Rangel to Reintroduce Military Draft Measure
Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) likely will introduce his controversial legislation to reinstate the draft again this year, but he will wait until after the economic stimulus package is passed.
Asked if he plans to introduce the legislation again in 2009, Rangel last week said, “Probably … yes. I don’t want to do anything this early to distract from the issue of the economic stimulus.”
Rangel’s military draft bill did create a distraction for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) soon after Democrats won control of Congress after the 2006 election.
In the wake of that historic victory, Pelosi said publicly that she did not support the draft and that the Democratic leadership would not back Rangel’s legislation. She also said Rangel’s legislation was not about reinstating the draft but was instead “a way to make a point” about social inequality.
Reintroducing the military draft bill, which would attract media attention, will be trickier for Rangel in 2009 than it was a couple years ago because the Ways and Means Committee chairman is now under investigation by the House ethics committee.





















Rangel is right about one thing
A draft that included the children and grandchildren of congress would end the wars, immediately.
Let's have some more "If they ever draft me, I'll revolt!", from the mouths of men who signed up for the selective service, because the government told them to.
It's easy to be a hypothetical hero.....
Sorry, I would just hate for anyone to think you can defy big brother and count on the people will rise up to protect you. No one will protect you, but you. Ask David Koresh or Randy Weaver.
Rangel's previous version of
Rangel's previous version of this Bill, H.R. 393, would require MANDATORY national service from ALL PERSONS aged 18 to 42.
NOTE, it is both mandatory and for all persons (meaning both males and females).
In my opinion, I believe this Bill is introduced during each session and sits in the back wings of Congress for when it is needed. I believe this is a "just in case we need it" sort of thing, despite Rangel saying that he does it just to ruffle some feathers (and waste taxpayer money while doing so for that purpose).
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Support the draft
so parents and family members can be randomly selected would surely strengthen the efforts of peace. Would it not inspire more citizens to consider peaceful resolutions? Just a question.
The time is almost ripe for
The time is almost ripe for something so absurd to pass.
Before that happens the unemployment needs to rise more,then they can strengthen the war machine.
"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820
Wasting efforts
It's a shame our Congressmen have so much extra time on their hands to waste congressional time with this rediculous non-sense. We wouldn't need any discussion of a draft if our Government would stop getting us into policeing conflicts around the world. Who are we to police the world? How about working on something with meaning, like cutting our spending around the world and taking care of your own. I just don't understand how government thinks they can fix our over in-debted economy with more debt. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out we need to stop spending and let the free market work. It appears to me that the government is just daring "We the People" to march on Washington and take back our Constitutional rights.
Draft
Oh, I can feel a draft. Can you please close the doors on the new Congress and keep them closed. Thanks.
donvino
Unequal, Yes; Not Enough Fascist Congressmen Drafted
I have a suggestion: let's start with you, Charlie. That would make many of us feel a lot better.
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draft u
You first fat man
Under investigation
When politicians get investigated, it makes me wonder if they're victims of a political attack. Almost every politician, except for the great Dr. Paul, must certainly be tainted with some scandalous activity or another. It's when this politician is considered a threat or a liability, that they are then in some legal trouble. It goes without saying that this is all speculation, because I haven't the faintest idea why the powers-that-be would want to topple Rangel. And the link doesn't work by the way.
$$@We need to build political strength and political will@A*(*
We need to build political strength and political will.
Interesting, zara oly! You
Interesting, zara oly! You mean like what happened to Blagojevich?
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Fixed it. Thanks.
Fixed it. Thanks.
It was once said
‘The pioneers of a warless world are the young men and women who refuse military service’ - Albert Einstein.
Let's delve into that idea.
Can it work? Is it possible for humanity to embrace ourselves all as equals regardless of race, religion, or creed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12BhS22ZySA
It's a continuing question. It also depends, in part, on the
specific meaning and application of the words "as equals".
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some are more equal than others
$##%We need to build political strength and political will^&**
We need to build political strength and political will.
Rangel!!! Rangel should be in jail....
for misuse of office, corruption, tax evasion and the hits keep coming!
I suspect that one day soon that we will have a draft to do the bidding of the globalist but, I can assure that my military aged boys are not going to participate in anymore lies. (Maybe they can lay low in Rangel's mansion in Santo Domingo). Maybe we can call on him (and several others) after the revolution....
"I don't have no quarrel with them Viet Cong" Mohamed Ali.
"One day there will be a war and nobody will show up" Unknown.
"Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" Einstein. (Guess I've gone off the deep end).
Is this the second or the third time that Rangel has
introduced this legislation? I've lost count (without meaning to marginalize the warning offered by this post). He keeps introducing it and it keeps getting referred to some comittee, where it has eventually died. I think that some form of it may eventually be seriously considered and perhaps even passed, even though most of the military do not like it. The last time I read his proposed bill, it contained provisions for military, as well as civilian, conscription that would apply to males and females from age 18 up to sometime in their 30s. I think it was 35, but I don't recall exactly.
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I heard
18 to 42. Could be wrong though.
You may be correct. I recall reading the bill and remembering
that it raised the draftable age to some ridiculous level. I could very well be wrong about the 35 number. I do remember that, when I was young enough for the draft, any young man who obtained a deferment on or before his 26th birthday could have his elibility extended to age 35. Maybe that's where my memory is conjuring up that number. 42 may indeed be the correct number.
Just checked it. You're right. 42 is the max age in Rangel's bill. I stand corrected. Thanks.
Still way beyond me even at 42. Of course, my kids are still in the gunsights of the bill. male & female.
In february of 2006, when he introduced in last time, Rangel said his reason was:
"I don't expect my bill to pass; my purpose in introducing this legislation is for it to serve as a constant reminder that we have lost 2,200 of the best, brightest and bravest Americans, have had thousands more maimed, and countless Iraqi citizens killed."
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This monday is Martin Luther King Day
Instead of laying at home watching the tube why don't you pass around some fliers about spreading Obama's rhetoric for "peace". He won the presidency on his stance that he'd end the war-let's hold his feet to the fire and get your community together to fight for peace. Isn't that a change we can believe in?
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Or maybe someone
can get this petition going?
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/79455
So now there's no question the economic stimulus bill will pass?
That's great a couple of months ago we got thousands of calls to congress and almost killed the thing, but then the demons over in the senate passed a bloated version of the bill.
I guess no one cares anymore-its all about the superbowl.
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If there are no wars
in the Middle East, then the daft is not needed. I am looking for someone to set up this petition to end the wars.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/79455
May wanna check this out...
I don't know how much truth there is to this, but it's worth researching.
I have 4 sons. The oldest is 10 but in 8 years God only knows what we will be living through. I have this to say about the draft: I'll be damned.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=63207
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JUST SAY NO!
I have already decided that I would rather DIE than go into Military indentured servitude. I refuse to have my body and mind used to further the bloody aims of the New World Order. We must stand boldly against this tyranny.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson
Regarding the Draft I think
Regarding the Draft
I think it is preposterous to allow our children to go to some God forsaken place in the Middle East to get blown up or brain damaged or so emotionally and mentally traumatized they might come back an entirely different person. The wars that we are involving ourselves in our against our American spirit and against common sense during this time of economic crisis. Furthermore, here's a really good point. Should you start a war you cannot finish and cannot win? No, of course not, yet that is what we are doing every day and it is appalling. As far as the draft, to you who were asking and to Jive, my brother signed up as a conscientious objector and nothing bad happened to him. The draft is insane and people need to wake up to this fact.
betty
What. A. Surprise.
Looks like the Democratic Party is now the "party of conscription".
I've noticed something. The two parties appear to have ceased having any sincere desire to be popular or to be elected. The only thing that matters is the New World Order agenda and grabbing more power for the federal government. Getting elected appears to be completely irrelevant--as if they don't mind the other prevailing party taking over periodically.
Funny, isn't it?
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What 2 parties?
Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.
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Right. Should just start
Right. Should just start calling them 'The Party'
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