Indian farmers using Pepsi and Coke as pesticides

You're trusting ABC now. Great. I feel like the teacher with a class that learned nothing all semester. You are AWAKE, stay that way. You can't dip and dive. EVERYTHING requires you to have an open mind and do some independent research, EVERYTHING!!! Just because it fits into your belief system does not mean it is true. Please guys, being awake is tough work, but it sets you free. If you like what it says, or it confirms a feeling you've had. REASERCH IT HARD!!! Try to prove yourselves wrong. If you can't, you have a nugget.

In reply to BrentR who said "At the Texas Extension (most/all states have one) you can also get information for non-organic pesticides and fertilizers.

There are hundred or thousand of people with your same interest at these sites. You will get truthful information for these folks."

I work for the Penn State Extension as a part-time extension educator in Family and Consumer Sciences. I am limited to the amount of truthful information that I can impart. There are certain topics that are taboo like for instance the benefits of Raw Milk. If I want to keep my job, I do not talk about raw milk and I do not let anyone at the office know that I regularly drink raw milk. I do not promote organic food either although I wish I could. Part of my job is to teach about nutrition but sadly it is censored.

Take time to read this; it is very telling of where our "experts" are coming from, who they are influenced by (ag corps), what their agenda is. And we must remember that these same officials pull the strings in our state dept. of agriculture.

Land Grant Colleges have been BOUGHT OUT by agri-biz giants, big pharma, the oil business barons and others. First U of Wisconsin at Madison, now PENN STATE.

RODALE, ORGANIC ORGANIZATIONS ATTACK BACK IN THIS LETTER....

Excerpt:
It is deeply disappointing and frankly shocking that members of
the Penn State College of Agricultural Sciences have announced a
departmental slate of workshops that attack a number of approaches to
farming that are benefiting hundreds of family farmers across the
Commonwealth. Many of these feature human, environmental or animal
advantages documented by research-some by research at Penn State.

Statement of Grave Concern

August 19, 2008

To: Robert D. Steele, Dean, Penn State College
of Agricultural Sciences

From: Timothy LaSalle, CEO, Rodale Institute
Leslie Zuck, Executive Director, Pennsylvania Certified Organic (PCO)
Kim Seeley, President, Board of Directors, Pennsylvania Association for
Sustainable Agriculture (PASA)

Pennsylvania Ag Progress Days is one of the state's premiere annual events to showcase the best of Pennsylvania agriculture. The 2008 edition of this event comes after a year when food costs, food safety, food v. fuel use and even food sufficiency have been major news items.

It is therefore deeply disappointing and frankly shocking that members of
the Penn State College of Agricultural Sciences have announced a
departmental slate of workshops that attack a number of approaches to
farming that are benefiting hundreds of family farmers across the
Commonwealth. Many of these feature human, environmental or animal
advantages documented by research-some by research at Penn State.

A July 28 press release titled "See agricultural myths busted during Ag
Progress Days," promises ".we will investigate and analyze some widely
believed agricultural misconceptions and scientifically show why they are
false." Some of the myths promised to be "debunked" include:

* "High Milk Production Burns Out cows"
* "Organic Therapies are Better than Conventional Antibiotic Treatments"
* "Grass fed and Organic Beef is better for Consumers" and
* "rBST-Free Milk is Better for Consumers."

The "myth-buster" topics listed in the release are simplistic and sweeping
statements about organic animal-health therapies, grass-fed and organic
beef, rBST-free milk and agriculture' s impact on the environment. This
format reduces complex issues of animal, human and environmental well-being to a true-or-false treatment of selected facts. There is no indication that the workshops will be careful examinations of how Pennsylvania agriculture can become more ecologically sound or produce food that is more healthful through many different agricultural approaches.

Because of benefits to their health, well-being and profitability, hundreds
of Pennsylvania farmers have chosen to farm organically. With the even
greater numbers who have adopted grass-based dairy or beef production, these farm families have experienced greater profit potential and seen empirical evidence of changed conditions in their fields and herds.

It is profoundly troubling, then, that the Penn State planners of these
workshops would so recklessly disparage the value of products being marketed by Pennsylvania farmers. In the case of certified organic farmers, these individuals have complied with precise process rules listed in federal regulation sanctioned by the USDA. It is further troubling to have the animal science department at Penn State take a propaganda-like approach for a narrow special interest group.

Innovative farmers and farm organizations in Pennsylvania expect our
Land-Grant university to be a leader in improving the sustainability of
agriculture in a period when fossil-fuel based inputs are more expensive and scarce and it's increasingly imperative to remove farm chemicals from our waterways. At the same time consumers are demanding more local food produced with less energy-intensive methods and toxic chemicals in more transparent processes.

Timothy J. LaSalle, Ph.D., is CEO of the Rodale Institute. He holds his
doctorate in depth psychology at Pacifica Graduate Institute, a master's
degree in populations genetics from Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, and a Bachelor of Science degree from California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly). For 12 years he was a full professor at Cal Poly, where he taught dairy science classes and served as the president and CEO of California's Agriculture Education Foundation. While at Cal Poly, LaSalle started and operated a conventional dairy near Templeton, California. He issued this statement on the release:

"As a dairy scientist, I find Penn State's treatment of organic dairy
management unobjective, unscientific, unprofessional and deleterious to many livestock farmers in Pennsylvania who are making extra efforts to farm well. Replicated research shows that there are nutritional benefits in organic milk that are beneficial to human health. This approach also dismisses the legitimate concerns of tens of thousands of Pennsylvania consumers who are benefiting from the document health benefits from organic foods, especially animal products."

Leslie Zuck is a co-founder and Executive Director of Pennsylvania Certified Organic and a graduate of Penn State University (1980). She owns and operates Common Ground Organic Farm in Centre County and served on the advisory board for Penn State's Organic Transition Project, which can be viewed on the bus tour at Ag Progress Days. She issued this statement on the release:

"Scientific, peer-reviewed studies published by reputable universities and
research organizations show the health and environmental benefits of
organic, pasture-based and rBGH-free food and farming systems. It is
irresponsible for Penn State researchers to use the Ag Progress Days venue to "scientifically show why they are false" (quote from Brad Hilty, Penn State senior extension associate). It is exceedingly unprofessional for an institution of Penn State's caliber to stoop to sensationalizing an
important and controversial topic rather than approaching it directly with
fair, accurate and well-balanced discourse. This event perpetuates the myth that there is only one way to farm - big, industrialized, highly
capitalized, resource intensive - Penn State's way.

"It is a mystery to me why Penn State is unwilling to support organic
farming, which is the only sector of agriculture that continues to grow in
our state. While farms are going out of business due to lack of profits or
lack of interest by future generations, organic production provides an
opportunity for families to stay on the farm, produce healthy food, protect
the environment and receive a stable income. While we appreciate Penn State College of Agricultural Science's offering several courses in organic
production for the first time this year, we are certainly mystified by this
unwarranted attempt to steer consumers and farmers away from organic food and production methods.

"We suggest Penn State issue an apology to the thousands of organic and sustainable farmers of Pennsylvania who are working hard to produce
high-quality, nutritious and healthy food for our Commonwealth. "

Kim Seeley is president of the board of directors of the Pennsylvania
Association for Sustainable Agriculture (PASA), co-owner of Milky Way Dairy Farm and co-founder of Northern Tier Sustainable Meats Co-op. Both farm enterprises supply Penn State's sister school, The Pennsylvania College of Technology food service, with all of their fluid milk and a majority of their ground beef requirements. He issued this statement on the release:

"Unfortunately this is what I have come to expect, since graduating from
Penn State 30 years ago. I realized then how research money was having a growing influence in the Land Grant university system. Regrettably for
Pennsylvania dairy and beef farmers, the Department of Animal and Dairy
Science has been infiltrated the most with an unparalleled lack of respect
for the basics of animal husbandry and denial of the intricate differences
in nutritional content of animal byproducts from those produced on pasture
or by organic methods.

"Recently the Northern Tier Sustainable Meats Co-op funded research at Penn State (not via dairy/animal science) looking at fat-soluble vitamin levels in ground beef samples from cows fed on pasture and stored feeds. The results of this research tell the story clearly, production methods create very different end results. Each of the past 5 years, I have guest lectured at Penn State for a course entitled "Morality and Ethics in Agriculture, " and when I show butter and cheese samples from grass-based cows, compared to our winter samples, the students are wide eyed and openly admit they are only studying an industrial approach to dairy/animal science."

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The Rodale Institute is a nonprofit 333-acre farm located in Berks County,
Pa., and dedicated to promoting the environmental and health benefits of
organic farming through rigorous research, education and outreach. Please see our innovative tools to help farmers succeed at our booth at Ag Progress Days.

Pennsylvania Certified Organic (PCO) is a nonprofit organization that
educates and certifies more than 500 organic producers and handlers. PCO is accredited to the National Organic Program by USDA. Visit their exhibit at Ag Progress Days to learn more.

The Pennsylvania Association for Sustainable Agriculture (PASA) is a
nonprofit organization working to improve economic and social prosperity of Pennsylvania food and agriculture. Local food systems are key to successful farms, healthy food and respect for the natural environment. PASA works with farmers and consumers to ensure a sustainable food system for all.

Cokes are loaded with it..

Use Pentagon Approved Pesticide/Biowarfare Chemical Aspartame in your Cokes and Pepsi's as pesticides on your victory garden.

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It's just been so long since they've gotten ahold on this site that I've forgetten most of their names. So far all I remember is:

johntitorforronpaul

We've been having a few, new trolls who pop up with a day, a week or a few hours as a member then just start deprecating posts. They don't contribute anything to the conversation besides negativity. The most recent ones I've seen are:

BrentR
Truthy

Anyone disagree with this assessment?

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