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RE: LIST of Dual-Citizenship of So-Called Leaders.

When are people gonna wake up and look at what's happening.. They are keeping everyone's eye on the Financial Market as they slowly take over all Government Offices.... They are dismantling our Constitution in the name of "Terrorism" "Safety" "Security"... WAKE UP PEOPLE!

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In addition to our next President having a Dual-Citizenship we have this....

RE: LIST of Dual-Citizenship of So-Called Leaders.

People need to realize!! Are the interests of the US and American citizens being served by these people... ? Not from my perspective!

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From: Pioneer
Date: Jan 5, 2009 5:18 PM

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From: Guy
Date: Jan 5, 2009 5:13 PM

I DONT HAVE THE TIME OR THE INCLINATION ANYMORE TO RESEARCH THE DEPTHS OF CORRUPTION AND CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THESE JERKS HAVE ENGAGED IN! IF THE SHOE FITS THEY SHOULD WEAR IT PROUDLY AND IN PUBLIC.
NOT HIDE THEIR CONFLICT OF NATIONALITY SO THEY CAN SLITHER AROUND IN THE DARKNESS AND SCREW UP NOT ONLY OUR COUNTRIES, BUT THE ENTIRE HUMAN POPULATION!! I CONTEND THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF PLACES TO HIDE NO MATTER HOW MANY THEY CLAIM TO BE CITIZENS OF!!

American / Isreali Dual Citizens in the American Government

Attorney General - Michael Mukasey
Head of Homeland Security - Michael Chertoff
Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Richard Perle
Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) - Paul Wolfowitz
Under Secretary of Defense - Douglas Feith
National Security Council Advisor - Elliott Abrams
Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) - “Scooter” Libby
White House Deputy Chief of Staff - Joshua Bolten
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs - Marc Grossman
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department - Richard Haass
U.S.
Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) - Robert Zoellick
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - James Schlesinger
UN Representative (Former) - John Bolton
Under Secretary for Arms Control - David Wurmser
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Eliot Cohen
Senior Advisor to the President - Steve Goldsmith
Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary - Christopher Gersten
Assistant Secretary of State - Lincoln Bloomfield
Deputy Assistant to the President - Jay Lefkowitz
White House Political Director - Ken Melman
National Security Study Group - Edward Luttwak
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Kenneth Adelman
Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) - Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
National Security Council Advisor - Robert Satloff
President Export-Import Bank U.S.
- Mel Sembler
Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families - Christopher Gersten
Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs
- Mark Weinberger
White House Speechwriter - David Frum
White House Spokesman (Former) - Ari Fleischer
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Henry Kissinger
Deputy Secretary of Commerce - Samuel Bodman
Under Secretary of State for Management - Bonnie Cohen
Director of Foreign Service Institute - Ruth Davis



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I know

I can't force you to be open minded. Your hatred far out weighs your ability to think. How does hating a small group of people based on their religion have anything to do with a country based on freedom of religion? How does a conspiracy theory based on no proof and no legitimate source have anything to do with the truth. How does your defense of an Arab group of people, and hatred for their Jewish counter parts have anything to do with non interventionist policies prescribed by Dr Paul? When you side with the Palestinians you are taking sides. Non interventionists means no sides no involvement. It's so simple but it requires intelligence and an open mind. A heart clear of hatred and evil. My point has always been the same. This is not a legit article. it's antisemitic unsubstantiated hate speech. These people on the list above did nothing wrong but be Jewish. Sorry but according to freedom and liberty being separatists is not part of the position. Freedom and liberty for all, even Jews.

Are you an anti-American semite Lada?

No one is claiming anything about hate. Stop trying to hide behind it. The truth is, a person serving in our countries highest offices should not have dual citizenship. This leads to problems. Most everyone here, understands that you cannot serve two masters equally. That is the point. Your loyalities should reside with the country in which harbors you. For the safety of those people. Period. If you say different, I will take it that you are an anti-American semite bent on the destruction of MY people.

they don't

where is the proof they do? the links I've seen are all antisemitic sites of course they will say anything to fuel the hatred. These people listed have a right to citizenship in Israel based on Israels' own citizenship laws. How is that their doing?

Your people, you mean the KKK?

You are are a the only hate monger here!

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

Jews, Muslims, Christians ALL RELIGIONS

Your obvious preference is so blatant that it is almost in neon lights... If anyone is being racist my friend it is you. Practice what you preach and take some xanex or something... I fear for your blood pressure. By the way it might help if you stopped falsely accusing others.

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

yea

it's me all right. I look like something you recognize because of your agenda. But it doesn't change the facts one single bit. The KKK racists is still racists at the end of the day no matter how many nice black people they meet to urge them to think otherwise. It would be so easy if it were me wouldn't it. But your ugliness and hatred is so well established I could be promising the moon and you still wouldn't budge. You hate and you like it.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --Dr Martin Luther King

No one has said anything remotely close to what you claim

and your repeated baiting as you can see isn't working so go try your tactics else where. CLICK HERE

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

yea

whatever, take it elsewhere.

May I just ask

how in God's name a dual citizen got to be head of Homeland Security? Can somebody help me out with that????????????????

I'll admit, that's as

f*%ked up as a football bat.

I'm using that one in the future... sweet!

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

He was born Jewish

and by virtue of his birth he automatically gets citizenship in Israel if he so chooses. It isn't anything he chose or decided.

Weak

and a bit adolescent. The question related directly to the wisdom of having a dual citizen as head of the unconstitutional "Fatherland" Security Department--a question a bit more sophisticated than the answer you gave to a question that did not get raised.

So back to the real point--having a dual citizen head any Cabinet-level position in this govenment should be prohibited. Sorta like the wisdom of having a non natural born citizen as President...but I know that would never happen.

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Mmmm...interesting article here:

Thanks for the link.

http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

In Peace & Liberty,
Treg

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NOW THAT WAS DIRECT TO THE POINT!


Thanks for posting that. I knew there was much more to this than I had read so far.


Ron Paul's Convention Speech

Treg,

I'm replying here instead of below, so that you can edit, if you wish.
I would recommend removing your friend's name from his message to you.

EDIT - Ooops, too late. Someone already replied.

I sent that viewzone article to my Jewish friend, his reply is:

"Treg -- Considering that Jews in America make up less than 1% of the Population and dual citizen Israeli-Americans must make up less than .001% of the US Population (I am guessing), it does seem rather “odd” to me, and I am 100% Jewish born and raised! But this should also be no surprise, or outside of the norm. I read somewhere that prior to WWII, British had successfully fully infiltrated the levers of the American Federal Government with the clear aim and goal to get Americans to jump in on the side of the British. Just think how effective American Germans would have been if they were so inclined to get deep inside American Politics at the Federal level. Scary thought. But it scary that our American foreign policy has been or could be so easily corrupted. I know I am not popular among my American Jewish friends when I say this, and so I keep my lips tight, but I am 100% American first, and the existence or nonexistence of “mother Israel” is not a life or death thing for me as I know it is for them. For me, President Obama can give all Israeli’s Green Cards to the USA and end all financial aid to Israel. It would certainly be cheaper that way, no lives would be lost, and if that is the price of peace, so be it. All of God’s earth is holy to me and religious walls are just, well, walls. --B. Schiff

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I hold the same position

and I told you not all Jews want financial aid to Israel. I think we should cut them lose. I don't think he realizes however that he too has dual citizenship to Israel.

on his observation about Germany, the Jewish bankers backed Hitler. It wasn't about religion it was about money.

Less than 1% of the general population but more than

10% (my guess) in government. It just does not add up.

"Reality is the leading cause of stress amongst those in touch with it."
--Jane Wagner

Do you realize how many government

positions there are? 3,000 on the Federal level.

http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=228

Do you realize how many members of the Bilderberg there are?

125 and they plan and control almost every major event in the world... what is you point?

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

Divide

the number of people named above into 3,000. I know higher math. I did it for you

0.01% of Jews as Federal Government employees. It isn't a disproportionate number.

Try 125 over 6 billion...

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

ladalang, your 'higher' math could use some work

.01 % of 3000 is .3 ( 1/3rd of a person ? )

I removed

all the "former" s since they are no longer employed and should be of no harm.

Great Reply!

Thank you for posting that.

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Very good article ...

I read that article when it was first posted thanks

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

This thread, except for the post by Gin,

is totally useless with uninformed responses. From what I gather you guys haven't done your homework. The bickering that's going on is based on superficial information like Wikipedia and perhaps of what you have left over from your environment .

Stop the bickering. If the many posts on this forum about Jewish people, their religion, Zionism haven't taught you any better insight, we have no hope in the world of ever achieving peace.

By the way, I hope you all realise that it was Israel who promoted the formation of Hamas (against the PLO). Trust the Zionist Israel government and you will get the same treatment as the many innocent Palestinians have now.