PRAY FOR RON PAUL!!!!! prayer4paul.com

I imagine that any religous prayer for Dr. Paul would be welcome and it wouldn't be just for Christians. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The only people who are offended at the idea of praying for Ron Paul are people who don't understand the First Amendment. The First Amendment gives the American people the right to pray wherever and whenever they chose. That includes at sporting events, in public schools, in government buildings and even in Congress! At the same time, no one can be compelled to pray. That is what Freedom of Religion means.

Many Americans have been brainwashed into believing that they couldn't pray at an event or location that public moneys were involved. That is false. The First Amendment puts all restriction on government and none on the individual. The entire Bill of Rights restrict government, not the individual.

Victims of the public schools need to understand this. They also need to know that we are a Republic, not a democracy. And they should know the difference. Unless we learn our rights, we will lose them. Is it any wonder that our politicians promote these ideas?

Prayer for Ron Paul is voluntary, so I don't understand how the mere suggestion would offend a normal person. I don't smoke or drink alcohol, but I am not offended if someone offers me a cig or a beer. Remember, Ron Paul is for tolerance. We all need to work together. It's the other politicians who Divide and Conquer.

Ron Paul brings people together, people with different beliefs. Other politicians rule by creating hatred and division. Let's all work together.

Plan B.2 - Draft the Good Doctor

Would you like to guarantee Dr. Ron Paul appears on the 2008 Presidential ballot?

But why do we need a guarantee? The establishment wouldn’t try to cheat the Good Doctor, Heavens no. He will win the Republican nomination fair and square.

When the establishment refused to allow Dr. Paul to participate in the Iowa forum,
locked his supporters out of the Texas straw poll,
changed the rules for primary voting in New Hampshire,
Delaware, Connecticut, Maryland, West Virginia,
and tried to exclude him from the Michigan Debates …
those were just flukes, errors, aberrations … right?
And FOX is “Fair and Balanced.”

There is a way to insure Our Chance to Restore the Republic.

Open the backdoor. Become a delegate to the Libertarian Party Convention.
Go online and Join the Libertarian Party [www.lp.org] before December 31st, 2007. A basic Sustaining Membership http://www.lp.org/organization/bylaws.shtml (Article 5) costs only $25 dollars.
The LP Convention will be held May 22-28 at the Adams Mark Hotel - Denver, Colorado.

Am I suggesting that you change your Republican Party affiliation?
Absolutely not!
I am saying we should play the political game and hedge our bets for Dr. Paul.
The Libertarian Party already has ballot status on nearly every state in the nation.

If you are an Independent join at http://www.lp.org/members/newmember.shtml
If you are a Republican join at http://www.lp.org/members/newmember.shtml
If you are a Democrat join at http://www.lp.org/members/newmember.shtml
If you are a Libertarian (75%+ of you already support Dr. Paul) then for crying out loud renew your membership at http://www.lp.org/members/newmember.shtml

If you are an Independent, Republican, or Democrat and you are hesitant to join the Libertarian Party then
support Dr. Paul today by hedging the bet for 2008 and don’t renew in 2009.
This is about doing the
Big Thing the Right Thing - Right NOW!

We the People have shown we will come out in force for the Good Doctor
and the Secret Plan is very simple. (It’s cleverly hidden below.)

The “Secret Plan:”

1) Swarm the LP convention,
2) Make one by-law change like so,
ARTICLE 12: PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE-PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS
2. No candidate may be nominated for President or Vice-President who is ineligible under the United States Constitution, {{edit this -- who has not expressed a willingness to accept the nomination of the Party, }}or who is not a member of the Party.

3) Nominate or “Draft” Dr. Paul,

4) “Officially” announce Ron Paul’s nomination AFTER the Republican National Convention.

Rationale:

American politics has become an empty theater devoted only to concentrating power for an anointed few. The evidence of that are the constant attacks on Dr. Paul’s campaign. The fact that Dr. Paul dominates straw polls nationwide yet is maligned by the establishment and in the media is almost a footnote.

If we the people retain the mechanism to nominate Dr. Paul then the establishment loses its control over the process. They cannot simply dismiss Dr. Paul without running the risk of having their candidate hijacked.

Imagine … the people controlling the process. That’s pretty democratic.
Imagine … restoring the republic. That’s pretty republican.
Imagine … following the Constitution. That’s pretty libertarian.

Everybody wins!

Either way it's good for the Constitution, good for America, good for Dr. Paul, and good for us because we the people would finally have a man we can all vote for and know we are doing the right thing. We simply have to beat the establishment at its own game.

Besides, Dr. Paul might actually appear twice on ballots.

Worse things could happen.

I am having difficulty understanding why anybody would be offended that those who proudly proclaim that Jesus Christ is their Savior would join together in prayer for Ron Paul.

Let us remember that Dr, Ron Paul proudly says that his personal Savior is the Lord Jesus Christ.

One thing is for certain - we need all the help we can get as does this campaign. So this topic in no way divides anyone. If you are not interested in prayer, simply ignore this thread.

The truth is - that it is those folks who reply to this thread with insults, hatred, and malice that seek to divide. If you don't like it, don't pray, but please do not insult those of us who know that prayer is poweful. On this point we agree with Dr. Paul. We are all here in support of Dr. Paul, people from all faiths and backgrounds. But the folks here asserting that Christians should refrain from mentioning it or from banding together should recall the picture from A NEW HOPE where the woman has tape over her mouth that says PATRIOT ACT. Don't try and silence others, that is what the Neo Cons do. We should all agree that while we may not agree with what is said, we would die for the right of anyone to say it.

I pray, I believe in Jesus, and I support Ron Paul for President- and yet I was proud to join together with folks from all faiths to support this wonderful man.

Nobody is forcing you to pray or to accept our convictions but those of you spewing hatred towards Christians simply because somebody mentioned Prayer should be ashamed and think about what Ron Paul would say.

Religions divide people, as this thread shows. If Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Mythraists, Wiccans, Odinists etc. wish to unite for freedom and support Ron Paul, great!

Please just keep the small minded view that YOUR religion is better than any other to like minded beLIEvers. Ones spiritual beliefs should be between them and their god/gods.

This is about individual freedom and liberty. And not all American individuals are Christian.

I want to sign up but in the dropdown signup menu, it says...
On November 16th, 2007 IndependenceNot... says:
I want to sign up but in the "Date to Pray: dropdown signup menu, it says...

11/16/2007 Thu
11/17/2007 Fri
11/18/2007 Sat

This needs to be corrected to:

11/16/2007 Fri
11/17/2007 Sat
11/18/2007 Sun

Please get this to the webmaster of the prayer website and confirm the same to me that it's done by email to: independencenotrevolution@gmail.com

Thanks very much,

Ken Fox

"For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus," (I Timothy 1:5, ESV)

If this man wants to make a site for Christians only then that's his right as an individual--like Ron Paul campaigns about.

This is his right as a free person. Please, let the neo-socialists who are going to vote for Hillary or Giuliani argue about this stuff.

Remember, we want individual freedom. We want the government out of our lives to be able to do what we want--that means others too. As long as he doesn't hurt you this man has a right to ask only Christians to go to his site.

Muslims do not believe that Allah has a son. Christians believe that Jesus is God's son. So even if God is translated as Allah in a Christian Bible, this would not be the same Allah the Muslims refer to.

Excuse me but iam a muslim and Allah is the Arabic name for God the same God you pray to. That is the big misconception of people that Allah is a different God.