Cholesterol lowering drugs... statins
On several threads it was mentioned that taking cholesterol lowering drugs have wide spread side effects, and yes, they know about these side effects. Never mind they keep still pushing this drug as it is a best seller. Doesn't matter what name yours carries, the working of statins is the same and so are the side effects.
Apart from the fact that the whole statins bizzo is based on a myth ( I would call it lies by the Big Pharma), google for 'Myths of cholesterol', the fact that they are suppressing most if not all cases of the side effects with most of it irreversible damage, I came across this report sent to me by a friend:
http://www.spacedoc.net/zocor_UK_side_effect_reports
the Zocor Adverse Drug Reports gathered by the MHRA ( Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency) - The UK equivalent of the U.S. FDA.
I consider it to be one of the most astonishing documents to come out of the statin era.
It breaks down by side effect occurence as reported to the MHRA. More than 10,000 adverse effects have been reported since simvastatin first went on the market in the U.K., with the number reported being only 1% to 10% of the actual adverse events experienced.
Although this report is on simvastatin, it is worth noting that all statins have a similar method of action and therefore a similar side effect profile would be expected.
To read the report, please follow the link.
IMO, statins are a crock of shit
They told my wife she has high cholesterol, and put her on that crap. She immediately developed acute asthma, which is not a known listed side effect. After trying different brands, with the same side effect, I asked our doctor, what if she doesn't take them ? He said, "good question, if I aggressively treat seven patients, statistically I only help one." He then refereed us to the Framingham Study that statistically by taking statins my wife's chances of not having a coronary event next ten years only improves by 2% (WTF ?), that's nothing! Here is the kicker, my cholesterol is good and she is older, but according to the prestigious Framingham study, she will out live me. Incidentally, the Japanese Island and village where she comes from, boast the longest documented living person in history, Shigechiyo Izumi who I met. http://www.chacha.com/question/who-was-the-oldest-man-ever-t...
Take the Framingham Risk Assessment self scoring 10-year CVD Risk Calculator test
>> http://hp2010.nhlbihin.net/atpiii/calculator.asp?usertype=prof
UPDATE: I just took the test and my cholesterol is good, and my risk score of having a coronary event next ten years is 12 %, while the wifes with bad cholesterol is 5 %. Males are predisposed to die earlier, God loves man.
Question about peoples method of action
Hi I am going to pose a question of peoples method of action when it comes to statin drugs. I do not think that stain drugs are a bad thing, it simply comes down to action and reaction. If a drug has a negative side effect, it needs to be counteracted through nutrition. Many people have side effects from everything within life, they just don't look to see what is causing it and don't worry about it. Smog, char-broiled steak, side effects from overeating. Those are not drugs, but they pose the same damage (probably more so) than statin drugs could. Methods of action always have to be in place to counteract possible side effects from drugs, otherwise its like moving to the city without an air purifier in the apartment to clear the smog air. Taking medications works on the same principle, and must be researched with additional nutritional supplementation introduced to stop any problems before they start.
People are too irresponsible for you to pass judgment by using adverse side effects as the basis for argument. Anything eaten needs to be supplemented with water either during or after the meal. Any drug is the same scenario.
I Hope this gets posted!
Terry
http://www.statins.co.uk
Oh, I forgot to address your comment about
counteraction if statins have negative results.
How about doctors telling people about nutrition. From my own experience, doctors in general know nothing about nutrition.
They are taught pharmacology, not healing.
One of the statins I was given at one stage warned me about consuming certain foods whilst on this drug. Can't remember all but bananas was on the no no list. Uhhh?? have a drug but not fruit?
Although in Canada they now apparently advice to take Co-Q10 when on statins but that advice is not given anywhere else. Co Q 10 is severely depleted by statins, an enzyme important for heart strength. At one stage I read through the insert of a statin brand, and in the long list of side effects it stated: heart attack.
There used to be a website 'Dangerous Drugs' which was run by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger. Of course the contributions of the people were anecdotal but it would make your hair stand up.
Funny though.. that website doesn't exist anymore. Wonder who forced that to be shut down.
At the moment in contact with 2 people who have life threatening side effects from the use of Celebrex. that's 2 out of how many? How much longer before that will become headline news. Can't be soon enough to expose those Big Pharma dollar chasing maniacs.
BTW Terry, nobody here is forcing you or anyone else to stop taking the statins, just providing information which otherwise might have been gotten through experience. Hard lesson as most side effects of statins are irreversible.
Statins are not a safe drug, not by a long shot
apart from unnecessary.
They are one of the best selling drugs, yes. As with everything, follow the money.
Please see the references here.
http://www.spacedoc.net/zocor_UK_side_effect_reports
http://www.spacedoc.net/medwatch_lipitor.html
http://www.thincs.org/discuss.Jan03.htm
The side effects of an unnecessary drug . Anyone in doubt, please google for Myths on Cholesterol.
been here 50 minutes
Did you show up just to defend PHARMA?
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
You are assuming the pharmaceutical industry wants to heal
They do not. They want profits. They want people on drugs. If people do not need a drug, a great deal of money is spent convincing them they do.
The problem is that most of the time NO drugs are needed, ONLY the nutritional counseling, but the patient gets a prescription and no counseling. That makes the motive pretty clear.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
healthy diet and lifestyle
Fortune Favors the Bold
is almost always preferable to treatments such as these.
Fortune Favors the Bold
It is worse than that,
cholesterol as such doesn't have to be treated. It is one big lie and people have bought into it.
Cholesterol Scam Exposed - Throw Away Your Statins!
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2007/01/24/cholesterol_...
Readers of this site have known it for some years, but the news is coming out more and more clearly: Cholesterol is a scam perpetrated by pharmaceutical interests at the cost of the health of millions of believers in modern medicine.
Not only do cholesterol lowering medications - the so-called statin drugs - have appalling side effects, they are practically useless, while having been the greatest money makers for pharmaceutical companies for the past two decades. We are talking about billions of dollars every year ... best selling drugs ... pervasive advertising ... and an appalling lack of evidence.
For the article please follow link.
Let's hope it will be exposed widely in msm too, sooner rather than later.
Respect
I respect all of your rights to avoid statins.
But here is the devil's advocate in me...
66 deaths...10000 reports of side effects...DO you know how many people have taken Zocor (simvastatin) over the past 10 years?
These drugs have also been shown to extend life by alternative methods (i.e., not relating to cholesterol) called pleiotropic effects. Some have shown a reduction in alzheimers, COPD, and some forms of cancer.
By routine monitoring of liver enzymes, most deaths and serious side effects can be avoided.
Of course there are pros and cons to every medication....everything also has side effects. It is risk vs benefit, and no one makes you take anything. Ultimately it is your decision on what approach you take in regards to your health.
I sympathise with your reasoning,
but when reading in between the lines, the damage done by statins is huge, and in many cases irreversible. One friend of mine is in a wheel chair now, another friend blind in one eye teethering on diabetes.
The benefits of statins are only for those who sell them!! in their bank accounts.
Look up Dr.Abram Hoffer and his Vit B3 therapy if you are concerned about cholesterol levels. But don't forget to read up on the Myth of Cholesterol and many other research done. This is a great website to start http://www.thincs.org/news.htm
These drugs are
being marketed for young healthy people now as a preventative!!! and as you have pointed out, even for children. Add that to mandatory vaccinations and we are seeing some effective population control, because it is easy to kill people with chemicals. Recall the AIDS cocktail that has killed so many and is now being provided to Africa by the US pharmaceuticals, at a "discount".
No accidents here. Part of the agenda that is moving along so well for the NWO.
Oh yeah...
For years, every time I have seen a doctor they have performed a blood test and encouraged me to try yet-another flavor of statin.
Over a period of time I must have tried all of them on the market and each time the statin caused un-pleasant side effects.
In my opinion statins are poison....and must make the drug-maker stock-holding physicians a lot of money.
Good info, thanks for sharing!
Supplements work
beta-Glucan can reduce serum concentrations of total and LDL cholesterol. …: Beta-glucan lowers serum concentrations of total and LDL cholesterol when incorporated into a fruit drink. A reduced cholesterol absorption contributes to the cholesterol-lowering effect of beta-glucan without affecting plasma concentrations of lipid-soluble antioxidants."
"The purpose of this study was to evaluate the effect on serum lipids of a yeast-derived ß-glucan fiber in 15 free-living, obese, hypercholesterolemic men. ... The yeast-derived ß-glucan fiber significantly lowered total cholesterol concentrations and was well tolerated…The link between elevated plasma LDL-cholesterol concentrations and the risk of developing coronary artery disease has been clearly established…Elevated plasma cholesterol and, in particular, LDL-cholesterol concentrations are associated with increased risk of coronary artery disease, whereas an elevated of HDL-cholesterol concentration is inversely correlated with the incidence of cardiovascular…The yeast-derived ß-glucan fiber lowered total cholesterol and raised HDL-cholesterol concentrations significantly. …
If there was only one supplement you could take to reduce your cholesterol it should be beta-sitosterol taken in 300-600 mg doses every day. Beta-sitosterol is the most studied, most proven, most effective suplement to lower total and LDL cholesterol. The studies on this in the medical journals actually go back 50 years yet most people have never even heard of it
A free book on managing blood chemistry without drugs. Full of international studies, not just claims.
https://www.healthychoicenaturals.com/download/Cholesterolbo...
Statins are not safe
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A healthy alternative is vitamin B-3 (Niacin; or, in its buffered form, Niacinamide).
It won't get reported in the medical journals - who would fund a study? - but it is a very healthful remedy to high cholesterol. Minimum of 100 mg per day. Higher doses may cause 'flushing' but it is harmless and goes away. It is caused by the capillaries dialating (a good thing), but it feels like a sunburn itch.
As well, good daily dosages of various supplements can prevent a variety of conditions and illnesses. The info is out there, if you are interested.
Yup
My doctor tried to get me on statins for a supposedly "bad" cholesterol profile. I am skeptical of the whole cholesterol harangue anyway - at the very least it is not nearly as simple a matter as they make it out to be. And I was reluctant to get started on some synthetic drug. So I did some research and discovered niacin. There is PLENTY of sound scientific research on the effectiveness of niacin. So I told my doctor I was going to try it.
Yes, I had some strong, uncomfortable flushing at first. But it is easy to deal with. Take an aspirin half an hour before the niacin and you will have no flushing. Or just bear with it for a couple weeks and it will subside on its own. I get just a little flushing now and I actually like it. Forget the time release - it just delays the flushing. And forget the "no-flush" varieties. Just take the straight niacin and deal with it.
Oh, and here is the frosting - not only does niacin very effectively deal with supposedly "bad" cholesterol balance, it also stimulates release of growth hormone. This is not a big deal for young people, but in middle age your body starts to produce dramatically less GH and your health suffers as a consequence. So any natural boost in GH is a good thing.
And straight niacin is cheap! Imagine that.
I have done the Niacin round as well
and instead of taking aspirin before, I just lowered doses and upped it after a couple of days, and again later.
Interesting thing I noticed here (Australia) in the chemists that Niacin (B3) was off the shelves for a while, and when it returned back on the shelves the dosage was lower per tablet, in other words, to get the same dosages you had to buy 2 bottles instead of one to cover the same 3 or 4 weeks. They will find ways to keep the profits up.
Speaking of statins, I just
Speaking of statins, I just listened to this no more than 5 minutes ago before clicking on DP.
Enjoy:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2008-12-1...
Simvastatin= Death
Reported Problem from Simvastatin
TOTAL NUMBER OF REPORTED REACTIONS
All 10055
Fatal 66
Wow only 66 deaths from this wonderful drug. Could have went on a fricken eggs only diet and lowered the bad cholesterol.This is the NWO in action people they have thousands of different types of drugs and a fair amount of them have the side effect of death..Most of you are still not getting this though...
Revolt For Freedom !!!
Revolt For Freedom !!!
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I am hoping more and more people
ARE getting it.
With these darned statins, they have plans to put children on it now, lower the limits when one is deemed to need them, and also, there are plans to add statins to drinking water (mass 'medication').
That's probably why I singled out the statins to bring on this forum.
What many people don't realise either is that the damage done by statins is mostly irreversible. You can halt it but not reverse.
As far as I know, only in Canada they now recommend to take extra Co enzyme Q10, an important enzyme which is depleted by taking statins (if one insists on following doctor's orders). Lack of this enzyme causes heart problems/heart attacks.