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Pastor Lindsey Williams-The Next 12 Months

PASTOR LINDSEY WILLIAMS - THE NEXT 12 MONTHS:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2219026291450576553...

Pretty interesting....from his DVD.



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Lets attack the messenger

No matter how many times he gets it right. Just like they do to Dr.Paul.

There is a key difference.

There is a key difference. Ron Paul predicted what was coming from studying fundamental economic theory and seeing where our financial policies were taking us. Williams made his predictions based upon an unknown insider source. The former relies on facts and principles. The latter relies heavily on the informant. There is a much greater chance of manipulation in the latter.

I am not saying that Pastor Williams is bad, but he could certainly be misled by his informant. Something to consider.

Not so much...so far

His difficulty was in timing and tactics as he only has had "so much" to expound upon. The strategy seems dead nuts on and will probably play out in the next 12-18 months.

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

Don't get me wrong. He has

Don't get me wrong. He has been very accurate thus far which certainly points to the quality of his source. They obviously are privy to very important, inside information.

But we need to be careful. The best lie is that which contains a lot of truth.

For example, what if, say, their plan is explode this thing before the end of this year. They tell Williams that it will be another 6 to 12 months -- that gas prices will not increase for at least that long. People breath a little sigh and procrastinate or, worse yet, decide to play the markets in the interim. They are then caught by surprise as the trap is sprung a little early. I am not saying that is what will happen, but it is certainly a possibility.

Therefore, I take what Williams says with a grain on salt -- albeit a lot less than many of the other conspiracies I see on here.

My Problem With the Pastor

My biggest problem with the pastor is his repeated statements indicating that "they" are in complete control. That nothing happens outside of a plan: their plan.

Is this man really a preacher? Does he actually read his Bible anymore? The Bible makes its case very clearly and conclusively. Nothing happens in this world outside of a plan: God's plan. If he is a man of God, he should know that. If the powers that be are to succeed in their manipulations, it will be because God has allowed it to happen. It also means that if God does not want them to succeed, they will not.

Whether you agree with what I said about God's plan or not, the fact that this pastor is undermining his own religion should give us all pause. We should be asking ourselves "why?". I don't know the answer to this, but it troubles me. Why are "they" allowing him to spread this information at all? Is this a setup to distract us or put us in a position in which they can tear us down?

Accuracy in predictions is one thing. Having the proper solutions and mindset is another. Ron Paul accurately predicted what was coming, and his prescription was true and good. Lindsey Williams has been accurate but he is also promoting fear and glorifying evil (by saying that they will succeed).

He may just be a good man who has been overwhelmed by it all, but it still makes me leary of him.

Freewill is a glorious thing

"Nothing happens in this world outside of a plan: God's plan. If he is a man of God, he should know that. If the powers that be are to succeed in their manipulations, it will be because God has allowed it to happen. It also means that if God does not want them to succeed, they will not."

Absolutely not. Man is in control of his own actions. It is called freewill. What you are saying cannot be, otherwise there are no good and evil and therefore no consequences to any of our actions. We aren't in a scripted movie created by a madman, we are in a choose-your-own-adventure book full of beauty and terrors and choices. We are in control, so choose wisely my friend.

God's plan is to clean up our mess in the end.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

No, it is not quite that

No, it is not quite that simple. There is a dual truth in the Bible -- a tension between goodwill and the sovereignty of God.

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
(Rom 8:28)

In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory.
(Eph 1:11-12)

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
(Rom 10:12-13)

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
(Joh 3:16)

On the one hand, there is free-will (whoever believes in him), but then again God is sovereign (He works all things for good). I do not claim to understand fully how this works, but we are not left to fight the battle on our own. God is very active in this world, and nothing happens outside of His will. This is why James said:

Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year there and trade and make a profit"-- yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. Instead you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that." As it is, you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.
(Jam 4:13-16)

We have been given free-will, but God is still God. Otherwise, where is our hope? Where is our deliverance? If God cannot save us, who can? How can we trust the prophesies? How can we trust the promises?

We need to work as if it is up to us but have the faith that God has our back -- not just "in the end" but in every moment of our lives.

Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD and against his anointed, saying, "Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us." He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision.

Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.
(Psa 2:1-4,10-12)

I Agree 100%

Many people give "them" way too much credit and so does Lindsey Williams! Even to the point of exalting the "bad guys" to the level of "God Himself"! People are without faith. It won't be the "bad guys" who are responsible for our utter downfall if it occurs but the people who have little to no faith.

Give credit where credit is due but not overdue credit.

He's being "used" as propaganda, some form or fashion? Why else would they give him info like that?

My Thought

He's being used as

He's being used as propaganda, some form or fashion? Why else would they give him info like that?

This is my thought as well. Regardless of his position in all of this, he could be being used.

A Bit Of Clarity

The other thought, thoughts aren't nearly as judgmental as they may appear, to explain it better, I could say its more of an inquiry. After all, he is in an odd position.

No Christian

understands the Bible or Christianity perfectly, or is able to live it perfectly, or is able to include all various theological or language nuances perfectly at all times during a lecture, or even ought to try. The first thing I would do is give him the benefit of the doubt on matters you have brought up. I believe that if you and he actually discussed the matter in question, you would find a lot more common ground than you think. Williams undoubtably believes that some of what "they" are planning will happen (because of their track record), but only temporarily, and that "they" will be overruled and fail in due time, but that was not the theme of his video talk.

One another note, all this international intrigue comes with its psyops and disinformation, and intricacies that go this way and that, hither and yon, and up, down and all around, with the bad guys having to watch their own backs even with each other (that's how it was in the KGB). Williams decided to inject himself into the mess, and he may well be being used by this Mob in one form or another, but so far he has been right about a lot.

You make some valid points,

You make some valid points, and it is good of you to remind me to not judge another person. I get leery of anyone whose message seems to focus on fear instead of hope, and he seems to lean too heavily toward the latter. It is something to watch out for.

It would certainly seem that he knows inside information about the plans of a major power in the world. For that reason, I will continue to listen to what he has to say. If nothing else, it would appear that he knows what they want to do, and that is quite valuable.

So. . . What's Going To Happen?

I watched the whole video, and I still don't know. Is there more? It seemed like it was cut off.

Gotta give him his props, he certainly nailed it before. But what's next?

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

He was getting to reveal my dream employer and click

I think there was either more, or this was an old video and just got posted. I always get that, "Ok, get to it" feeling listening to him, but someone did point out, he's a southern preacher. They get that way.

I think his main message was, they are telling you what's going on every day. You just have to pay attention.

are you actually in DC?

lol

Yeah, maybe it is old, but I saw it was just posted. I had a feeling there was more, but I don't know.

He's right about paying attention, and you can see that we have been told after the fact, but who knows where to look or who to listen to for this info beforehand? I certainly don't, not always.

Not in DC, I'm in NYC.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

Not this clown again!!??

Typical BS preacher! Silly southern accent and talks forever to say absolutely nothing. I have heard this same crap every time he opens his ridiculous mouth. So he got the price of oil right? So what? McCain isn't the president elect. It's obvious he LOVES to hear the sound of his own voice. Nothing new here...same old same old! LOL

You are a fool

Williams has a 100% prediction rate. Get your head out of your ass.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

Hi truthy.

How's your day going?

truthy---- the classic

truthy---- the classic example of a typical American.. exactly the reason why we find ourselves in the mess this country finds itself in!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

SIERRAHPBT =

Lindsay Williams lap dog.

I Agree, Who Cares If He's Right?

He talks funny.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

lol! "When governments fear

lol!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

So how do we all feel about

John McCain as the next president?

This is what Mr. Williams is predicting.

Something fishy is going on with the Obama natural birth issue.

Since everything is planned, so is that time bomb.

my thought on his wrong prediction of John McCain

John McCain was out once the georgian conflict didn't spread into a world war. Then Zbigniew's protege-Obama was brought in to start wars in Central Asia. They're trying desperately to ignite a war that will lead out of their manufactured depression. McCain couldn't have done anything in Central Asia-but a war with Russia could be started with a lobotomized G.W.B.

http://killfiat.blogspot.com/

Even more scary,

what if he is right? McCain would be just another clueless puppet. No difference.

No candidate with his own ideas will be allowed to be president. Those kind of candidates get silenced or shot.

you are right.

And that would explain every televangelist in the last 50 years.

All I know is the guy has been right on everything since I heard about him.
No one on this forum or any other has the power to do even the smallest of things, like get Ron Paul elected.
But 'they', can manipulate things so easily in the favor that 'they' can put a black man in the whitehouse that has no credentials nor accomplishments and totally circumvent any and all laws whatsoever.

Welcome to the NWO.
crazyrustyforpresident

crazyrustyforpresident

reading

Just because a man reads doesn't mean he reads the truth.

they

Billyboy,
If you haven't figured out who they is yet, you need to do some research.
Here's a hint...find out who supplies the Federal Reserve and the World Banks their funding, and you will know who 'they' is.

I am a commodities trader and I only 'wish' I had listened to Mr. Williams in regard to the oil price. 145 a barrel to 42.60 would have made me a cool 5 million dollars...but, no!! I listened to all the MSM saying it couldn't happen.

I will not make the same mistake twice.

Does anyone here know what the ramifications are of the good old U.S.
defaulting on it's debt in the next 9 months. Let's see..they control the water, they control the electricity, they control your health, or lack thereof, they control your property, they control your money and currency, they control your food supply, they control your laws...and now, they want to have "TOTAL" control of everything you are and live for.

There is a tsunami coming.....will you survive?
crazyrustyforpresident

crazyrustyforpresident

most long winded story EVER.

most long winded story EVER. This guy just seems totally full of sh*t to be honest. Some wacked out nut from Alaska talking about how he converses regularly with the demonic overlords that are running the world economies and such.

you have to be the blindest

you have to be the blindest bat I have ever seen.. you do not read, you do not look at evidence.. all you do is churp like a baby bird! when a guy tells you before it happens that oil is going to go to 150.00 / barrell , then straight down to 50.00 and hits it as accuratly as this man has, you would think that anyone with 2 braincells to rub together would atleast investigate the guy.. but not neoretard! instead we bash. And we bash becuase things are way over his head!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain