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CAFR reports - has Ron Paul ever talked about this??

how does this fit in to the scheme of today economy? has Peter Schiff ever talked about this?

http://cafr1.com/

Update 1-11-2009

from the horses mouth

Troy:

The off-shore (outside of SEC and CFTC oversight are set up primarily as redemption pool participation funds) used derivatives at the top going "short" with massive positions. Then here in the USA, the physical holding were sold which "did collapse the market" from its top and "guaranteed" a profit on the short off-shore derivative positions.

That is why I say below an audit of International vs. Domestic to determine "net" results is urgently needed. Get it?

The two big issues seen when the curtain is pulled back where comprehension is essential to grasp are:

1. How much of that "Government debt" shown and promoted at the front door is funded with "Government Investments" through the back door?

2. What is the total balance and listing of government "Off-Shore" investment portfolio management groups, 30 - 40 trillion? Accounts virtually invisible to the American people but in effect control the markets world wide by creating the ups and downs we all see. Accounts not subject to SEC or CFTC direct scrutiny being off-shore. (CALPERS International is an example of a big one). Accounts that are set up as "redemption" participation whereby say 100 million invested ten years ago that may have blossomed into 2 billion but is a ledger entry as a 100 million dollar investment on the books of those home based local governments and will not show the profit generated therefrom until redeemed... A "NET" showing of "International vs. Domestic" investments is urgently needed to see the reality of the run up and then run down in the Stock, dollar, interest rate, and crude oil markets. The net results will show the true balance sheet of who profited since SEPT 11, 2001. Government investments, at the cost and heartache of the people!

ENRON promoted their profit and hid their debt. Government does the exact opposite, they promote their debt and hide their profit..

The game continues, the illusions are maintained, and the laughter of the players can be heard all the way to the bank.. Don't you love the effects of being masterfully entertained up front with 10,000 control and misdirection sound bites being rammed down your throat from all angles as being raped at the same time and not even knowing that you are due to the easy money being generated for the controllers? Five words that every person should use per government intent, motive, and actions are: "Due to the money involved"

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Walter

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CAFR's

Come on people,where are you?The states have been robbing its citizens for years.cafr1.com.Walter even audited the fed.

Wow this is interesting...

I'm embarrassed to say it, but this is news to me. I've read through the introduction on one of the links provided in this thread and have a general understanding now of what CAFRs are. This seems almost too ridiculous to be true...all that money being stolen from the people and stashed and invested by our government? To what end? It's difficult to wrap my head around this. If I'm understanding this correctly, well to be blunt, this really pisses me off.

I dont know what you just

I dont know what you just wrote but as i was reading it i was thinking about C.A.F.R.'S and the plunge protection team. could the two be related. What would happen if a bunch of those 'off the book' profits got thrown in the right direction. could it be done fast enough?

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Walter Burien is the foremost expert on the subject of.....

CAFR's. He was the one who first discovered their existence then accordingly made their existence public knowledge.

Of all the wrong things

Of all the wrong things government does, this is really high on the list of things that pi$$ me off. I always wonder WHY they do it? I have a hard time believing that politicians do this for the benefit of "the state", so how do those corrupt individuals profit from it? How does it enhance their own lives or increase their power?

Pat

BOHICA!!

Pat

BOHICA!!

follow the money

Excellent new article by Walter Burien at his website www.cafr1.com and at www.rense.com

I have always wondered about this

Thanks for posting.

I dont mind, my spelling and

I dont mind, my spelling and grammer needs all the help it can get :)

i hope you don't mind troy

i corrected the spelling and put it all in all caps.
you wrote 'Carf".

Ron Paul is my President

Ron Paul is My President

from the horses mouth

from the horses mouth

Troy:

The off-shore (outside of SEC and CFTC oversight are set up primarily as redemption pool participation funds) used derivatives at the top going "short" with massive positions. Then here in the USA, the physical holding were sold which "did collapse the market" from its top and "guaranteed" a profit on the short off-shore derivative positions.

That is why I say below an audit of International vs. Domestic to determine "net" results is urgently needed. Get it?

The two big issues seen when the curtain is pulled back where comprehension is essential to grasp are:

1. How much of that "Government debt" shown and promoted at the front door is funded with "Government Investments" through the back door?

2. What is the total balance and listing of government "Off-Shore" investment portfolio management groups, 30 - 40 trillion? Accounts virtually invisible to the American people but in effect control the markets world wide by creating the ups and downs we all see. Accounts not subject to SEC or CFTC direct scrutiny being off-shore. (CALPERS International is an example of a big one). Accounts that are set up as "redemption" participation whereby say 100 million invested ten years ago that may have blossomed into 2 billion but is a ledger entry as a 100 million dollar investment on the books of those home based local governments and will not show the profit generated therefrom until redeemed... A "NET" showing of "International vs. Domestic" investments is urgently needed to see the reality of the run up and then run down in the Stock, dollar, interest rate, and crude oil markets. The net results will show the true balance sheet of who profited since SEPT 11, 2001. Government investments, at the cost and heartache of the people!

ENRON promoted their profit and hid their debt. Government does the exact opposite, they promote their debt and hide their profit..

The game continues, the illusions are maintained, and the laughter of the players can be heard all the way to the bank.. Don't you love the effects of being masterfully entertained up front with 10,000 control and misdirection sound bites being rammed down your throat from all angles as being raped at the same time and not even knowing that you are due to the easy money being generated for the controllers? Five words that every person should use per government intent, motive, and actions are: "Due to the money involved"

Post the above to the DailyPaul

Walter

Bump for

further discussion and in put.

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You haven't ever seen this?

Actually, a better direct site to send people to is www.cafrman.com. You can look up your own states surplus.

As California is looking for a bailout, it pisses me off to know how much they really have.

Georgia has 18.67 "BILLION" in surplus and they telll me I need to pay more taxes.

Let the revolution begin!!!!!!!!!!

crazyrustyforpresident

crazyrustyforpresident

i also emailed Peter Schiff

i also emailed Peter Schiff on myspace, not the best place to track him down, but its worth a shot.

Bump

I posted on this last week, only to have it disappear. I am very interested in the forums opinions as well.