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TWO United States????? anyone read this yet?

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How about 2 maybe 4 different

entities referred to as USA or whatever?

Two of them are detailed IN THE LAW (statutory) itself as revealed by Dan Meador in his extraordinary research.

http://www.lr-n-r.org/InstitutionalizedTyranny.html

I know its difficult to believe we've been snookered in every conceivable way. Once the shock wears off maybe we can get down to some serious efforts.

It seems apparent that there

It seems apparent that there are many entities referred to as USA, US, UNITED STATES, etc. Title 28 3002 (15) (A) (B) (C) of the U.S. Code states:

"United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.

They are all sub-corporations to the Corporation which was formed by the The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 (http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=01...) which was later quit-claimed to the IMF by Title 22 § 286 of the U. S. Code otherwise known as the Bretton Woods Agreement.

Thanks, Samuel for all your explanations.

The comparison site was most interesting US vs USA. Sorry I can't locate it right now.

That site is bogus. Madsen

That site is bogus. Madsen and the owner of that site are currently in litigation over it.

Also, NeoConned, you always post that site, but never offer any discourse on what it is that is presented on that site that makes Team Law so full of "BS".

If you think you are going

If you think you are going to change things via technicalities you are saaaaaaaaaaaaadly mistaken sir. It's going to take a massive change in the hearts and minds of the populace as it pertains to LIBERTY, not to technicalities in the law about whether the united States or the United States is a corporation or whatever the nonsense is on teamlaw.

You still haven't explained

You still haven't explained how that website makes Team Law full of crap.

Is it the assertion that he had a SS#? Once one understands the nature of the relationship that is created by the SSA, that person then sees that they never did have a SS#. In fact, I believe everyone on Daily Paul understands that the SS# doesn't belong to the individual, but to the SSA.

Or, is it the assertion that he had a drivers license? Since one needs to use the SS# to acquire a drivers license, who is it that is driving the car? The Sovereign Individual or the Trust. And, obviously, if it is the Trust then it would have to be licensed.

Is it the assault and battery charge from 1981? Who hasn't ever been in a fight, not to mention how long ago that was.

You, sir, are sadly mistaken if you think the only way to win back the Republic is by revolt on the part of the people. Such actions will result in the total destruction of what is left of the Republic. There is no way, with the limited firearm power of the people, that they could ever succeed in fighting off the foreign mercenaries that would be brought in. Not to mention that the people would be breaking the law, because it would be the trustees threatening the beneficiary (US Gov.).

Everyone who operates with a SS# has left the original jurisdiction of the Republic and ignorantly given themselves over to the jurisdiction of a Corporation. The only way to fix this now is to make people aware that they are not living where they think they are. This can only be done lawfully.

two americas

I highly recommend teamlaw.org.Will take a few days to read everything
but it is worth it if you want to know the truth.Sometimes,I wish I did'nt know!.I am so disappointed at my fellow Americans.

Team Law is the pre-eminent

Team Law is the pre-eminent authority on the subject, in my opinion. There is another site that is being put together by a beneficiary of Team Law called FreeSyncracy (http://www.freesyncracy.com/blog/). It is essentially a news blog, with editorials regarding our relationship with the Corp. U.S.

It is my sincere hope/desire that

next year all original jurisdiction governors are seated...

O.P.O.G.G. - Fighting the attempted devolution of the rEVOLution
Ron Paul 2012...and beyond
BAN ELECTRONIC VOTING!!

yep...

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

Where ya been?

Wait till you start getting into capital letters.

ive been around:)

I ran across this in my files, and figured I'd bring it up again...I talked with a friend this morning who had never read it...hes been a truther and a paulite for over a year!!

I was just joking with you

there's so much info, repeating the core stuff often is important.

Try this on for size:

Check out this site and click on "historical outline" which is listed under "FEATURES" on the left side of your screen.

http://teamlaw.org

This should help you unerstand what the US Government really is.

"The laws of God and nature are the only true basis of all government." Samuel Adams

"The laws of God and nature are the only true basis of all government." Samuel Adams