Could Uruguay have the answer we've been looking for?
Hi fellow defenders of liberty,
I'm currently visiting Uruguay with my family. Uruguay's a small country with a population of about 3.7 million located in South America between Brazil and Argentina... and I have to say that it's a hidden gem.
I have nothing but good things to say about it:
- Beautiful beaches
- Free banking - it's known as the Switzerland of South America
- You can transport Gold in and out of the country with no restrictions
- Everyone's relaxed and looks healthier because of the quality of the food they eat - there are no factory farms here
- The food is amazingly cheap and amazingly good — it's an agrarian society so they grow their own food.
- Nobody goes hungry here
- People are surprisingly helpful and friendly
- Haven't seen any surveillance cameras
- Light on police presence but almost no crime. If anything, there may be petty crime
- They don't make you take your shoes off at the airport. And get this... you can even bring liquids in the plane
- We were speaking to a Homeopathic Doctor about whether or not he needed a license to open his practice and he laughed - they seem to have less government regulation and interference than we do in the "land of the free."
So I need your help. We're thinking of buying 120 acres of land right off of the main coastal highway 30 minutes away from Punta Del Este, a world renowned beach resort and Motivideo the capital city. There are also many amazing beach front cities all along that highway. Atlantida is a beautiful one 10 minutes away... so you're 10 minutes or less from the beach.
The views are breathtaking - all hills and pastures.
We'd like to build townhomes or single family homes and create a "Liberty Neighborhood" and offer them for extremely low prices ($25,000-$50,000) for freedom lovers. There will be a clubhouse and swimming pool Some units will be available for rent. Each unit would come with it's own vegetable garden.
We're still working on the particulars, and more details will follow and I can't put into words how great this place is.
Please comment and let us know if anyone here is mildly interested and what your thoughts are in general on our "Liberty Neighborhood."
Peace,
Sasha
didnt bush
buy land in paraguay?
Yes,
it has no extradition treaty with US ;-) Paraguay is a landlocked country in South America's interior. Uraguay is on the coast between Brazil and Argentina.
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Uruguay Economy
Uruguay is an interesting place for sure.
I recently googled URUGUAY ECONOMY in Google News and found a bunch of stories, including this one:
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?sto...
It talks about the upcoming October Presidential Election as well as the current economic condition compared with Argentina. Pretty optimistic.
I was looking at Uruguay a while back...
...Then I discovered this>>>
elections of 2004, brought the Frente Amplio, a coalition of socialists, communists, former Tupamaros, former communists and social democrats among others to govern with majorities in both houses of parliament and the election of President Tabaré Vázquez by an absolute majority.
I would look a lot closer at their local political direction before moving. If they get that sorted out, then it sounds like heaven!
Sounds Like My Kind of Place
Uruguay sounds like an ideal place to live. Knowing Spanish would be a good thing.
ditto!
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Sounds Awesome
Nice post a lot of good information.
Where can we all move to once the NWO enters the world stage.
Anyone with ocean front property on another planet ?
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Watch out for scams people...many people lost money paying a down payment for a soon to by built residential complex which was never build in the end.
Usually the crooks are finding potential buyers willing to put down a small down payment, after that they go to the bank with the plans and the list of potential buyers, get a credit to build the complex and good bye...this is the last time you hear from them. So be carefull when you put a down payment on a nice drawing.
This scam was popular in Spain and now is moving to South America. Watch out.
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I read somewhere that there
I read somewhere that there have been Amish groups relocating to Paraguay and Uruguay for more freedom and better cost of living.
http://www.mennolink.org/books/paraguay.html
Sounds
Sounds like an awesome idea!
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Sounds like a good idea
I will be going to Belize to a development called progresso heights. I agree you should leave some land unbuilt so ex-pats can build their own shelter. We are pretty inventive people. I want to start building a self sufficient concrete dome home. I could never get the permits to do it here in NY.
The mennonites grow the food
The government speaks in english.
Not that I have given up, I will still own a place here and have a dual citizenship. I just want a backdoor when things get bad
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what are the firearms laws
what are the firearms laws there like? those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who did not!
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"Each unit would come with
"Each unit would come with it's own vegetable garden." You might want to suggest hydroponic kitchen gardens for the townhouses! No land required to grow your own food.
We are planning a trip for January 2010 to SA. Uruguay is one of my choices as well as Argentina, NW'ern area, desert. I would be very interested in your Liberty Neighborhood. Please keep me posted, email me through the website below. Shelley
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"We'd like to build
"We'd like to build townhomes or single family homes and create a "Liberty Neighborhood" and offer them for extremely low prices ($25,000-$50,000) for freedom lovers."
Have you considered just parceling the land into city lots for homes and letting people purchase them, and build their own houses? If Uruguay is an unregulated society, as you say, they should allow natural building homes that don't conform to codes.
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Just sixty years ago, food was locally grown in Los Angeles.
- Everyone's relaxed and looks healthier because of the quality of the food they eat - there are no factory farms here
- The food is amazingly cheap and amazingly good — it's an agrarian society so they grow their own food.
- Nobody goes hungry here
- People are surprisingly helpful and friendly
No more sky scrappers and real estate hostages, get back to and enjoy nature. Permaculturist are front line warriors
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
I would love to go, Sounds
I would love to go, Sounds like paradise, but Im stuck here because my kids, and joint custody. Maybe one day, It sounds amazing, a simple life, low stress, get away from the hustle and bustle. and watrm weather...oh i am dreaming now.....
Any Update on your visit
We've been looking at Uruguay also. Looking like a really good place to move to. Would be very interested in your project. Any update you can post as to your progress?
URUGUAY
I LOVE THAT PLACE! My wife is from Uruguay and we have talked many times about moving down there. Immigration is a cake walk as well. The only place of concern is in their capital but the rest is just like you say including the people: a real gem. I think liberty would take firm root down there and I would love to be a part of it.
“I’m fully diversified. I’ve got some under the mattress, some under the floor boards, some in the backyard.”
“I’m fully diversified. I’ve got some under the mattress, some under the floor boards, some in the backyard.”
Any cheap flights?
I have to admit that I've never been to Uruguay - I've never been south of Belize - and all this makes me tempted to visit. (And if the "Liberty Neighborhood" idea ever gets any traction, I'd actually give it serious consideration.) BUT of course, I'd never move ANYPLACE I haven't visited at least a couple of weeks - preferably a month or more - to see if it was a good fit for me.
So I just looked at airfare, and it seems like at the minimum $1,000 per person to travel from anywhere in the U.S.A. to Uruguay. Ouch.
Anyone here know of a substantially cheaper way to travel there for a visit? And once there, how hard (and expensive) is it to rent a reasonably secure place for a few weeks/month?
Even if I wouldn't live there, it sounds like an interesting place to visit...
Don't forget to build a home schooling system
or at least a liberty pursuant freedom loving curriculum. Maybe we will all see you there. Good luck!!
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We're already homeschooling
and willing and able to bring a co-op to Uruguay. I want to visit, see the landscape, economy, people. We are ready to leave. Now. Just need an opportunity.
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Any update on this?
I am sincerely interested in the proposal.
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great agricultural plains, very self sufficient which is key in world despair.
also, not mentioned yet but Uruguay has some of the largest underground fresh water tables.
uruguay has been on my top 3 list of safe havens...along with new zeland and costa rica.
one of the best posts/threads I ever read on DP
Thank you for posting everyone........
My fave is Ecuador(was dating a woman from there).
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I take the standard American view that all other countries
suck...and I don't mean they really suck..I just mean they suck when compared to America.
If Uruguay is so great then why aren't folks from all over the world crawling across the desert trying to get there?
By the way the Bushes have a 100,000 acres in Paraguay...this is the "alternate nazi state."
You can be neighbors...how nice.
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If the Ron Paul movement is
If the Ron Paul movement is so great, how come all Americans aren't Ron Paul fans?
California, New Hampshire, Hawaii, are beautiful states, how come all Americans don't live there?
Some things might be very good and the majority of people don't know about them... Especially if they're remote.
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HMMM...
Yeah, I would like to know what their gun laws are. And while this does sound rather nice, I would prefer the real Switzerland. Extremely limited government, everybody is packing, no militaristic culture, and hey, one of their four official languages is English!
Yes you want to move to the southern hemisphere...
In the event of a war (nuclear) the northern hemisphere will be uninhabitable...
and, there is projected to be a series of solar flares that have near misses and heat up the atmosphere causing famine, draught, and pandemic. At least 25% of you will die if not 70% in the next 7 years from a result of these events.
There is a reason Bush is going to Paraguay...
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Uruguay
Geography
Uruguay, on the east coast of South America south of Brazil and east of Argentina, is comparable in size to Oklahoma. The country consists of a low, rolling plain in the south and a low plateau in the north. It has a 120-mile (193 km) Atlantic shoreline, a 235-mile (378 km) frontage on the Rio de la Plata, and 270 mi (435 km) on the Uruguay River, its western boundary.
Government
Constitutional republic.
History
Prior to European settlement, Uruguay was inhabited by indigenous people, the Charrúas. Juan Díaz de Solis, a Spaniard, visited Uruguay in 1516, but the Portuguese were first to settle it when they founded the town of Colonia del Sacramento in 1680. After a long struggle, Spain wrested the country from Portugal in 1778, by which time almost all of the indigenous people had been exterminated. Uruguay revolted against Spain in 1811, only to be conquered in 1817 by the Portuguese from Brazil. Independence was reasserted with Argentine help in 1825, and the republic was set up in 1828.
A revolt in 1836 touched off nearly 50 years of factional strife, including an inconclusive civil war (1839–1851) and a war with Paraguay (1865–1870), accompanied by occasional armed intervention by Argentina and Brazil. Uruguay, made prosperous by meat and wool exports, founded a welfare state early in the 20th century under President José Batlle y Ordóñez, who ruled from 1903 to 1929. A decline began in the 1950s as successive governments struggled to maintain a large bureaucracy and costly social benefits. Economic stagnation and left-wing terrorist activity followed.
A military coup ousted the civilian government in 1973. The military dictatorship that followed used fear and terror to demoralize the population, taking thousands of political prisoners. After ruling for 12 years, the brutal military regime permitted election of a civilian government in Nov. 1984 and relinquished rule in March 1985; full political and civil rights were then restored.
Subsequent leaders contended with high inflation and a mammoth national debt. Presidential and legislative elections in Nov. 1994 resulted in a narrow victory for the center-right Colorado Party and its presidential candidate, Julio Sanguinetti Cairolo, who had been president in 1985–1990. He pushed for constitutional and economic reforms aimed at reducing inflation and the size of the public sector, including tax increases and privatization. In Nov. 1999 Jorge Batlle, of the Colorado Party, won the presidency.
In 2002, Uruguay entered its fourth year of recession. Economic troubles in neighboring Argentina caused a staggering 90% drop in tourism. Batlle also faced a sizable budget deficit, a growing public debt, and a weakening of the peso on international markets. The country's economic outlook began improving in 2003. In a Dec. 2003 referendum, 60% of the electorate voted against opening up the state oil monopoly to foreign investment. In Oct. 2004, Tabaré Vázquez of the Socialist Broad Front won 50.7% of the vote; he took office in March 2005. It was the left’s first national victory in Uruguay.
Here is the site I got this info from
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0108124.html
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