get the ball rolling fast.

Think if it as the "Baltic and Mediterranean Avenue" on your Monopoly board. What do you think?

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Think you can own this land? You won't own it, you never will unless you have a lodial title, The government can take it from you anytime you want. Why dont you say you will rent it? Because that is exactly what you will be doing.