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Witness the power of propaganda.

Apparently the Jewish people aren't immune from propaganda either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABqq_jjRRo&eurl=http://www.h...




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sheep are everywhere of all

sheep are everywhere of all shapes and sizes.

This is my 2 cents about the Israel/Palestin debacle

It's THEIR problem. The US has no business getting involved in this. The fact that they make it their business is what makes us so mad. We do no need to understand the whole "Holy War" that is going on over there. We have more than enough problems of our own. I truely do not mean to come across as anti anything, my point is simply that the US and Israel should not be joined at the hip. If you disagree with me, then please tell me why I am wrong. What purpose does the bankrupt US have in getting involved with this situation??? Tell me why we should care!!

~Your perception becomes your reality~

~Your perception becomes your reality~

I agree

Taking sides is the worst thing we can do including DPer's taking the side if Hamas, we should take the side of "get the heck out of the middle of it", not choosing the lesser of two evils. They are in a holy war, it's gonna get ugly. let them kill each other.

I agree, they should NOT "be joined at the hip"

but they are.
I don't see Palestine having such influence over our Govt. So it is hard not to take sides.

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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I don't understand what you mean. Why do we need to

take sides? The only reason Israel has any influence on our government is because we let them. What do the majority of US citizens have to gain from that?

~Your perception becomes your reality~

~Your perception becomes your reality~

What do I mean?

I mean that it is hard not to have ill feelings toward Israel, because we see how much influence they have in our Govt.
I don't think it can be blamed on the average American entirely. Those in Govt. should be held accountable.

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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That looked like Fun..Dancing in a circle...

This not so fun...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHhs9ihSmbU

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It is far less painful to voluntarily adopt a fundamental attitude of humility than to have it thrust upon oneself as the painful consequence of ineptitude. - David R. Hawkins

Just like they were dancing on 9/11,eh?

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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Israeli Wiretappers, NSA and 911

James Bamford has done another great deed for the public by revealing the extent of the NSA's wiretapping on U.S. soil, and how the NSA sub-contracts the vast majority of its work to Israeli high-tech firms bristling with "former" Israeli military intelligence agents, and in the case of Verint, a company with serious corruption issues. It was Bamford who popularized the existence of Operation Northwoods in his 2001 book, Body of Secrets. In The Shadow Factory, he sheds light in the secret rooms of Verizon and AT&T, and shows the NSA to be a very poor custodian of the nation's security.)

full article here!!! Check out that map too!
http://911blogger.com/node/18981
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and then ...dont forget USS Liberty
http://www.911blogger.com/node/15999

** "I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

That showed me nothing

It looked like it was abandoned anyway. And what kind of zoo has chickens in it? This looks like propaganda. Propaganda that fails to make a point.

Hamas...

Exercises attacks via the best means they have available, sucide bombs, (their deep religious conviction), "sneak and peak" coupled with "wham and scram" operations, RPG's, AK, RPK, mortars and surface to surface missles. Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without. Hamas would really love to have M1A1 Abrahams tanks, laser guided rockets, F-16 and F-22 airfraft. Only the best armament that the U.S. has to offer israel. State funded terrorism is ALWAYS better funded, more diabolical and more effective than "privitized" terrorism.

And state funded terrorism has a monopoly on state funded propaganda, (mass media)!

"State funded terrorism is ALWAYS better funded"

That's what I was thinking. If we were arming both sides, then they would have the equip. you described.
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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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Funding both sides...

Perhaps. However you have to ask yourself how open is the U.S.'s funding to the Countries it gives "funding" to? In the case of Countries like Turkey, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan the funding is done in a way that transfers "financial instruments" into those countries which then in turn get converted to small arms, training, etc. The U.S. has an image to uphold and engages in these transactions in a less than forthright way. In the case of funding countries like Israel it's done in plain sight in almost a bragging fashion, shipping actual armaments right up their driveway!

I see your point.

So the protected bumper opium crops in Afghanistan, end up as small arms in Palestine?
I thought that money was just funneled back through Wall St.? That is according to Mike Ruppert.

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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People, people! The one

People, people! The one thing most of us agree on most of the time is that the US should stop supplying arms to everyone. Right now, we are arming both sides. Both sides are being manipulated for profit and decent people on both sides are dying needlessly. Rather than cast stones, we need to go back to Ron Paul's stance on foreign affairs which would stop these horrible things from happening.

I just had a humbling experience about my knowledge of Middle East geography. I did this map game http://www.rethinkingschools.org/just_fun/games/mapgame.html and have to admit, some of the countries took me too many tries. One thing I did notice was how very, very tiny Israel is and surrounding by people who are less than fond of them. Palestine is even tinier. I understand the fear.

Pat

BOHICA!!

Pat

BOHICA!!

"we are arming both sides"?

You would think the Palestinians would put up a better fight if we were arming them.....
Where are their nuclear missiles?

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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We are arming the guys who

We are arming the guys who are arming them. Those we are not arming directly are being armed by so called allies. Any way you cut it, this ongoing war, as all ongoing wars, is a battle between governments and bad for the people on both sides. War is contrived and funded for the profit of a few at the expense of the many. We need to butt out, stop sending arms to anyone, anywhere and quit telling other counties what they may and may not do. Our interference in the business of others has a way of making everything worse.

Pat

BOHICA!!

Pat

BOHICA!!

I agree, but

who are we arming, that is arming Palestine?
and
What the hell does BOHICA mean?

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Bend

Over
Here
It
Comes
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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lol... Really?

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Oops finger fumble.

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LOL, Thanks.....I like that MUCH better than WAHOR...

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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I saw this video yesterday

Extremely disturbing !!

Here are a compilation of news stories I posted this morning ...but I believe most missed the post.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/79310

( a comment would be appreciated...since self bumping is not allowed! )

** "I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

I want Dr Phil as the new middle east envoy.

Remember the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result?

The political leadership on both sides are quite literally insane. And as always, the innocent suffer the most.

I want Dr Phil to sit Hamas and the Israeli administration down and ask them:

"...and how's that working for ya?"

"That Socialism would be immediately practicable if an omnipotent and omniscient Deity were personally to descend to take in hand the government of human affairs is incontestable." - Ludwig Von Mises.

I like how the lady in the video

was talking about an AP article, and how she saw a muslim girl getting her head slashed for some religious holiday.
The Jewish interviewer responds with" My parents had a moyl slash my penis when I was little" LMFAO Then he said""It looks much better now" LOL

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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he's right

it does look better cut. It's for hygiene and I can tell you the uncut version can be funky if its not cleaned perfectly. I dated a guy who it literally stunk because he didn't wash it properly. I think he was kind of silly taking the side of uncut when his parents and doctor did his dirty a$$ a huge favor.

TMI

TOO MUCH INFORMATION....
I really didn't need to know about your dirty penised boyfriend. Did I?

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"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
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I really feel like

the DP is becoming a skin head organization. If people aren't aware, many, many women and children have been killed in bus bombs and restaurant bombings in Israel prior to what is going on now. I have friends in Israel and every time we talked they would tell me of them weekly. They lived in constant fear of dying while doing every day chores. Being under constant attack wears thin. Everyone reaches a limit under these conditions. Hamas purposely surround soldiers with women and children. it's a honor to give their lives; a whole different mentality than we have. I'm shocked at how ignorant people are about this war and are so negative about Israel based on the propaganda they see not the truth. I guess people with a mild understanding of liberty and freedom are still easily brainwashed. We take a step forward and then many steps backward.

Criticizing extremists makes it a "skin head organization"?

What folly.

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