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Ron Paul talks about the "Truthers"

Recently some forum posters have asserted that secretly Ron Paul supports their 9/11 theories. Here's Ron Paul's own words (supplied by Horatiusatthegates) so that you can decide for yourself:

****Paul expresses his wish that 9/11 Truthers stop talking, at Presidential Debate
Carl Cameron: "...Many of your supporters are call themselves 9/11 Truthers...Sir, would you ask them to cease their [9/11 inside job] rhetoric on your behalf?

Paul: "Well, it doesn't do me any good, so if they care about me they should [cease it]."

[Comment: Ron Paul has just said that IF YOU CARE ABOUT HIM you should cease promoting 9/11 theories in his name. Did everyone read that? Are we clear now how we should start acting in 2009 if we want this movement to succeed?]

****Dr. Paul disavows 9/11 Truthers and expresses disapproval of Alex Jones, in Interview John Gibson Show on Fox News Radio September 14, 2007
John Gibson: "You have associated yourself in some ways with these people that they call 9/11 Truthers, who think that the U.S. government was in on the 9/11 attacks. Do you also believe that's true?"

Paul: "No. And I wouldn't say I associate with them; they associate with me. But there's no way a candidate can control every thought process of everybody who supports him..."

Gibson: "But you go on Alex Jones' show...Will you say right here and now that you completely disavow the 9/11 truth movement and the whole idea that the U.S. government was on in the 9/11 attack?"

Paul: "Yes I do..."

Gibson: "I really think you're making a big mistake going on [the Alex Jones Show] and associating yourself with those views and making all these people that listen to Alex Jones believe that you agree with them."

Paul:"...I think you make a giant mistake to try to accuse me that I'm defending everything Alex Jones says. I think that's very unfair...Just like Alex Jones will do; he'll try to put words in my mouth. You try to put words in my mouth too, just like Alex Jones does."

****Dr. Paul explains that just because he allows Alex Jones to interview him it doesn't mean he agrees with him, in Interview with Julie Banderas on Fox News August 5, 2007
Julie Banderas: "Do you believe that the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was an inside job?"

Paul: "Well, the answer is no if they mean by 'inside job' that our government made it happen. No, I don't believe that."

Banderas: "Ok, but you did say on Alex Jones' radio that you believed that U.S. was in great danger of a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin-style provocation. So, do you think the Bush administration would do something like this to get us into a war, say, with Iran?"

Paul: "No, I don't. But, I talk about that because, you know, the Gulf of Tonkin was an episode that was used to get us into war. If an accident happens over there, and it's blamed - let's say Osama Bin Laden stages something and he blames it on Iran. This will be an excuse to for us to expand the war in Iran. So, I think this is very very dangerous because a lot of people, even, you know, in the Republican Party are quite willing to use a nuclear first strike on Iran. So, I think this is a very very dangerous situation that we're in. So, no I don't think President Bush is planning this. But, I think 9/11 was certainly used as a reason to go into Iraq. And, Iraq did not have weapons. They had nothing to do with 9/11. So they use events. They don't stage events, but they use it to do the things they had already planned. And, the Iraqi war has been planned for a long time."

Banderas: "...So back to the Alex Jones thing...Regarding the conspiracy theory behind 9/11, I know that you do not believe that there was a conspiracy theory however you know this guy [Alex Jones] sort of supports that idea. Then, why would you associate yourself with this kind of guy considering your reputation as a presidential hopeful?"

Paul:"Well, just think about what it would be like if I could only go on the t.v. stations, the major t.v. networks, when I knew they agreed with me on all [issues]. All the major networks agreed with the war. [If I had to agree with them] that mean't I could never be on any major t.v. network. Of course I don't support everything [Alex Jones] says, but people I associate with, I don't endorse their views - they come and associate with me to endorse me views or I'm just expressing my views. But there'd be no way I could be on television, if I had, if that was the litmus test that I had to agree with everything they stood for and what they promoted. It just wouldn't work."

****Interview with Mike Gallagher July 19, 2007
Mike Gallagher: "Is it fair to say that you believe that there was some kind of either government conpiracy or coverup involving September 11th, 2001?"

Ron Paul: "No, not really. I never bring that up. Some people try to twist what I say and turn it into that. And I think some of my supporters lean in that direction, but that's not my position. I do think government's basically inept. I mean we were spending $40 billion a year collecting intelligence, and a lot of information was out there. We had one FBI agent, I think sent dozens and dozens of memos to his superiors saying that there are people trying to fly airplanes but not land them. And, nobody would pay any attention, so I don't think that's a conspiracy; I think that's a lot of bureaucracy that doesn't work very well. And then when we have government investigations, whether it's 9/11 or assassinations, I think the main goal is to protect the government and to protect their ineptness. And that is a lot different than saying 'Oh they conspired to do this because they can use this as an excuse to spread the war in the Middle East whether they had anything to do with 9/11 or not.' I don't see it that way, but I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity. But, it wasn't something that was deliberately done."

****Dr. Paul makes it absolutely clear that he does not think the government orchestrated 9/11 attacks, in Interview with Shawn Wasson LiveLeak.com July 24,2007
Shawn Wasson: "Why do you entertain all the nonsense and all the questions from this 9/11 conspiracy crowd?"

Paul: "Well, I think your question is very biased, because I don't."

Wasson: "Do you believe that there was some kind of coverup in the September 11th investigation?"

Paul: "I think that's a perfectly logical answer ..[the coverup being that] they sort of protect themselves to show where they might have goofed up. So, I think this is very natural; that's the natural instinct of all goverments. So, that is a far cry from what you've insinuated by saying that I endorse the idea that the government had something to do with 9/11."

Wasson: "I'm saying that there is an overall perception among these people. They at least think you have some kind of inkling that 9/11 was covered up somehow -- that there was some kind of inside job as they say. Let me ask you flat out. Do you think, or do you have any evidence at all, to suggest that 9/11 was anything other than the official storyline?"

Paul: "No, I have no reason to think that. But, that doesn't mean you shouldn't find out where we fell short. So, once again, I think it's your same innuendos that you're using."

Wasson: "Your position then would be that as far as you're concerned, the official story from 9/11 - and this is not about the government covering up their mistakes. This is about the suggestions from these people...that 9/11 was orchestrated by the government, you do not support that theory?"

Paul: "Absolutely not!"

****Dr. Paul explains how 9/11 Truthers get confused into thinking he saying something that he's not, in Interview with Adam Curry on Daily Source Code October 24, 2007
Adam Curry: "9/11 Conspiracy theories. Do you buy any of it Dr. Ron?"

Paul: "Not, not really. Not the kind that say well it was all conspired by our government and they did it for this purpose of us ushering in this War on Terrorism. No I don't believe any of that. But, I believe, because it's very very clear evidence, that the neoconservatives in a way sort of welcomed the event because they even wrote about a Pearl Harbor type event that they might be able to use to promote their cause and they certainly have. But, I think where some of this stuff gets overlapped and confused [by 9/11 Truthers who annoyingly latch on to me] is that I don't think the 9/11 commision investigation was worth a whole lot because I think it was mainly designed to cover up mistakes and ineptness of government, not so much to cover up or hide a conspiracy or a plan to do this whole thing by the government. But I think the evidence was there that if we'd have had, you know, some really sharp people watching - what they- the information they accumulated they would have known that there was something very big coming on, and yet they - we haven't really arrested or fired or blamed anybody for the total ineptness of allowing 9/11 to attack us, so I think those are two different issues."

Curry: "So you're saying [it's] possible but definitely not enough information on the table?"

Paul: "Well no, I don't think there's any information to say that the government planned the event. What I'm saying is that they had information buried in the accumulation of all these files but they didn't pay enough attention to. For instance, there was one FBI agent that on dozens and dozens of times reported to his superiors that someone was training to fly airplanes but not land them and he was totally ignored...I think that was ineptness rather than a conspiracy to allow it to happen."

****Paul calls 9/11 Truth theories "preposterous" and "bizarre," in Interview with Glenn Beck, December 18, 2007
Glenn Beck: "I have watched the interviews with you. You don't leave any room for any doubt on a 9/11 conspiracy, but I'd just like to make it clear and ask you - and I don't believe these need explanation unless I've read your answers wrong elsewhere - but, may I just run through these 9/11 conspiracies?: No plane hit the Pentagon on September 11th; instead, it was a missile fired by elements from inside the American state apparatus. Yes or no?"

Paul: "No. It's preposterous."

Beck: "The planes that hit the World Trade Center towers were remotely controlled."

Paul: "[Shaking his head no and shugging his shoulders] I mean this is just bizarre. I've not even heard these challenges before."

Beck: "O.K. I understand that. I don't mean to - sir, these are the people that - some of these people speak in your name and they actually say that you will be on this program tonight and you will answer the way you are answering now because you can't let on. They believe that you are part..of another kind of conspiracy to expose the conspiracy of 9/11 and the World Trade Center. Can you - I mean you you'd - I don't know how you address people who are so deeply into conspiracy but can you?

Paul: "I, I don't know what I would be - supposed to be doing. Uh, no. I mean I don't think there's any evidence.."

Beck: "Is there any evidence or is there any doubt in your mind that the United States government was not involved in the September 11th attacks - that we did not bring down World Trade Center number seven?"

Paul: "...I absolutely believe that is true - they did not. But, the connection may be -and where some people get carried away - is if you dig through those $40 billion dollars worth of intelligence gathering apparatus that we had before 9/11, you know we dig up information and there was some ineptness, and sometimes when you find ineptness in government it's easy to make this giant leap over into conspiracy and [that] they do it on purpose, But, you know, we had an FBI agent like on seventy different occasions reported that these individuals were flying airplanes and not learning how to land them and then he was totally ignored. I consider this ineptness on government, not a conspiracy that 'Oh yeah! We know about it. We can't wait until the towers come down!' No, I don't believe that at all. I think it - I don't think I should even have to answer questions like that [laugh]."

Beck: "Yes sir. I do not believe that this is your point of view, and I don't believe that this is the point of view of most of your supporters - the vast, vast majority [of your supporters]."

****Paul explains that him saying he does not accept everything in the 9/11 investigation is simply him saying that the investigation didn't reveal where the ineptness was. Glenn Beck Show 06/19/2008 .
Interviewer: "So, many of your supporters I meet are also part of the 9/11 Truth movement. You've appeared in the movie Endgame that talks about the Bilderbergers, etcetera. Why do you think there is such an attraction from that part of the political discourse to your movement?"

Ron Paul: "Well, I'm not sure. And, one of the reasons is that, though I don't endorse those concerns, I probably have, you know, [wincing] encouraged it ironically, because I haven't accepted the 9/11 investigation."

Interviewer: "You haven't?"

Paul: "No, because I think they hid things from us, and they didn't want to blame anybody. Nobody was discovered to be inept, and we spent 40 billion dollars on security. And, and, the information was there. What about the CIA agent that reported thirty-five or forty times that these individuals were flying airplanes, learning how to fly airplanes but not land them. And we didn't do anything about it. But, nobody was punished. So, there was a lot of ineptness there. And, nobody talks about the incentives for people to commit suicide terrorism, and it's very very clear that suicide terrorists are not motivated because people are rich or because they're free. They're motivated mainly, and almost wholeheartedly, because they're occupied by foreign nations. And, if we don't understand that, we are going to be forever threatened by terrorists."

Interviewer: "Well I, once again I disagree with you, but are you saying there's something about the 9/11 attack that we should know but don't? I thought we know. Nineteen guys, airplanes slam into the buildings. What don't we know?"

"Paul: "Well, what we don't know is who was inept. We had that information, buried in all those records that some of these people were stirring around. We didn't do anything to prevent it. I mean we had all this money spent to protect us. On that day, on 9/11, Seoul Korea was better protected than Washington, D.C. and New York City. So, there's something wrong. We're looking outward, not inward. We close down bases in America, and we build them in Saudi Arabia, which was the number one motivating factor of Osama Bin Laden. He says 'You have a miltary base by foreigners on our holy land!' So, we have to understand that. If not, there's no way we can solve this problem."

****Dr. Paul say finding the ineptness that allowed 9/11 to happen needs more looking into but that a new government investigation won't help. The Rogers Report, June 22, 2007
Lee Rogers: "How do you feel about a new independent investigation, and do you think that there is some question that the government may have been involved in those attacks."

Ron Paul: ""I have never seen any evidence to show that our government deliberately partipated and contributed to that. I think their ineptness contributed to it, because I think the information was all available. You know, there was one FBI [agent] that sent in like seventy reports, and saying 'You know, this seems strange. There's some Arab muslims here taking flying lessons, but they don't want to land the plane." And, nobody would respond to him. So, I think this total ineptness is where the problem really is. They had all the information they needed, but the bureaucracy acted like a typical bureaucracy. Then investigations, government investigations are designed for a coverup, so nobody gets blamed for messing up! So, I see that. So, I don't think we've gotten to the bottom of it, but I don't trust investigations generally speaking. I mean, whether it's looking into Ruby Ridge or Waco, or assassinations. I mean there, seems like they raise more questions than they answer. So, a new investigation if you don't have any of the right people won't do any good either. It's a government investigation. That won't automatically get to the bottom of it. But, I would say we have still a lot of questions. And, just like I think we should be asking a lot more questions on how so many people were misled into believing the conditions warranted going to in Iraq, so the same way about 9/11, I think it warrants more checking into.

****Dr. Paul ridicules 9/11 Truth theories in Interview with Michael Medved on the Michaeld Medved Show. August 28, 2007
Michael Medved: "Do you have any doubt, Congressman Ron Paul, that the horrors of 9/11 were perpetrated by 19 Arab young men working as agents of international terror in the form of Al-Qaida?"

Paul: "No. I don't know of anybody that really questions that in a serious manner...To say that it was something somebody other than the Al-Qaida - and I don't hear too many people saying that - but I'm sure there are people saying things like that and that there's some type of conspiracy - but I think it's pretty hard to refute airplanes plowing into a building. [chuckle]"




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I posted a thread similar to

I posted a thread similar to this just now. I'm really wondering what you truthers are after.. where are you going? http://www.dailypaul.com/node/77407

One particular quote interests me.

Paul: "Well, the answer is 'no' if they mean by 'inside job' that our government made it happen. No, I don't believe that."

The phrase "inside job" is itself open to interpretation. Ditto for "our government made it happen".

If Ron Paul said anything demonstrably false, the media would crucify him. He also needs to tread carefully to avoid defamation lawsuits. Even if he tells the unvarnished truth, the judgement could still go against him.

It is ironic that he was only able to say what he did at the Republican debate because it was in the original 9/11 report. But even that didn't stop Guilliani from calling for a retraction!

The official story is BS. That much is apparent to me. But if you want me to accurately re-construct what really happened and who is responsible - sorry you're out of luck.

Ron Paul's request for a second 9/11 investigation is surely one that ALL Daily Paul regulars can get behind.

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Ok, Dr. Paul doesn't believe in a 9/11 conspiracy! But what

about the most important issue at the moment. Is Obama qualified under our Constitution to hold the Presidency of the United States. Why is he so mute on this issue?

To me this is the most important issue at hand today... all else can wait. I'm truly neither pro nor con on the issue at this time. But I would like a Constitutional legal opinion on this issue from someone who is supposed to a Champion of the Constitution. If Dr. Paul doesn’t know the answer to this question, who would!

I think Dr. Paul (if he’s our leader) owes us an opinion even if his opinion is 'I don't know'.

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Ron Paul Supports 911 Investigation

here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0

"Freedom is a right that can never be won in war,only by each individual "

A government investigation?

We don't trust the government. Yet you want yet another government investigation. So that you can not trust what it says. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

You people are gluttons for punishment.

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Wow!!!

You seemed to have hit a nerve on this one...

Haven't seen one yet ...

But when the rebuttal thread appears ...

You will know that you have wounded with this one.

Others have done the same ...

but not as complete as yours ...

My only criticism ...

You seem to think the commission report is accurate...

That is a mistake ...

While it may seem more reasonable ...

We just will never know until the evidence has seen the light of day.

WAHOR!!
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More accurate than the "truther" report

From what I read in the summary of the NIST WTC7 report, I would say their report is more accurate than anything the truthers have been spewing.

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a re-investigation, sure

Investigate WHY it happened, so it doesn't happen again.
Unfortunately. a call for a re-investigation into the WHY, incited quite a reaction into the Truther movement, or those that were actually interested in the HOW, rather than the why.

The why's would include:
why did we piss them off so much
why were there so many Saudi's on the planes
why did our "intelligence" agencies fail?
why did we let guys with expired papers, continue to hang out in our country.

I would bet the type of investigation that Paul would call for, would not involve holograms, or thermite, or planted explosives, or controlled demolitions.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

Again...why did Dr. Paul state that...........

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......he has questions about the collapse of WTC-7?

http://media.putfile.com/Ron-Paul-Explains-Position-on-911--...

Obviously, he must think it goes FAR beyond 'terra' or 'incompetence' in order to make a comment like that.
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He didn't, at least not in the clip you just provided.

The caller asked about it, they went to a break. Then he answered a general question about a re-investigation.

If I missed it.
please transcribe, or tell me how far into the clip, and I'll transcribe it into this thread.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

At about 3:45 into the clip...........

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.....Ron Paul says:

"There was one investigation - they spent a lot of money - very expensive - and I think he indicated they didn't mention the THIRD BUILDING that went down..........."

So, Ron Paul repeats the caller's concern that Bldg 7 wasn't even mentioned in the official 9/11 Commission Report, thereby AGREEING that, not only was the collapse of BLDG 7 suspicious, but was even MORE suspicious that it was ignored by the 9/11 Commission.

I'm going to say one last thing in this thread, and I will probably never even speak about 9/11 again in my entire life:

If you don't believe 9/11 was an inside-job by this point, you COMPLETELY deserve everything that's coming to you - especially if you've been exposed to the evidence and still remain in denial.

It's just such a freakin' no-brainer that it really is painful to see the mental-gymnastics and leaps-of-logic that the deniers put-forth in order to protect the criminals who carried this out in order to further their goal of consolidating their New World Order.

I was on a construction site the other day and I was speaking to a gentleman who had NEVER studied 9/11, but everything I said to him he knew it was completely true because, (as he stated) in his gut, he knew it was impossible for 19 guys with box cutters to attack our nation on such a huge level. I was telling him about WTC-7 and Larry Silverstein, and he had never heard of all of that, but his mouth was dropped-open because he KNEW it was all true.

I guarantee you he went home that evening and looked up WTC-7.

It's just sad that there aren't more Americans like him with common sense and balls enough to face the hard reality of it all. And because of that, we have a big chance of falling to a tyranny on a global scale.

Thanks to all you deniers, we'll all be licking boots very soon.

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"well, I think he was asking

"well, I think he was asking about who was ultimately to blame and whether or not it deserves more investigation. There was one investigation they spent a lot of money, and very extensive, and I think he indicated they didn't mention the third building that went down.Government investigations, as a general rule aren't very good. because when the government does it, they generally protect the government and whether it's investigating 911, Ruby Ridge, Waco they tend more to be cover ups than anything else. Truth is , I don't know exactly all that transpired. I don't know if anybody knows the absolute truth, but there's reason to be very suspect of what happened and I am more convinced that the 911 commission report did ignore some very important things like the third building, as well as why those numerous Arabs from Saudi Arabia,with the name of Bin Laden get to go home, when none of us were allowed on airplanes. "

That's what Paul said.
And sure, it would be nice to know why a building that didn't take a direct hit, would also fall. Even if it was extensively damaged on one side, and was burning inside, for a long time. It Should still have been included in the report.

My interpretation of this is that you should never let ANY entity investigate itself. They tend to hide their own stupidity.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

"probably never even speak about 9/11 again"

Please don't let them silence you. I think is is wise to choose carefully who you discuss it with, but don't ever keep quiet, they will win if you do.

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ok, I'll check it out

BTW they attacked us with planes, not boxcutters.
The people inside the planes were attacked with boxcutters.

Big events can start at a very small level..for example:

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

I respect, love, and appreciate Ron Paul

But if we disagree on this one subject I'm ok with that. I'm not campaigning anymore. If he wants me to work for him things will be different. But until then I represent ME and the truth as best as I can see it. Your distraction means nothing to me
Nor anyone else on this educated forum. You fail.

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Aku Soku Zan

Well then your movement is based on "faith" and not logic

The way you truthers keep believing the unbelievable in the face of logic and facts tells me one thing: it is a religion/cult based on faith.

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BBag...

...thanks for posting.

Hey you post a very

Hey num-nuts you post a very lengthy article that says Dr. Paul isn't a "truther", well who didn't know that already, YOU?. He did say that their should be an new independent investigation to see if there was "ineptness" on the part of the Government. Hell that is all anyone is saying. Lets have a new independent investigation and see what it uncovers, Ineptness, fore-knowledge/complacency or actual involvemnet.
Enough discrepencies in the Official 911 Commission Report has come to light in the 7 years since 911 to warrant a new investigation.
The one thing I would really like to see revealed are the camera tapes from the Pentagon itself, Hotel and Service station across the street. showing a 757 hitting the Pentagon.
Funny to me how their were FBI agents grabbing tapes from the Hotel and Service station 5 minutes after the incident.
Not to mention the unscathed Passport of Al Suqami found at the Trade Center and the ID card found at the Pentagon. But even though the passport and the ID card had a snow ball's chance in hell of surviving the WTC and Pentagon meltdown, ABC News and the Associated Press quickly jumped on the story, with accounts running on September 12 and 16 of 2001, telling America essentially the passport discovery was proof positive Osama bin Laden's gang outfoxed the mighty U.S. military.
By the way, I'm a "truther" and have never said Dr. Paul believed it was an inside job. Could it be that the people who say he believes it's an inside job are dis-info scum?

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911 Truth Is What Ends The Wars

The issues of 911 Truth are unfinished, and I think it will be coming up in the future trials of Guantanamo Bay prisoners. I would not be surprized to find the US is charged for 911 being an inside job by another nation who with a globalist agenda.

http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/911truthstatement.html

Interesting how the NWO is behind 911 Truth isn't it?

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I'd respect Dr. Paul more...

if his response had gone something like this, "While I disagree with the '911 Truthers," AMONGST WHOM THERE ARE MANY CREDIBLE EXPERTS," I cannot deny that three slow moving, unarmed aircraft hit their intended, critical targets, killing over 3,000 people, when the United States has spent hundreds of billions, if not trillions, since the establishment of NORAD over 50 years ago. I am disturbed that the Bush Administration, the Congress AND YOU IN THE FOURTH ESTATE, have not expressed outrage at the utter ineptitude of those involved in this fiasco. NO ONE was fired, demoted or prosecuted for their inaction, yet YOU express more outrage at those who question, "Why?"

Seeing Dr. Paul's response to a questioner on Morton Downey Jr.'s show in the 1980s, I know he is capable of just this kind of response. Now, why don't those of you that regularly bash "truthers" stop trying to divide a movement that is clearly much bigger than Dr. Paul?

Ron Paul Supports A New Investigation

That is all he needs to do. Leave others to provide the details.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

Why do people

insist on hammering him about this. And why do people insist on hammering so called truthers about this. Could it be because the government actually had a whole lot to do with it? Resistance always strengthens the opposite viewpoint. So they are defeating their purpose. Dr. Paul has called for an independent investigation. That is all I care about.

.....ball-less sycophant.............

What Dr Paul said in no way indicates he is a believer in the 911 fairy tale (the government explanation that ballbag here wants everyone to think Dr Paul subscribes too).

There are plenty of quotes of his that are an attempt to distance himself from the crazies: he was running for office. Its called "discretion", numbnuts.

Im not claiming he "secretly thinks" it was an inside job. Every one of these quotes were attempts to trip up Dr Paul and to trick him into associating himself with truthers, to discredit him in the media )(and here you are parroting it. Coincidence?). He handled himself just fine. But here you are assembling these quotes into "proof" that Ron Paul believes in the official story just like Obama or Bush.

THere were lots of people, labeling themselves "truthers" and acting crazy as shit, that he had to distance himself from. Just like there are people here at the DP who are not what they claim to be.

Why not include some of the many quotes of his where he speaks about false flags? I guess that would go against your goal of misdirection, and demonizing people that question the fact that the official story claims WTC7 went down due to FIRE.

You can quote Dr. Paul all day long, and you can suck the governents dick all you want (and swallow every last drop of that propaganda, you ball-less sycophant). But fuck you for expecting the rest of us to.

Well put.

Well put.

911 Was an Inside Job

Since when do politicians speak the truth 100% of the time? While obviously I respect Ron Paul, perhaps he doesn't believe it was an inside job. Perhaps he doesn't care. Perhaps if Ron Paul came out of the closet and admitted to being a "truther" than it would be political suicide. I really don't give a crap if Ron Paul believes 911 was an inside job or not. I do not agree with everything that Ron Paul states. I do not follow Ron Paul like a sheep. The evidence is irrefutable that the governments official conspiracy theory that 19 terrorists perpetrated the attacks on September 11, 2001 holds no water with me after hours and days and weeks of research on the matter.

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this is one of those arguments that needs to go away

We can feel we were not given the truth about 9/11. We can go hog wild out on that limb as far out as we want to go, but recognize he cannot. He's playing the game, so honor him doing what he needs to do to be where he is and make a difference. Remember they still talk on TV like JFK was killed by harvey oswald when we all know how ridiculous that is. He's in a system where the lies are truth and truth is treason.

I know he knows there is more to it, he just can't publicly say a thing. He would be committing professional suicide. The news would be all over him and it would hurt the movement as a whole. We have nothing to lose by believing the truth and being open about it, he doesn't have that luxury. Why must people back him in a corner. I'm with him. I know he can't align himself with the truth movement so stop trying to force his hand, he won't cave; he can't.

Pick your battles; that's the answer to those in the 9/11 truth movement. He has to pick his battles and until we get more Liberty minded politicians in Washington, until then we don't dare go there.

How many do we have maybe five? Just be patient, our time will come.

"He's playing the game, so

"He's playing the game, so honor him doing what he needs to do to be where he is and make a difference."

Exactly. The man was running for office. But this article isnt about Ron Paul. Its about somebodies beef with "911 truth", and admonishes anyone who questions the official story.

As if the official story isnt full of holes like a sponge. Im sure there are those who would prefer the people didnt question their governement. Could you call such a person a patriot?

(HINT: see definition for "sycophant")

Then why can't you defend your hypothesis?

Ha! Saying that those of us here who don't believe truthers somehow "don't question our government" is just preposterous. It isn't about that. It's about disproving irrational theories.

Every time I watch you truthers try to defend your theories it is cringe-worthy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7tMHMQ863Q

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