Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Myers civil suit for conspiracy on 911.
A career Army officer who survived the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, claims that no evacuation was ordered inside the Pentagon, despite flight controllers calling in warnings of approaching hijacked aircraft nearly 20 minutes before the building was struck.
According to a time-line of the attacks, the Federal Aviation Administration notified NORAD that American Airlines Flight 77 had been hijacked at 9:24 a.m. The Pentagon was not struck until 9:43 a.m.
On behalf of retired Army officer April Gallop, California attorney William Veale has filed a civil suit against former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney and former US Air Force General Richard Myers, who was acting chairman of the joint chiefs on 9/11. It alleges they engaged in conspiracy to facilitate the terrorist attacks and purposefully failed to warn those inside the Pentagon, contributing to injuries she and her two-month-old son incurred.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/911_survivor_blasts_Rumsfeld_C...




















The First 911 "Truthers"
Were the victim's family members who all lost loved ones on 9/11.
It took them 14 months of touring the country and doing TV talk shows to build enough pressure to get an official investigation started.
14 months! Before an investigation into thei murders even began!
Watch the 2 min. trailer here.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8666444901186351024
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Too bad NIST didn't write the report for the Pentagon attack.
The NIST WTC 7 Report: Bush Science reaches its peak:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/76559
"The use of 'conspiracy theory' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent and other points of view, and information that might be in
"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."
"Society [has] a right to
"Society [has] a right to erase from the roll of its members any one who rendered his own existence inconsistent with theirs; to withdraw from him the protection of their laws, and to remove him from among them by exile, or even by death if necessary."--Thomas Jefferson to L. H. Girardin, 1815
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"Today government goes roaming at will upon a boundless sea without chart or compass, seeking power wherever it can find it, with little reference to the limitations of the Constitution." - Franklin Pierce
"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820
April Gallop interviewed on Alex Jones
For those who want to hear an amazing testimonial of the events of 9/11 from the totally unique perspective of her desk at the very edge of the Pentagon impact zone, check out Aprils' four part Youtube series with Alex Jones from Sept. this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EcpiPL6kw4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZO9k3Y4H-s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Nodb21R2E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDQzO4QNpek&feature=related
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it. - Patrick Henry
this makes things more clear doesn't it !
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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !
Meanwhile, in a underground bunker nearby...
Norm Mineta testified to the 911 Commission that:
“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out….and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president 'do the orders still stand?' And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said 'Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?'"
What he interpreted Cheneys' order to mean, and what actually happened as a result of it, where quite opposite:
"Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, saying 'When I overheard something about "the orders still stand" and so, what I thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something down.'
Norman Mineta made it clear to reporters-- who verified his quotes in written text alongside him-- that Mineta was indeed talking about a stand down order not to shoot down hijacked aircraft headed for the Pentagon.
After no shoot down took place, it became clear that Cheney intended to keep NORAD fighter jets from responding-- evidence that Cheney is guilty of treason, not negligence for allowing the Pentagon to be hit."
Cheney, on 9/16/01 with Tim Russert, gave this damning confession of his involvement in the 911 events:
"We had access, secured communications with Air Force One, with the secretary of Defense over in the Pentagon. We had also the secure videoconference that ties together the White House, CIA, State, Justice, Defense--a very useful and valuable facility. We have the counterterrorism task force up on that net. And so I was in a position to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make decisions in terms of acting with it."
So despite Minetas' testimony of Cheneys' order not to intercept, (left out of the 911 Commission report), and Cheneys' confession that, "I was in a position to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make decisions in terms of acting with it", we are still expected to believe that that events of that day, especially involving THE PENTAGON, were only all about malicious Islamic fanatics having their way with us. Well, all I can say is...yeah, right??!!
The above quotes are from: http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/260607_mineta.html , and include the some great video clips there also.
I believe April has a great case, and deserves our prayers and financial support!
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it. - Patrick Henry
I remember watching that clip , which conveniently dissapeared
from public strutiny save for the 911 truth movement.
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~
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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !
P.S. YouTube Boycott, December 19th, 2008
Wait on checking these videos until Saturday the 20th or later. We should all want to support this boycott if we value free speech.
For more about this check out: http://www.infowars.com/?p=6622
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it. - Patrick Henry
Bigg Digg
Frontpage now: http://digg.com/world_news/Career_Army_officer_sues_Rumsfeld...
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Statement from Pilots for 9/11 Truth
Statement from Pilots for 9/11 Truth:
We have contacted April offering any assistance she may need with this lawsuit.
We stand with the Scholars, Veterans, Architects & Engineers for Truth...when we ask for an investigation into the events of 9/11.
We do not accept the 9/11 Commission Report...
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Hitler wrote about "The Big Lie"
and I think reading that is key to understanding 9/11!
"The Great Spirit made us all--he made my skin red, and yours white; he placed us on earth and intended that we should live differently from each other." Petalesharo
you've heard of political theater...
This is legislative theater. This will get no where, and Cheny will make sure if that if he needs to.
http://federalfallacy.com
http://federalfallacy.com
Do you mean judicial?
We'll see what happens. I try not to be so pessimistic.
What do you think Cheney will do?
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This is a response to Horiusatthegates
You didn't post a lick of scientific information defending your side.
VVV Stop posting this past and copy grey matter VVVV
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Notice how whatever his username is
says "wiring up" the WTC? This is exactly the type of insistent ignorance that forms the foundation of the denial which--if not caught in time--gives birth to the necessary prequisites for a descent into mental illness. One cannot insist on denying reality and physical facts on a long-term basis without risking mental illness.
Wires??? Wires??? Wires???
I don't know...what can you say to this?
The 9/11 Conspiracy guys are retarded.
Just as it's wrong to find complicated conspiracy where simple incompetence will explain everything, it's also wrong to presume evil motives where simple mental retardation may be the explanation.
Loose Change didn't invent the 9/11 conspiracy. The conspiracy theories started loooong before 9/11, because there is a core group of people out there who quite simply believe every conspiracy theory ever suspected, ever, by anybody.
For instance, the Loose Change guys actually guest hosted a talk radio show recently. When a caller suggested that we should be more worried about the government controlling the weather, the guys agreed that of course the government has weather control machines but this 9/11 thing is also important. Hey, why not.
Now, fans of this site know, I don't be trustin' me no government. I've put in time at various intelligence agencies and at one major government contractor (Kellogg, Brown & Root). I've worked for these people and let me tell you, the government is a mess. And elected officials, don't get me started on those people. They'll do anything it takes to get votes.
But here's the thing. The 9/11 "Truth" guys, the Loose Changers and all the many websites, they don't just think government is corrupt. They think everybody, and I mean everybody, is either evil on a demonic scale, or a mindless sheep.
For instance, how much money would it take to get you to kill 3,000 random, innocent Americans? Or, say you stumbled upon somebody else's plan to kill 3,000 innocent Americans. How much would it take to get you to stay silent afterward?
A hundred dollars? Two hundred? Two hundred fifty?
Well if the conspiracy guys are right, there are people reading this right now who took that deal. No kidding.
Here's why. The entire 9/11 "Truth" movement rests on the idea that the World Trade Center towers were rigged with explosives, a "Controlled Demolition" like you see with old buildings. That's the whole thing. They say the buildings couldn't have come down otherwise.
Forget the fact that no experts on the subject agree with them. That's not the point right now. We're just trying to get inside these guys' heads.
Now, maybe you could keep the plan itself a secret. A few dozen murderous black ops guys, demolitions experts with a grudge against the USA, maybe they've been brainwashed. Who knows. Maybe it could be done. People point out that the Manhattan Project to build the atomic bomb was kept a secret, so why not this?
But the cover-up. Holy shit, guys. Covering this thing up after the fact would be like trying to keep the atomic bomb a secret after Hiroshima. Just wait 'till you hear this.
First, picture the demolitions teams wiring up the World Trade Center towers with explosives prior to the attack. Obviously you couldn't do it during business hours, since it'd be kind of hard to explain to the 100,000 people who worked at or visited the WTC towers on any given day why you had a huge chunk of wall torn out and were wiring up a bomb on the steel beams there.
I mean, keep in mind, I don't know how big of a job that would be (no one has ever demolished a building that size before) but a building just half the size of one WTC tower took 4,000 separate charges to bring down. Four thousand.
That job took seven months of prep work... and they had the run of an abandoned building, without having to hide their work from 100,000 people every day. Our demolition crew, on the other hand, can work only at night and has to spend the last bit of every shift carefully repairing the wall and hiding any evidence of charges or detonators as not to be discovered during the day.
Huge teams of demolitions experts, who had no problem wiring a building full of innocent New Yorkers to explode, hired in secret, worked every night for what had to be a year (and that's only if they had a big enough crew) placing maybe 10,000 separate charges in each tower and another few thousand in WTC 7 (the smaller WTC tower that also collapsed, later in the day on 9/11).
And nobody notices.
That's right. That's the theory they're putting out there. 100,000 DVD's they've sold with this.
Truckloads of bombs, dozens of mysterious workers, going in and out of the building, night after night. Security at the building doesn't catch them, Port Authority Police don't catch them, random eyewitnesses who stumble across the operation and call the cops don't catch them, maintenance workers who stumble across wet paint and repaired walls and bits of strange wire don't catch them, security cameras don't catch them.
The bomb-sniffing dogs who were brought in from time to time (remember, these buildings were bombed by terrorists in 1993) who are trained to find even one bomb, fail to notice the 10,000 bombs lining their building.
If you're saying that nothing could possibly be more retarded than that, you're wrong.
No, they're just getting started. It's at this stage of the hypothetical plot when the 9/11 conspiracy guys say the real cover-up began. This is when all of the many, many people who could have blown the lid off the whole thing chose to stay silent because they were paid off by the government.
That includes hundreds of private researchers and government employees who prepared gigantic reports about the collapse of the towers from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).
Also, officials in the New York City Fire Department.
All were written fat checks, say the conspiracy guys, to cover up the murder of 3,000 New Yorkers. Keep in mind, some of them were New Yorkers themselves - all of the FDNY guys were - and some of them had friends who died in the towers. The theory even says it was the commander of the FDNY itself who detonated one of the buildings, and therefore he was in on the decision to kill 343 of his own firefighters and 60 police officers.
For money. If that were you... how big would that check have to be? These are people he saw every day, worked with every day. He went to weddings, birthday parties, to baseball games with these guys. In the mind of the 9/11 conspiracy, he'd kill them all for a big enough pile of cash.
Would you?
There's more. We have hundreds, if not thousands, of reporters and writers who researched the collapse, including the nine reporters and dozens of experts for the huge Popular Mechanics article on the subject.
They were paid off, too. And paid enough to walk away from the story of a lifetime, a chance to blow the lid off the conspiracy. Paid enough to refuse a sure Pulitzer and a lifetime of fame and riches as one of history's greatest heroes. And paid in such a way that no other reporters would notice and get jealous or ask questions. These people do tend to be the curious type, you know.
We're getting a nice sized payroll here. Now let's add in the hundreds of people from a dozen different agencies and police departments who claim to have helped clean up flight 93 wreckage, including 300 volunteers. The conspiracy guys say there was no plane, therefore they were paid to lie, along with all of the witnesses in Pennsylvania who claim to have seen the plane go down.
But wait, there's more. Because there are hundreds of thousands of civil engineers and structural engineers in the world (people who are experts in what makes buildings fall down) and lots of demolitions experts. Approximately zero of them say the 9/11 attacks looked like bombed buildings. All of them either say outright that the demolition theory is asinine, or are silent in the face of what the Loose Changers say is video proof of mass murder so obvious even an uneducated jackass off the street can spot it.
The conspiracy guys' explanation?
You guessed it. They were paid to stay silent. Hey, why not? Probably half a million people there, but, you know. Since we've got the checkbook out anyway...
Also, think of all of the friends and family of these paid conspirators, who suddenly see all this mysterious wealth...
...Wouldn't some rumors get started?
You've got some hypothetical professor who was about to write a paper proving the towers were demolished, suddenly coming into Powerball-sized wealth and abandoning the paper at the same time... his wife never let it slip? His kids didn't object? All his jealous colleagues who noticed the sudden new cars and new home and elaborate vacations, nobody asked questions? Nobody made an anonymous call to the IRS, just out of spite? All the bank employees who noticed thousands of mysterious deposits, all of which have to be reported to the IRS, that didn't leave a trail?
I mean, we're up to a sizeable portion of the US population here. Odds are you've passed some of these people on the street.
Today.
And keep in mind, this can't be chump change. Even in a world where every structural engineering desk jockey is okay with mass murder, they're still not going to risk jail and career ruin and walk away from a huge book deal for ten grand. Oh, no, it's got to be millions, per person, just to make it worth it. Even a dedicated conspirator would need to know he or she was set for life.
Let's say they wrote 500,000 checks (hell, you've got more than 120,000 people in the American Society of Civil Engineers alone, and they'd be the first ones to speak out). Say the average payout was ten million (barely enough to live rich the rest of your life, but let's just say). So that's 500,000 times ten million which is...
...Five TRILLION dollars.
That's about half of the value of all goods and services produced in the United States last year. Therefore the 9/11 conspiracy was, in terms of payroll, the single largest employer in the history of the world.
And here's the kicker...
100% of the people who were offered the deal, took it.
After all, we don't have a single person who has come running into the offices of the New York Times, waving a check and saying, "look! Here's a check for ten million smackers that the government gave me to be silent about 9/11! Can you believe these assholes? Now give me my book deal!"
Not one. Even with the lure of fame and fortune and a chance to go down in history as The Guy Who Saved American Democracy, even with the crushing guilt of seeing thousands of bodies hauled out of the rubble, even seeing the horrors of a nation turned inside out by war and paranoia that was completely manufactured as a gruesome hoax, some of these people having their own friends and families and colleagues die in the attacks, not one turned down the money... or took the money and came forward anyway.
And that, is the conspiracy mindset.
It's not a belief in corrupt leaders. Hell, we all believe in corrupt leaders. It's a belief in a corrupt everybody. It's driving around in a world where every single person you see out of your windshield is utterly bloodthirsty and amoral, all except for you and a few, brave friends. What could make you feel more important than that?
You can see the attraction right away. Most people, to feel special, have to actually do something special. But why not do what these guys do, and just make the rest of the world out to be wretched? Hell, once we've painted everyone else as mindless or murderous, all we have to do to feel superior to them is roll out of bed.
Remember what I said earlier about Dylan Avery and how it was probably just a desire for fame that drove him to do all this? Look at the parallel here. At the heart of all this is that basic human need to feel special somehow, twisted in the most warped and corrosive way imaginable.
In conclusion, the 9/11 Conspiracy Guys aren't evil and they aren't liars. They're merely filling a basic human need, using their imaginations and paranoia to elevate themselves to a level the real world will never elevate them to. Also, they're retarded.
The Verdict:
Liars? Retarded? They're probably both right. Just as the crooked televangelist steals from old widows who themselves have an honest faith in God, Dylan Avery and the Loose Change guys have made a nice name for themselves (and a nice profit) from a large group of true believers who have always lived at the fringes of society. These are the type who think the moon landing was a hoax, that Area 51 houses alien spacecraft.
And then you have the rank and file, the kids who watched the video and just plain didn't know any better because they didn't follow it up with any reading. They're not reading this, for instance.
No, they saw Loose Change and went charging into their favorite forum or chat room, screaming, "WATCH THIS BITCHWHORES LOOSE CHANGE IS GONNA CHANGE YOUR WORLD." By the time people started posting info that debunked it, it was kind of hard for them to back down without looking like an asshole. So, they stand by it.
So even if you strapped them down and forced them to read this, they'd just pick out one detail that they thought would give them reason to discredit the whole thing and dismiss it from their minds.
After all, nobody likes feeling like an asshole. But if we keep getting the real information out there, with time, the conspiracy silliness will fade away.
I have faith in humanity.
-by David Wong
http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_p2.html
You are either uninformed or a liar
Oh yes, allllll the experts agree with YOU (nevermind all of the evidence to the contrary). Well Horatius, answer the question that's been asked to you "debunkers" several times. I mean, actually answer the question rather than sidestepping the issue.
Why do you believe the official version of events? (i.e. upon what scientific basis do you support the story?) And try to avoid weaseling out by meekly asking what the official story is. It's the story that's been propped up by the White House and pounding into your head by the MSM ever since 911. If you can't even figure that one out, you are hardly qualified to say two words about the subject.
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Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms - should be a convenience store, not a government agency!
Your whole post is pathetic.
Your premise is based on the amount of money that would be needed to keep everyone silent... Impossible or not, it is but a distraction to what actually did happen that day.
"If you're saying that nothing could possibly be more retarded than that, you're wrong." I think its more retarded to think that 19 guys with boxcutters and a long dead patsy OBL could infiltrate and successfully attack us. Because you know Kahlid Shake Mohamad ordered Norad to stand down and made all the defense measures within our nations capital stop working, all from a cave.
Your stories don't fool anybody anymore my friend. The gig is up. I won't take the time to get caught up in your false arguments, I only post to point out how much of a sham you and your quack theory (this monetary one and the Official Theory, which is an obvious lie) truely are.
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David is W(r)ong lol
Watch September Clues. See if they can debunk that one !
Real eyes realize real lies
2012, we want our country back
2012 is the year for Ron Paul!
MSM Report: http://www.msmreport.com/
instead of ad hominem, strawmen and red herring arguments...
...tell us (without copying and pasting), what makes you believe the government's official 9/11 conspiracy theory?
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Don't like it? Find a new website troll.
"Now, fans of this site know, I don't be trustin' me no government."
You're a total joke and a pathetic caricature. Almost all of the non-troll regulars on the Daily Paul know you're a disinfo shill.
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Say What?
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
The most colossal failure
and no one gets fired...Indeed, one Richard Myers (among several others) gets promoted. As Charles Boyer (sp?) would say, "Now that's a fine kettle of fish!", iddn't it?
Scum. This woman is being denied government support? That's how we support our troops? The muck surrounding us--up, down, sideways--all around. Unbelievable...
Now, what kind of a nutcase would one have to be in order to continue supporting and promulgating the "official government conspiracy theory"? I submit that people who believe the official story (those who've even bothered to consider it at all) suffer from--at a minimum--a very serious case of denial and at worse, a form of mental illness.
Surely We'll Get Justice Now That It's In The Unbiased Courts
Uh, right?
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
Bump for the memory of innocent people...
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Bump for all the
slimey disinfo pukes that defend the murder of 3000 citizens by trying to cover up the truth.
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Good Report
what was her baby doin' in the office or am I bein' ole fashioned? Don't have to answer, good report though.
Watch the cock roaches scurry as light turns....
"The use of 'conspiracy theory' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent and other points of view, and information that might be in
"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."
Let's see if the
Disinfo cracks attempt to sling nonsense on this..
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wow...
I had to refresh because I left this up last night....I honestly can't believe that all the good gubment luva's aren't here to straighten this all out for us. Are they on vacation? :O)