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Did George W. Bush save us from another 9/11?

At the U.S. Army War College in Carlisle, Penn., President Bush triumphantly proclaimed, "There can be no debate about the results [of my decisions] in keeping America safe." According to the president, the fact that America has not been attacked again since Sept. 11, 2001, is "not a matter of luck" – rather, "it's the result of tough decisions that we began making immediately after September the 11th."

Certainly there can be no debate that President Bush started a war against Iraq – the centerpiece of his Global War on Terrorism, or GWOT – with a price tag of $500 billion and counting. There is no debate that he ushered in the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, a new bureaucratic behemoth that has so far cost taxpayers over $280 billion since its inception in 2003. And there is no debate that the Bush administration fostered an environment where constitutional rights can be ignored in the name of counter-terrorism, such as warrantless eavesdropping on U.S. citizens and random searches of subway passengers without probable cause in New York and Washington, D.C. And while it's true – thankfully – that the United States has not suffered another terrorist attack, whether any of these actions have anything to do with that is debatable.
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Bush totally kept us safe

Remember how in 2000 into early 2001, there were terrorists everywhere crawling around like Black Bart and his gang. They were hanging off street lights in some cases there were so many. Oh yeah, we had a serious problem with terrorism. Bush has kept us safe homehow, it's amazing.

Hey, Mike Lawson,

Did you just see "A Christmas Story"? Just wondering...I've got my Red Ryder BB gun, and I'm ready to fend off the bad guys! ;)

AlixH

That was exactly what I envisioning

The backyard scene. "You won this time, Ralph"

Another 9/11 will happen...

...because the CIA, MOSSAD, and the string-pullers of the world will decide that the "next level of restraint" is needed in America. There were NO hijackers, there is NO Al-Quaida, there are NO Islamic terrorists that want to kill us all. It's all part of the propaganda and media-controlled brainwashing to keep us afraid of "something" so that we'll look to our government for protection, furthering the dependency. Same recipe that Stalin used, then Mussolini, then Hitler...history repeats and the Sheeple are idiots. Apparently, 'Dancing With the Stars' and the 'Bachelor' are more important than being soverign and free.

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'No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.'
-- Samuel Adams (letter to James Warren, 4 November 1775)

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Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

this kind of thinking is ridiculous isn't one 9/11 enough?

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

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people have a short memory...

its the nature of american politics...

i mean, the dems chose kerry four years ago, right? who could have been worse than that?

now look at 'em...

doesn't this "story" EVER get old? the lesser of two evils? both backed by the CFR?

...while america slept...what a tragedy!

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Worst President in US history.

At least until January 20th. I notice they seem to get progressively worse with every administration.

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Actually he decided "NOT" to stage another one .

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exactly

big leap to believe he could save us from such a SUPERMAN as OBL. who could knock out 4 bldgs. with 3 planes; penetrate the most defended bldg. in the world; all without any warning signs.

Oh puhleez!

What a pant load.

As another poster points out, Osama accomplished his goal. It has yet to reach total fruition, but it will before long.

It was an ENORMOUS effort for a bunch of ignorant goat herders to accomplish 9/11. It took a decade of planning, lots of money, and a bunch of people to essentially dedicate their lives to the mission. And maybe more than a little cooperation from certain elements in our own government.

Bush's idiotic security measures may have made it slightly more difficult for them to accomplish the identical act using airplanes, but the number of ways in which suicidal terrorists could still easily commit mayhem here if they wanted to are endless.

There have been no further terrorist acts because the terrorists chose not to stage any.

This is really like the war on drugs in this sense - there is no way to accurately measure either the extent of the threat or the success in preventing it. If border agents don't confiscate any pot in a year, they can say it is because they have discouraged smuggling. If they confiscate a bunch of it, they can trumpet their success at interdiction. It can be manipulated in any way that suits the government.

If you want to measure the success of Bush's anti-terrorism effort, look at how many REAL terrorists have been indicted. Other than that retarded street gang that was entrapped into spewing some conspiratorial remarks, I think the total is zero.

And if you want to measure the negative effect, go take a poll in the Middle East and ask whether we, as a country, are more well liked now or less. We all know what the answer will be. Hell, even I like us less!

Al-Qaeda did not need to attack us again.

They accomplished pretty much what they wanted. O B L wanted the U.S. to overreact and get itself into a military quagmire to bleed the U.S. financially. Strategically they have no reason to attack the U.S. homeland until, or if, the U.S. withdraws forces from Afghanistan and Iraq.

I agree

The terrorist event of New York 11 September 2001, and the terror event of Madrid on 11 March 2004, and other terror events commonly connected to Islam, are clearly not related to Islam if we consider that the Al-Qaeda terror organization was established by the C.I.A in the 1980s. Al-Qaeda is nothing but a conveniently "Islamic" front which enables the C.I.A. to commit crimes in the name of Muslims. It is well known that the Mujahadeen terrorists of Afghanistan were organized, trained and funded by the C.I.A. using the Pakistani ISI as a "cut-out" in order to lure the Soviet Army into Afghanistan at the end of 1979. The Mujahedeen can be seen as C.I.A. terrorism with an islamic name and "islamic" perpetrators. Afghanistan has, for all purposes, been destroyed by these fanatics in furtherance of American interests.

The Al-Qaeda terror organization has caused immense damage to Islam, to Moslems worldwide and to the interests of the peoples of all Arab and Muslim countries. The actions of Al-Qaeda have only served to promote the interests of the U.S. and Israel, which are clearly interested in "reshaping" the Middle East in such a way that they can more easily rape and plunder the region at will.

In fact the C.I.A is using the terrorist actions of its proxy Al-Qaeda in order to give the U.S. an excuse to extend their power into and invade the Arab countries, first countries with rich plunder (Oil) like Iraq, Iran, Saudia Arabia, and second any country which is a "threat" to Israel, or more exactly which Israel dislikes for whatever reason. The third objective for which the C.I.A. is using its proxy Al-Qaeda is to engender fear and hate of Islam and Muslims worldwide. This corresponds to an old and tried ploy of colonizers: to slander and denigrate the target population so that it is acceptable and even called for to commit genocide against them. The peoples of Ireland, Africa and the Americas have all suffered this tragedy, and these regions have been colonized. The next obvious victims are Arabs and Muslims by extension because they live in geographic areas rich in oil and other resources, and because Muslims as a collective are not white enough to be respected as full humans by the criminals in London, Washinton and Tel Aviv.

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

You tell a good story 86theFed

but where's your proof. Do you have any, other than the Robin Cook debunked quote?

I could say the same for you oh brother of liberty...

When you take into consideration that Al CIA duh is the new boogie man and that fear of it is being packaged and sold to the public to allow further surrendering of liberty then the narrative of Al CIA duh in the news takes on a new meaning.

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

No, you can't say the same to me.

You are the one making the claims. You are the one who has to provide the proof, not I. That whole post was your opinion, but you state it like it is a fact. The claims in my post are taken from O.B.L. himself.

OBL is a CIA asset AKA TIM OSmund

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/01/afghanistan.terr...

We are both making claims my friend... I have my position and you have yours. The difference is that yours support the narrative of the CCPM and the government and mine do not.

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

What are you saying????

That only if the U.S. withdrawals from Afganistan and/or Iraq... OBL will come out from under the bed and yell "BOO" again? Is that what you think?

If the U.S. withdraws from Iraq and Afghanistan,

Al-Qaeda's grievances are still there, of course. I should have added that Al-Qaeda will also want to attack the U.S. homeland before the U.S. withdraws from Iraq or Afghanistan. They want the U.S. to stay there for as long as possible, until it collapses in financial ruin, and is no longer able or willing to intervene in Middle Eastern affairs. O.B.L. believes this strategy will work on the U.S. just as he believes it worked on the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. As long as the U.S. supports Middle Eastern regimes with either financial aid, diplomatic and political support, or military protection, it will remain the prime target of Al-Qaeda. O.B.L. wants the U.S. out of the way. His main enemies are the Al-Saud family in Saudi Arabia, the Mubarak regime in Egypt, and Israel.

Attack the U.S. "Homeland"?

Uh, it's simply "U.S."

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

Yes, I know that.

I wanted to be clear. Al-Qaeda attacked the U.S. before, but not the homeland until 9/11. They attacked our embassies in Africa and the U.S.S. Cole.

Just the fact that you use the word "Homeland" shows you are a

dupe...Why don't you do like the good Germans did and call it the Fatherland.

So do you care to tell us why the FBI hasn't formally charged Usama Bin Laden with the crime of 9/11?
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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne

Fuck off Jefferson

You have now taken over the top spot as the biggest fucking asshole on DP. You are the one who behaves like a Nazi pushing your 9/11 Truth bullshit. You also believe in conspiracies perpetrated by a secret elite cabal, just like Hitler. What a coincidence? If I was a Truther like you, and did not believe in coincidences, I would think you are a Nazi.

What should I have called it, in my above post, other than the homeland? Let me know dipshit.

I already answered your question on another thread.

Since I answered your question, explain this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HLDgjYuRHk

I want you to stop take a

I want you to stop take a deep breath and think for yourself without ego or agenda. If a structure is leaning or damaged on one side and is going to collapse why then does it not follow the path of least resistance? The facts are that it didn't it fell straight into the reaming support columns.

This also happened at WTC 2 when then upper section began to fall away at the initiation and then disintegrated.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp4.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp5.html

What do you see in this photograph of the WTC2 destruction? A perfect circular shock wave? I do and many others in the field of explosives do as well.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp8.html

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

He conveniently left....

Guess the good German had a neighborhood watch meeting to go to.

Here are some visual references for when Heir Dumbassisatthegate returns.

Video: Building falls over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm9uNfAJ9G4

And, another one...
http://www.break.com/index/building-in-india-falls-over.html

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne

You know that 99% of the people here don't belive the official

story, right? I personally have decided to stop arguing with these people who think the official story is scripture. Do you ever notice that they NEVER have anything to agree with? They are trolls, it's how they get their jollies or paychecks. Just a thought for everybody who wastes time arguing with one of these guys--you'll never turn one.

You're right....

I occasionally fall into this trap. Thanks for throwing me a line, Mike.
As I said before, Somebody could smack this guy in the face with a 2 x 4 , and he'd swear it was a flyswatter.
This douchebag isn't smart enough to get a paycheck. His constant use of the word "truther" just shows he has a high school mentality. I think he is sincere in his willful ignorance, not just trolling.
Please, if I waste my time again on this twirp, (or any of the like) PLEASE stop me...

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne

Guess I touched a nerve there ,eh?

I would rather have the title of biggest asshole, than the most ignorant dupe on the DP. You are CLEARLY in the minority here, and you continue to spew your idiocy. You're a joke.
As long as we are passing 9/11 fireman videos, why don't you explain this one where a Lieutenant ADMITS they were going to "take down" building 7.

FDNY Lieutenant Admitted Plan To ‘Take Down’ WTC 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KQA1KOKrPc&eurl=http://www.i...
No comment? I didn't think so....

BTW It's Usama , not OSAMA Or is the FBI wrong too?

You are a willfully ignorant skid mark on the underwear of life. No different than the 1933 Germans. Ignorant twit.....
Now be a good little German, and go join Obama's Civilian Brigade...
You would make a good snitch.
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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne

MOCKINGBIRD: The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/mockingbi...
"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

Everything you are saying is

Everything you are saying is correct as reported by our corporate controlled propaganda machine.

There is more credible evidence that the embassy bombing and the Cole attack were blamed on Al CIA duh to support the coming War of Terror initiated by the 9/11 false flag. Open your eyes oh brother of liberty.

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"credible evidence"

Post it here.

What corporate controlled propaganda machine reports what I stated? The media does not state O.B.L.'s strategy, or that we are playing into it. The media does not talk about blowback. The media does not talk about the oppression in Egypt and Saudi Arabia that breeds terrorists. They do talk about how the U.S. supports those regimes and thus supports that oppression, which creates resentment and hatred toward the U.S.