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911 Video evidence... What does this video say to you?

9/11 Video evidence... What does this video say to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HLDgjYuRHk



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Psst

Hey horatiusatthegate, when ya gonna knock off the masquerade?

When are the Truthers going to stop trying to turn this into a

9/11 Truth movement? If you are going to post your so-called facts and theories, I will offer a rebuttal, so those who are undecided on the subject, can hear both sides. Truthers have been posting the same debunked information non stop for over a year now on DP. What would be the purpose of doing that other than an attempt to turn the Liberty movement into a 9/11 Truth movement?

I'm Just Speakin' About Your Personal Life

You don't own the Daily Paul.

You don't own the "liberty movement" or Revolution.

Neither do the Truthers

So your little cult should stop acting like you do.

Truthers are a Detriment to The Freedom and Prosprerity Movement

They found a place to hitch their wagon and are running everyone into a ditch.

9/11 was simply the fruit of bad government, no matter which side has the "TRUTH".

Socialists are Everywhere

hey john.

Did you ever think that the Truthers are the only ones with balls to stand up to the Tyrannical government we are facing in the first place.

You simply need to wake up a bit and see who's on your side.

Find out if you have a local militia - http://www.uaff.us/

Real Patriots for 9/11 truth -- http://patriotsquestion911.com/

So that means...

Ron Paul doesn't have any balls to stand up to tyrannical government?

I *know* who's on my side.

It's the idiocy of these sweeping statements that you make, Oruval, that really shows your true colors.

Forge..

you wouldn't hold a candle to the man I am were we in the same room together.

My true colors are that of truth.

Sweeping statements.. I would mop the floor with you son.

Find out if you have a local militia - http://www.uaff.us/

Real Patriots for 9/11 truth -- http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Ah, another example!

Oruval's true colors:

-"Truth"
-Sweeping and idiotic statements that insult Ron Paul
-Insults
-Personal attacks

what else can I add to the list?

amen

.

And ignorant "flat earthers" are a cancer upon this earth.

They are the reason we are in the shape we are in, because they refused to question authority.

__________________________________________
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne

Has anyone seen this? It's a

Has anyone seen this? It's a skyscraper that gets imploded. Sounds and looks oddly familiar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFqSL5hTnGs

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"Whether you listen to the left side of congress' mouth or the rightside, either way it's the same mouth"

Yawn

Bore me a river with the incessant whining.

Socialists are Everywhere

Must be nice to know

Must be nice to know everything you condescending little prick... man you should listen to yourself.

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

The Morph Effect in Action

"Poor me, they are calling me a truther." (morph into victim)

"You Prick!" (back to Bully)

You are textbook pathological.

Captain Kangaroo did it!

Socialists are Everywhere

moooo moooo big boy!

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

Hmmm...I guess about as much as this one....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zyjY05wzao&feature=related

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

These firemen apparently don't count, melgesman.

Only ding dong's firemen count, don't change the subject, which is based on FDNY eyewitness accounts. Wait, I'm confused...$)

__________________________________________
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne

Nice way to try to change the subject melgesman.

You can't even attempt an explanation??

Explan what?

Some firefighter's opinion? Why don't you explain the guys from the video that I posted? I could post lots more opinion if you'd like. Much of it by eye witnesses in the buildings who talked of explosions. Those "opinions" are certainly better than mine and will certainly outweigh this shit that you put forward.

The reality is...it serves no purpose. You are paid to believe what you want to...

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

In response

"A video is shown on just about every conspiracy web site which shows a few fireman discussing what they heard and saw.

fireman2: We made it outside, we made it about a block.
fireman1: We made it at least 2 blocks.
fireman2: 2 blocks.
fireman1: and we started runnin'
fireman2: poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch
fireman1: Floor by floor it started poppin' out …
fireman2: It was as if as if they had detonated, det…
fireman1: yea detonated yea
fireman2: as if they had planned to take down a building,
boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom…
In the context of reading it off a conspiracy site, this may sound like damning evidence. They are saying “detonated” and “they had planned to take down a building”. They even say “Boom” to describe the sound. But if you hear the other things they’re saying, their body language and context outside the conspiracy theory setting, something else emerges. Before or after every description is “As if”. “As if they had planned to take down a building”. “It was as if as if they had detonated”. They also use body language to show it was the sound of the floors crashing into one another.

boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom…
This could be just as powerful evidence of pancaking as the use of explosives. But the real evidence isn’t so much examining the video as examining the actions taken, or NOT taken, by the NYC Fire Department after the event. The NYC Fire Department hasn’t rallied its members to force an investigation into the possible murder of over 300 of its members. Some sites offer an explanation of this saying there was a gag order placed on the Fire Department. The only place you will find this is on conspiracy theory sites. No mention from main stream press about the hundreds if not thousands of fireman on the scene not being allowed to talk."
http://www.debunking911.com/quotes.htm

Concerning your eye witnesses:

John Schroeder & Secondary Explosions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJpsxQ3UI30

WTC Lobby & Basement Explosions Explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRCTkSJOViY

WTC Accounts of Bombs & Explosions Explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hBDXB6cifo

Go ahead and dismiss the firefighter and what he says, since it contradicts your "theory" or your so called "facts". That is a standard Truther tactic.

Thanx for the linx, horati

So much data, so little time....

I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior.--Hippolyte Taine

Oh yeah...

The old..."oh they're wonderful heros, but they are obviuously mistaken in their observations". Yeah, you must be right...they gotta be mistaken about what they saw and experienced.

Holy shit you dumb truther's "as if" was said. What an idiot. It is of course impossible to think that most of us (including my highly pissed off self) would have never considered governmental (or cabal) duplicity on that day...being caught up in all of the "known" information that was spewed out at pre-determined intervals...some of which were overridden into major fuck-ups by the conspirators...like BLDG 7 collapse notification by ground crews and news crews alike. And Jennings was what? A liar?

I guess you have the same debunk for the two police officers, the mechanic and the gas station attendant at the Citgo? Or might you have something more "believable" like genetic dizziness or directional dyslexia? Oh wait, that testimony also assumes "mistaken observation" of a plane hitting the pentagon so either it applies here or doesn't apply anywhere.

Also the NTSB's trajectory not matching testimony nor pilot activity regarding the resetting of altimeters...

bite me.

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

Information Warfare: Ideas as Weapons in the Era of Deception

At the core of the September 11, 2001 attack is a series of stupendous lies, including:

* That jet impacts and fires induced the mammoth steel-framed Twin Towers to explode into dust and shards of steel long after the impacts.
* That fires caused 47-story steel-framed Building 7 to implode with all the features of a standard controlled demolition.
* That Islamic terrorists hijacked four jetliners with knives and flew them all over the Northeast for nearly two hours without encountering any resistance from the trillion-dollar US Air Force.
* That top officials and Bush's Secret Service detail remained unaware that the country was under attack long after it began to be broadcast on TV worldwide.

Adding to the absurdity of the official story are facts such as:

* The responsible commanders were promoted after the attack.
* The evidence from collapses of the WTC skyscrapers -- the largest and most unanticipated structural failures in world history according to the official explanation -- was destroyed as rapidly as possible.
* Only $600,000 was allocated to study the collapses before the steel had been recycled, and the all-volunteer investigators were barred from the site.
* There has not been a single successful prosecution of any of the supposed perpetrators anywhere in the world for direct involvement in the attack.

How could such glaring red flags be ignored by the vast majority of Americans, and indeed most people throughout the world? To grasp how this is possible it is helpful to understand the history and sophistication of the "weapons of mass deception" that are used regularly to achieve the aims that the powerful could not attain through legitimate means.

There are many examples of intentional deceptions that, unlike the Big Lie of 9/11/01, are widely recognized, such as the specter of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction concocted by the administrations of George W. Bush and Tony Blair as a pretext to invade Iraq. Other less contemporary examples are described on this site under Historical Precedents for 9/11/01. With each operation, the perpetrators gain more experience about how the news media and the public will react -- experience useful in the planning of subsequent operations. For example, despite reports in local news outlets that responders to the Oklahoma City bombing discovered unexploded bombs inside the building, national media reports remained free of any mention of such contradictions to the official story. It is likely that the success of the cover-up of this operation emboldened the planners of the 9/11/01 attack.

The September 11, 2001 attack was not only bolder than previous attacks, it also likely involved the most careful planning of any psychological operation ever undertaken. We can see in its design and cover-up multiple layers of deception: should the outermost layer be exposed as fraudulent, the deeper layers will serve to continue to obscure the truth. Broadly speaking, there are three layers of cover-up:

* The mainstream official story: This is the story as told by the mainstream media since the day of the attack.
* The "limited hangouts": These are revelations that seem shocking to adherents to the official story, but fall far short of the whole truth. Examples are the many warnings of the attack that the administration should have acted on.
* The "poison pills": These are extreme ideas that have either no basis in evidence or only an illusory one and serve to discredit evidence-based research about the core facts of the attack through guilt-by-association. Examples are the no-planes and pod-planes ideas popularized by propaganda such as In Plane Site, and racist ideas like "the Jews did it."

Remarkably, it appears that the vast majority of propaganda supporting all three layers of deception was produced, not by attack insiders, but by people exploited by the perpetrators using psychological engineering. The perpetrators are apparently highly expert at designing memes that effectively recruit people to unwittingly support such diversions from the true nature of the attack.
http://www.911review.com/infowars.html

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

LOL

and I'm the one who gets accused of cutting and pasting too much. That's all you do 86.

"No mention from main stream press"

Yeah, Ron Paul didn't get any mention from the MSM either.
Your faith in the " main stream press" once again shows your ignorance.

__________________________________________
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne

This looks like a video

of you - a pre-planted disinfo agent. He looks like he is lying to me and doesn't believe a word he is saying.

I am gross and perverted, I'm obsessed and deranged, I have existed for years but very little has changed, I'm the tool of the government and industry too. Have you guessed me yet??
I'm the slime oozing out from your TV set.

Great explanation finster

How long did it take for you to come up with that? You're a joke. EVERYONE is a disinfo agent. Sure....

It says that the explosives

It says that the explosives used over compensated so the building could fall directly into its own footprint.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/wtc7/demolition.html

Otherwise the resistance would have allowed the building to perform more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c&feature=related

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

Full of IT

Now you claim that "truther" is derogatory, maybe you are now morphing into victim?

Its standard MO for any bully when caught to morph into a "victim"... Ohhh poor me, no one is bullied by my antics so I will now morph into a victim..so cliche'.

Get a life.

Most "truthers" accept the moniker "truther" it is not derogatory, just a whining mechanism devised by you.

http://www.911truth.org/

Too late to whine about your label now:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=truther

Socialists are Everywhere