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im all for nuclear
im all for nuckear power..its cleaner, safer, more efficient, cheaper, and lasts a long time..the navys used it for a long time without major mishaps..i think its time we got on board...
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I think it is Electric
I think it is Electric Avenue on the Government/Cartel monopoly board.
What do you think about Nicola Tesla? I find his work facinating the tower that transmits wireless power; and the video of him walking around in a field with a lightbulb on a rod; every time he put the rod into the earth the lightbulb would go on...
Nick Begich: Angels Don't Play This HAARP seems to be another system developed to natural draw energy from the earth.
too dangerous
wind power is so much better but very expensive.
i have to disagree with it
i have to disagree with it being dangerous..
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The Real Problem
It's not that Johnny can't read...he cannot. It's not that Johnny can't think...he cannot. It's that Johnny has never been "Taught to "think".
Feeling and analytical reasoning are entirely different things.
"..shall not be infringed."
"..shall not be infringed."
Nuclear Power is ridiculous.
The waste alone is a devastating. When will man learn that you cannot just bury something and it will go away. Nuclear waste is not a decomposable entity. But what it is stored in is. Think.
If anyone hear has seen the effects of the newborns in Iraq from the use of depleted uranium used in the bombs one could quickly come to the conclusion that nuclear is evil beyond evil.
When in a time we have abundant supplies of solar , wind and current or wave technologies that gather power from the never ending currents in our oceans and many countries are reverting to these methods and are completely self sustainable one questions why the dinosaur thought of nuclear pr oil power is even still around. Except for profits and pollution.
I've supported nuclear power most of my life...
but I don't believe in government subsidizing it with limited liability. Pebble bed reactors, which do not melt down, were invented at the same time as control rod reactors, which do. However, control rod reactors produce better weapons grade byproducts, which is why they were chosen for further development by the government in the first place..
However, given that virtually all of our electrical energy could be produced on the moon and microwaved to earth, their is no reason to further risk contaminating our environment with nuclear waste. I believe, were government to allow the marketplace to decide, nuclear energy would NOT be the most popular option.
The big picture
The big picture is that it is not up to me, you, or any government official to say which form of power generation we should use. As long as private property rights are protected (which forbids anyone from dumping on land not owned by them, poisoning land, air or water) then it is up to the free markets to choose which is the best form of power generation.
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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."
see-thru,
yesterday you said
quote:
" remember the past... you know all those civilizations that just disappeared and there just isn't any explanation...
hmmm... who do you think has THAT capability?? "
I ask you again .... please tell us ...
Who ?
vlbc...
if you read james casbolt’s work—you’ll get a feel for the depth of the black ops world. his stuff on the federation vs the galactic confederation is pretty accurate.
combine that with zecharia sitchin’s work and you should be able to figure it out. his book, The 12th Planet, is a good summary.
if you still can’t figure it out, you can try and locate an old Ramtha book called – last waltz of the tyrants. he spells it out.
now if any of that work seems too far out for ya… check out ‘forbidden archeology’ by michael cremo. fyi- it is a brutal read.
if you wish to discuss it go to: http://forums.libertylove.org/
this is just a tad too far out for this site! :)
see-thru,
quote:
" this is just a tad too far out for this site! :) "
I agree ... and that's saying something, with all the other far-out stuff on this forum !
France, the poster child for
France, the poster child for nuclear power, just had a couple of leaks. Funny, you don't hear about that in the news do you...anyway, I'll pass on the radiated brie, thank you very much!
R3VOLution
won't work
Hello citizens,
I recommend Amory Lovins' FORGET NUCLEAR which can be found on Rocky Mountain Institute's website, rmi.org.
Basically, renewables, small hydro, and co-generation are getting billions in private investment money while nuclear is getting zip. World over people are adding these types of power, many times that which nuclear is adding.
He points out that government central planners can have only as many nuc's as they can force taxpayers to pay for.
dumbest idea EVER!
here's what ramtha had to say on the matter:
"You think nuclear power plants are the answer?
You are so stupid. You don’t even realize that water from fuel rods will not break down for 10’s of 1000’s of years.
So you’re going to bury it?? Who gets to inherit THAT when the earthquakes come? Who gets to have radiated water in the soil for 1000’s years?"
The Source of this: www.Ramtha.com
Here it directly from The Ram: http://www.ramtha.com/html/store/Changes.asp
note: the titles of the talks are just where the talk occured. it is NOT the subject matter of the cd. you can click on each one and it will outline the topics addressed in each talk.
i HIGHLY recommend them ALL. ESPECIALLY the cds.
You're kidding, right?
You do know that "ramtha" is a fictional character, I hope.
-jcr
"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel
i KNOW he’s a real being.
however, i understand how YOU may not think so.
he’s chosen a HIGHLY unconventional way to teach us in this timeline. there is a lesson in that.
i would suggest that you look beyond the appearance of the messenger and just look at his prediction track record. it is EXTRAORDINARY.
i’ve been to three of the advanced events. the science he teaches is beyond ANYTHING you will get in the highest levels of academia. ram has said, everything he teaches will be proven by science. so, far he’s been correct on that.
fyi--- after you get your first runner any doubt you have rapidly evaporates. however, if you’re stubborn he can rain runners on you till you beg him to stop! :)
what’s a runner? a runner in ramtha’s lifetime was responsible for bringing specific messages or information. a master teacher has the ability to send runners to other people that manifest their words or intent in the form of an experience or an event.
Just as good as...
....Jesus, Juju, or Jupiter.
Not the silliest argument I've seen.
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no thanks
Too old, terrible waste problems, very expensive without gov $, takes too long to get online and it's dangerous.
Wood stove and solar for my home and business property are all I need. Still going solar...
need info
I thefreeman,
I'm building a home in the country and plan to heat with passive solar and wood. I'll also put in PV's and windpower. I'm still pretty new at this. I would be interested in anything you have learned from experience.
Thanks,
Google solar & wood stove
Here are a few of my bookmarks.
Wood heat: http://www.woodheat.org/index.htm
EPA wood stoves: http://www.epa.gov/woodstoves/
Installation: http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d000101-d000200/d000132/d000132...
Backwoodsman: http://www.backwoodsmanmag.com/
Mother Earth News: http://www.motherearthnews.com/
We already have FUSION - why use anything else?
We already have a fusion reactor, located 93 million miles away (a safe distance). It's called the sun, and it's remaining energy has been estimated to last an additional 5 BILLION years.
If you think about it, all fuel is solar (albeit indirectly) - so why go through the process of "fossilizing" it as petroleum - or taking the extreme risk of bringing fision/fusion to the earth's surface where we live?
Sunlight is freely available to all, and individual use does not diminish the resource for anyone else in any way. Think about that for a moment. That is a prime example of "divine" engineering.
With the current state of technology, there is no reason that grid power is required for residential needs, right-now (industrial production may require additional fuel inputs for the foreseeable future). For example Don Steven's (www.greenershelter.org) has designed a passive "annualized geo-solar" technology which stores summer heat in the earth beneath the home for winter use. The projects he's completed average 70 degrees, year round (even in temperate climates!). Since heating and cooling are one of the major factors in domestic fuel/power consumption, this is a *huge* step forward. With DC appliances, a few solar panels and a wind turbine would easily provide for all domestic electrical needs.
Recently, a technology has emerged which will change the rules for power storage forever. It's called the ultra capacitor. This device (a solid-state battery) stores power electrically - eliminating slow charge times, and better yet, it *never* degrades. Zenn motors has an agreement with eestor (the company who holds the UC patent) to create an economy car with a 270 mile range and charges in five minutes. The car is slated to reach production by the end of 2009.
Decentralization and redundancy are the future; technically, politically and economically. Just look at the architecture of the Internet. Unfortunately, our biggest challenge will be in deconstructing the grid and getting these breakthrough technologies to the market. This is because, like the monetary system, the grid is a major tool of the establishment to maintain control over the people.
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I feel the same about nuclear that I do about a Border Fence.
I.e., it would be a good idea, if the government and the corporations in charge weren't run by a bunch of psychos, crooks, and incompetents.
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If you like nuclear energy,
If you like nuclear energy, please volunteer to have the waste buried in your back yard.
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1828
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Not a problem
First of all, if we use nuclear fuel the way it SHOULD be used - in efficient breeder reactors - the half-life of the waste products is dramatically reduced and far less is produced per watt of power generated.
Secondly, there are several places that even the most dangerous and tenacious waste can be safely discarded. The subduction zones on the sea floor and into space are two feasible possibilities.
Have we explored all other options?
Because we have no ability to dispose of the waste, it's insane that we as a civilization, would create more waste we are unable to dispose.
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Look, there is no 'clean' method of generating power...
Nuclear has three draw backs:
1) it heats up the water it uses for cooling, and thereby reduces its oxygen content... this is bad for fishies but can be easily reduced/fixed, by putting the watter in a holding tank and letting it cool down before putting it back into the stream/lake/ocean the water was taken from.
2) Its other byproduct is radioactive, and has a long half-life. Which sucks, but isn't the end of the world. The amount of waste to energy yield ratio is pretty low, so we can just store it on site until we decide on the location of a central nuclear waste repository. I personally vote we bury the junk in Nevada or some other state that's over 50% federal land.
3) If someone screws up, things can go kerblewie. These events are HIGHLY unlikely. I've lived near a plant my entire life and never died so they can't be THAT dangerous.
Nuclear is the obvious bridge that will tide us over until our next energy source. It's not perfect, but it wont spit junk into the atmosphere, it will meet all of our power needs, and it will give us time to try and figure out fusion/how to synthesize massive quantities of hydrogen.
I Mostly Agree...
...with your sensible analysis and comparisons. Everything costs something and the best things in life are expensive.
I wouldn't be so quick to volunteer Nevada as a waste dump though. Residents of The Silver State might like to weigh in on that matter.
Sticking with the context of "us" deciding what to do about "our" energy needs and what to do with the detritus thereof, however, I would offer up the District of Columbia as a superior repository for toxic and radioactive waste. It is, after all, already contaminated ground, and waste dump would be a far better and more benign use for it than its present function.
Getting just a little more serious about the question, I'd say the issue is more one of liability and responsibility. The present nuclear energy industry is a fascist creature which has been shielded from liability by Fe'ral regulations. Submit nukes, coal, petroleum, wind power, biomass, &c to the discipline of the free market and see what sails and what sinks. That is, no more subsidies for nuke power, no more restrictions on hemp production.
As usual, the solution is freedom and responsibility, which amounts to the same thing.
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I Live Right Next To One
I live right by a nuclear power plant in Ohio. The company that runs it has a very high tax burden that has built a public school campus that rivals some colleges.
It was built in a rural area, but the area has blossomed because of the strong school. Housing prices were cheaper out in this area per square foot and have held up well because of the increased development coupled with a country like atmosphere.
Even if there is a major deestruction to the plant, history shows a blast that would not engulf my house and I would have enough time to get out. I have no concern about the safety because it is a privately run company. If it were government run, I would probably move.
Overall, the power plant has done many good things for the community and has enriched our lives here.
good info
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf40.html