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Mental Preparedness

I have ranted and raved about mental illness drugs like a crazy woman... lol! I have a very serious concern that I am just going to share with you folks. Mr. Lawson discusses the impending confusion, and I suspect he is quite correct. There is an aspect of this that I have never seen discussed, I hope you all will consider all the implications and do what you can.

The ssri's cause people to change the way they think. In this society where we are bombarded with more information than we can effectively process, the relief from thinking feels good. That is why the drugs "work." Ask people who are HAPPY with their therapy to describe how it helps them. They will use a positive spin, but essentially they will tell you the same thing as people like me: These drugs make the mind numb. Depression goes away because you don't care enough about anything to be depressed. During the brief period when I thought the drugs were "working" for me, the cat I had for 10 years got sick. I decided to let it die, didn't want to bother going to the vet. I know you don't know me, but that is NOT me. (My husband saved the cat, and eventually me.)

When the economy tanks, one of the first things people do is cut expenses. Drugs for mood disorders will seem a good place to cut corners to a lot of people, and therein lies an impending disaster. The only thing nastier than being on these drugs and having a bad reaction is coming off these drugs and having a bad reaction. They are so hard to withdraw from that that you are supposed to shave a tiny piece of your pill, increasing the portion by nearly microscopic amounts, over the course of a year. How many suddenly poor people will do that? How many will even know they ought to? What is possible when you drop these meds suddenly? Please feel free to do your own research, but I will summarize my findings: People become psychotic, suicidal and homicidal behavior is common during a sudden withdrawal from the drugs.

Satistical information on how widespread the use of these drugs are:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/04news/hus04.htm

Thursday, December 2, 2004

"Adult use of antidepressants almost tripled between 1988-1994 and
1999-2000. Ten percent of women 18 and older and 4 percent of men now
take antidepressants."
If you have family members on them, and you intend to shelter with them, you may want to be sure they understand all of this NOW.

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I worry that not many here

will read your great post.

I truly admire your energy and passion for spreading information that is vital to so many of us.

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A friend sent me this link

A friend sent me this link to three ten minute videos on psychotropic drugs, the FDA, psychiatrists and the scam that is destroying millions of people's lives for profit. http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/527.html

Pat

BOHICA!!

Pat

BOHICA!!

Alternative Therapies are available

In a country where our current health system has chosen profit over 'do no harm', we need to look outside our tradition for answers. I have seen acupuncture do amazing things for drug addicts and Chinese medecine is just as valid a meicinal system as ours in the USA, along with many other ancient forms of medecine. I would suggest Americans start looking for systems of medecine where empowering the individual to heal him/herself should be the top priority. This is more beneficial than using drugs as an excuse to not learn how to live a healthy life. Acupuncture is effective and has no side effects. The reason it hasn't been accepted in the USA is because there is no marketable product (and thus, no corporate profit) involved with acupuncture, since humans are actually more self aware and learn to take care of themselves. Check it out. www.TAI.edu

Mind drugs.

When my husband died after being in a coma for 10 years, I was grieving and in such a depressed state that my doctor put me on an anti-depressent and the last 5 weeks that I have been off of them have been such a relief to me, I am not depressed as I was on the medication I have much more energy, care about what is going on around me, you are right, I went through a time when I did not even want to get out of bed, get out of the house, did not want to eat, these pills should be banned, because they make the situation worst, I finally realized that we all have problems that we must deal with them, and when we are medicated then we are just putting off dealing with them.

Is It Just Me?

Anybody else notice the similarities with "quick fixes" between behavioral drugs and our monetary system? Solve the actual problem? No, too much work. A magic pill will fix it for now. The trouble comes when you start getting side-effects (or blowback) and the original problem mounts over time -- like inflation from printing money. After the quick-fix starts loosing it's effectiveness, it becomes very tempting to think you can tinker and perfect it to keep it going. After all, it worked so far right? But in the long-run the problem is not solved and new ones are created.

I advise everyone that is on, or knows anybody that is on, any behavioral or psychotropic drugs, especially the SSRI's, to do some serious research on them as they are extremely dangerous, especially the withdrawal effects. Know what you are putting in your body. Drug companies and doctors often downplay the dangers, for obvious reasons. They are making a lot of money. Some of you might even be surprised to find out that pretty much every kid that went and shot up a school was either on or withdrawing from one or more of these psychotropic drugs. Those that are familiar with the side-effects (such as mania and suicide) though will not likely be surprised.

On the other hand,

anti-depressants may not be so bad for some. I'm dealing with a circumstance now, and finding the study of philosophy and religion helps me a great deal (reciting things like the Serenity Prayer, and Rudyard Kippings IF, et.) , others around me are not so fortunate.

Some people are reactionary, make judgments in the tiny scope of the context of the moment with no long-term perspective, and are apt to panic and despair.

Better to have someone drugged or numb in an emergency than hysterical.

Sooner or later, people ought to grow up or wise up. And doctors have no desire to refer patience to sources of common sense when their pharmaceutical salesmen are sending them on Caribean vacations for perscribing drugs.

There are many miracle plants kept hidden from the public

One of which cures addiction to most anything is the Iboga plant, aka Ibogaine from the forests of Africa. African tribes have taken it for spiritual healing properties and brain cell-rejuvenation for centuries. It is legal in Canada and most of Europe but in the USA it falls under The War on Plants (aka Competition to Big Pharma, unable to patent it).

You would either have to go to Canada or pay $8000+ to go to a clinic in Mexico if you are in USA.

Being told it takes a year to wean off of a pharma drug is way too long. It could be done in 4 to 6 weeks -- or a lot less with Ibogaine.

Another miracle cure for lethargy and depression is *exercise* -- yep, it works.

Don't forget -- the government *wants* you to be hooked on their "legal" toxic drugs. It makes you much weaker, dumber, unhealthier, dependent and easier to handle...

many controlled substances are controlled because they cure

Allopathic medicine profits when a tolerable level of illness is maintained, thus keeping a patient addicted to the treatment for the maximum amount of time.
The doctors are good people doing the best they can with the education they are given. They are taught to shut down at the mere suggestion of homeopathic or any wholistic therapy. It is quite sad, another example of good people doing good things, but the NWO got in and twisted the education / indoctrination system generations ago, and now good people will stake their reputations and lives to defend a lie.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

I read somewhere

that you have to wean off processed foods too, as your body has to adjust back. I think many people will be very sick when TSHTF. I have to start weaning (sp) my family off the crap now. I just keep putting it off.....

I think I am in the "pause" mode, you know when are to scared to move for a moment.

!!!Truth is treason in the EMPIRE OF LIES!!!

" Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of they day; but a series of oppresssions...pursued unalterably, through every change of ministers, too plainly proove delibrate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery..."
Tho

Realistically most people need to take these changes gradually.

Further excellent info for the raw message, www.health101.org and www.fredericpatenaude.com are a must visit and absorb. These are good 100% raw advocates - Don Bennett, health 101, calls himself a DAS, Disease Avoidance Specialist - he helps people do the raw lifestyle correctly and successfully. Frederic Patenaude is right on also - his book Raw Secrets is invaluable for people wanting to make a success of starting a 100% raw lifestyle - it is available as a download from his sight . . . for a price - it was really valuable to people I know when they were at the beginning of this path.

In the little bit of time I have right now, these are my thoughts: We need to stay in reality. Realistically most people need to take these changes gradually. 1st - The RAVE DIET, www.ravediet.com is the realistic place to start. RAVE is a catchy acronym No Refined Foods, No Animal Products, No Vegetable Oils, and No Exceptions and do Exercise. The RAVE DIET is available in a book that comes with an DVD. That same DVD "Eating Plus" is available separately too. If people can't do this, they haven't a chance of succeeding on 100% raw. 2) If they can do RAVE in general, then make the total switch to whole grains (brown rice, millet, and oatmeal) and fruit for calories - eliminate the nuts and seeds almost completely. A number of people speak to this. People who go this far will do very well and may not want to go completely raw. It certainly is a much better place than where they started. 3) gradually eat RAVE raw which will move them to Doug Graham's 80/10/10, www.foodnsport.com, which is what I think works over the long haul. As Doug says, the principles are so simple and the details are many. This requires people to learn and keep learning.

As I see it, the trick to eating healthily 100% raw is to eat enough and a wide variety of plants. The high priorities are Enough Calories of Nutrient Dense foods. Nutrient Density, Nutrients/Calorie, is a Joel Furhman term, www.drfurhman.com . By nutrients, he means micronutrients: vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients. Every affluent person has no trouble obtaining the macronutrients, protein-carbohydrate-fat. The problem we are having results from obtaining these macronutrients from nutrient poor foods and in the wrong proportions. AND the diet alone is not enough. Health depends heavily on the whole balance. The correct diet, however, helps us achieve in the other areas: Rest and Sleep, Exercise, Sunshine, and Emotional Peace.

From the thread "does anybody know about "the raw food diet"?
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/45622#comment-476012

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

Here is something that works

EFT - check this out - very powerful in many ways

Google Gary Craig - EFT

Seek & Ye Shall Find

Sonny

"You Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come"

Unfortunately I've been on a

Unfortunately I've been on a few SSRIs over the years. Never had problems getting off of them until the last time I stopped taking them.
I was on Wellbutrin and I tried to wean myself off and become suicidal. Needless to say it was Very Scary.

I went to the doctor to see if there was anything I could do to prevent the suicidal feelings. I had been on Wellbutrin to help me quit smoking, and since I had quit smoking I wanted to stop taking Wellbutrin.
The drug gives you serotonin which sounds great but your body stops producing it normally because it can just get it from the Wellbutrin. The doctor told me that there was no need to stop taking the medicine and that I could take it for the rest of my life with no problems. He continued that the real problem (me smoking) was corrected, and it was ok if I took Wellbutrin instead of smoking. I couldn't believe my ears!

After I told him I didn't want to be on any medicine I had to take daily, he brushed me off (that was the last time I went to him). It was hard, but I pressed on and got completely off of the drug.

Those drugs make things "easier" in the short term, but have major long term implications. I would never have gone on any of them knowing what I know now.
If you are on any of them, I would gradually stop taking them. Do some research and make sure you tell family and close friends what you are about to do. You may need there help.
If you are dealing with depression or trying to get off one of these SSRI drugs, there are natural remedies. Take lots of Niacin, B-vitamins, and raw cashews. Believe me, they work! Peace!

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"Whether you listen to the left side of congress' mouth or the right side, either way it's the same mouth"

thank you so much for telling your story

People need to hear it over and over before they will consider believing it. Your experience is not unique, it is the standard protocol. I could not get a doctor to help me get off them, I worked for a clinic that self-insured and so was very limited in choices. I took myself off. I knew a bit about tapering, so I tapered over 2 weeks. The following 2 years are pretty much a blur of suicide attempts, bizarre behavior, and an endless stream of vanishing friends. No one wants to help a crazy person who simply refuses to take the medicine that would make them better - that is how the entire world saw the situation except - and here is the exception that is why I am alive today - my husband and children stood beside me.
Don't like your ssri? Try another. Still not happy? Add abilify. Adjust the dose. Change the time of day. Anything but stop the drug, the doctors are trained to KEEP people on these. The rationale is sick: They are sure the "sick" people never get better, they simply "feel better" and so "deny their illness." Read Jane Pauley's moving little tale of her "unmasked" bipolar disorder - it is the typical crap. How is it that someone "masks" a debilitating mental disorder for the first forty years of their life, and the drug "unmasks" it? That is an effect of the drug, kids, plain and simple.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

thanks to both of you for sharing.

my husband is on one of these ssri's - and has been on them for about 10 years. I am going to have to do a lot of research and get him off of them.

!!!Truth is treason in the EMPIRE OF LIES!!!

" Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of they day; but a series of oppresssions...pursued unalterably, through every change of ministers, too plainly proove delibrate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery..."
Tho

All I need is my coffee and I'm good to go

NO WORLD GOVERNMENT!!!!

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.

Good grief, if tobacco

Good grief, if tobacco becomes unavailable there will be a lot of people who are totally irrational for weeks.

This might be a good time to investigate drug alternatives, such as essential oils or other natural products that may be less expensive and help people through the hard times.

Pat

BOHICA!!

Pat

BOHICA!!

good point!

Addictions are nasty, any way you slice them. I am NOT looking forward to the caffeine withdrawal headache, should that day come! And the day we run out of chocolate could be grim...

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Excellent post

http://godshealingword.org/Recorded_Webcasts.html

This is concern that's been on my mind and it's valid. There are serious consequences when people stop taking these drugs cold turkey.
The following is an audio webcast with some intense info from Dr Tracy, on the spiritual nature of pharmaceuticals.

This is christian based, but the info is spot on regardless of your personal spiritual beliefs. The first part is on the biblical view of sorcery and pharmachea and then it goes into info about what these do to a person and what happens when they come off abuptly and how the pharm company WANTS every person hooked on at least 2 drugs.

As the days get more uncertain and supplies are harder to get, Paul4won is correct, these will be among the first things to dissapear from the average house hold. We need to understand this.

I was on a low dosage anti-depressant for a few years myself. After starting to dig in and understand I began to wean myself from this dependancy. There are healthy ways to do this. We're all in this together, the better informed we are the better chance of surival not only for us but how to deal with our loved ones who refuse to hear the truth now.

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"Whether you listen to the left side of congress' mouth or the rightside, either way it's the same mouth"

Bravo!

There is so many aspects to this thread I hope it makes front page. Just learning the truth can send us into a depression even without the use of drugs. I saw a documentary on PBS about the conflict in Isreal and how both sides the people you can see are depressed and terrified. We don't have any of that going on yet and I am already depressed and afraid. What the heck I gotta get a grip this is just starting. Getting the right frame of mind is vital so we can help ourselves and others.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

What did the guy always say at the end of "Quantum Leap?"

"Oh Boy"

I suppose when they say on the news "depression" they don't even realize they're only telling part of the real picture.

this is a great thread and an important part of the puzzle. Thank you (loving that original source data too :))