The "racism" of some Obama supporters
Submitted by atrickpay on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 23:50
Saw this on the LRC blog. The writer makes a fascinating point about the double-standard that often accompanies the charge of "racism."
Writes Peter Gay:
I'm pretty tired of hearing how yesterday's inauguration was so "historic." Wow, a lying, tax-eating politician takes power. What earth-shaking news!
But wait... There's a huge difference between this lying, tax-eating politician and all the other lying, tax-eating politicians: his skin is darker!
It's sad that so many people still insist on judging people by "the color of their skin" rather than "the content of their character."
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Nice one.
I appreciate your post.
Why do
They insist on calling him the first african american president? He is the first african/caucasion/ american. They leave that part out. My statement I'm sure will be taken a rascist by some but it is just an observation. Could it be that his ancestors owned slaves?
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Yes, its possible his white and black ancestors had slaves (slavery was an common institution practiced in ancient Egypt, Africa, as well as the Roman empire). It is also possible that his African ancestors participated in capturing and selling slaves when the Portuguese, Spanish, English were buying. So I wouldn't say your being racist just by pointing out logical facts.
Honestly I think those who openly ignore concrete historical evidence are the ones who are racists and should be subjugated as such. Also in my opinion those who know but choose not to point it out, for fear of being labeled, are at the least half as guilty as those issuing the lies.
Racism is wrong no matter who the aggressor, and to place blame by misconstruing the facts or not actually seeking them out before crucifying a people, or person, is in itself racist.
That being said I hold all those who choose to play that card as what they are- racists.
However I think most of us could care less what color the man is, IF, he is of good character and not going to lead us further down the road of socialism.
Of course I have my doubts about him, some of which stem from the fact that he hasn't called down (and I mean called down) the pro-racial tribalism comments issued by his supporters. It also scares me that he has a large affection for Lincoln- which was by no means the "Honest Abe" of legend.
Amen. Well stated.
"...those who know but choose not to point it out, for fear of being labeled, are at the least half as guilty as those issuing the lies."
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Slavery was and is (its still practiced in parts of Africa) a horrible part of the history of humanity. Yet, white Europeans did not create the market for it, nor was it only Africans who served. Actually, though it may be a shock, during the time of our Founders there were African's who owned white slaves out of the debtors prisons of England- they even had to pass a law against this because the trend started to grow (though it had a grandfather clause).
Here are some of the war era facts regarding slavery. I think most people avoid reading the TRUE facts because they are afraid of being called a racist, however if more people had a true grasp of that time period and those that came before it (regarding slavery) there would be less avoidance. That would ultimately lead to a more honest society and eventually race would lessen as an issue. As long as we let other invent history for us we are always going to be subject for those who prey upon ignorance.
http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
An example of white slavery in the colonies..
Alexander Stewart was herded off the Gildart in July of 1747, bound with chains. Stewart was pushed onto the auction block in Wecomica, St Mary's County, Maryland. Doctor Stewart and his brother William were attending the auction, aware of Alexander being on that slave ship coming from Liverpool England. Doctor Stewart and William were residents of Annapolis and brothers to David of Ballachalun in Montieth, Scotland. The two brothers paid nine pound six shillings sterling to Mr. Benedict Callvert of Annapolis for the purchase of Alexander. He was a slave.
The two brothers paid nine pound six shillings sterling to Mr. Benedict Callvert of Annapolis for the purchase of Alexander. He was a slave. Alexander tells of the other 88 Scots sold into slavery that day in "The Lyon in Mourning" pages 242‑243.
Jeremiah Howell was a lifetime‑indentured servant by his uncle in Lewis County, Virginia in the early 1700's. His son, Jeremiah, won his freedom by fighting in the Revolution.
There were hundreds of thousands of Scots sold into slavery during Colonial America. White slavery to the American Colonies occurred as early as 1630 in Scotland. According to the Egerton manuscript, British Museum, the enactment of 1652: it may be lawful for two or more justices of the peace within any county, city or town, corporate belonging to the commonwealth to from time to time by warrant cause to be apprehended, seized on and detained all and every person or persons that shall be found begging and vagrant.. in any town, parish or place to be conveyed into the Port of London, or unto any other port from where such person or persons may be shipped into a foreign colony or plantation.
(William D Phillips, Jr. Slavery From Roman Times to Early Transatlantic Trade, p. 18).
The judges of Edinburgh Scotland during the years 1662‑1665 ordered the enslavement and shipment to the colonies a large number of rogues and others who made life unpleasant for the British upper class. (Register for the Privy Council of Scotland, third series, vol. 1, p 181, vol. 2, p 101).
African American's in the 17th century owning white slaves:
African American's in the 17th century owning white slaves:
"In the 17th Century in Virginia, Negroes used to import white servants and received head rights to land. One of them, Richard Johnson, imported two white servants and received 100 acres of land on the Pungoteague River. In 1651 Johnson imported eleven and received 550 acres adjoining. About 1650, Benjamin Dole imported six and received 300 acres in Surry County, while others did the same."
(The United States Guide to Virginia p. 11, 1950.)
This situation led to the Hening's Statutes, which passed laws five times prohibiting the purchase of white people by free blacks-. Act 5, 1670, reads, "No Negro or Indian, though baptised and enjoying their own freedom shall be capable of any such purchase of Christians but yet not debarred from buying their own kind."
Act V, 1680; Act 49, ,3 (xi) 1705; Act 9, October 1748; and Chapter 67; 1792. That of 1748 included Jews. "No Negro, Mulatto, Indian, although Christian, or any Jew, Moor, or Mohammedan . . . shall purchase any Christian servant." Statutes of Louisiana, Section 13, March 20, 1818, makes the same provision.
I only point this out because people seem oblivious to the truth that all should be guilty, if any guilt (by those alive today) should be felt at all.
Here's a real interesting tidbit
from that link:
"The fact is large numbers of free Negroes owned black slaves..."
The Word Needs to Go
The "R" word needs to occupy the same shelf space as the "N" word, it's lost all meaning and is used for nothing but inflammation.
Blacks, who voted color over principle engaged in tribalism. Colin Powell was one of the more visible tribalists.
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There have been PLENTY of black candidates
I don't think people supported Obama only because he is black. It's always a choice between two tools, he was the lesser of two evils and he won---same as every other time.
besides, I know memory is short is this country, but Obama didn't become a "black candidate" until very recently. They actually avoided race for the duration of the campaign. Once his victory was established, he became a black guy. I think we discussed this at the time.
The whole thing is a big set-up and now they can add racism to unamericanism if you disagree; welcome to america changed.
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I agree that for most people,
his skin color, probably wasn't the overriding factor. But, I do believe it was
one of the factors that entered into the decision for a lot of people.
So, were not these people being intellectually hypocritical if they adhere to the principle that people shouldn't be judged by their race?
I don't know if they were. McCain was a really, really bad
candidate. And die hard partisans will vote for whoever gets tossed in front of them. I'm not dismissing what you're saying because I think you are right. I'm just interjecting a different viewpoint.
The fact that a half-black guy is president is pretty amazing, but this cycle was meant to be the historic one for some reason. We were either getting a woman or a mulatto. In fact, here's a good thing about Obama--I'd rather have a stranger at the mall think I'm racist than my girlfriend think I'm sexist.
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Not only Obama supporters but
others too. United Negro College Fund and Miss Black America are just two off the top of my head. Double standard indeed. I know that my grandparents did not own slaves (black or white) and I refuse to be held personally accountable for the sins of those who did.
Guilt by association
That's a great point. A lot of people seem to think that they and others are guilty because of the actions of some individuals in the past.
Talk about collectivism...
Seems it was a precedent set long ago in the bible...
That wily ole' God just had to have revenge on the Malachites for a slight done to the Israelites 400 years before, so he set Samuel to massacring Malachites men, women, children, goats, oxen chickens and all kinds of stuff.... I think that's kinda the way it went.
And we wonder where we get it!
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Race shouldn't be an issue- but politicians have been working that angle since the abolitionists. The sad thing is with the quota and busing laws we have created a reverse racism in America and actually stifled the advancement of the very people these laws were intended to help .
I could care less what color someone is as long as they do not infringe upon my own personnel liberties. The character of a person should be based off their moral fortitude and work ethic, not ancestral origins.
Hopefully
before this is over people will come to realize that COLOR and Character or two different things. Give it time look how great bush looked in the beginning. Eventually the measure of the man will be exposed by his deeds not his words.
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Clearly the writer of this
Clearly the writer of this piece isn't black
"People should not be afraid of their governments; governments should be afraid of their people." - V for Vendetta
I don't know
But what point are you getting at?
I'm interested in some discussion on this.
Just that the writer doesn't
Just that the writer doesn't understand the mentality of millions of people that voted for the symbol of a black president. I'm not saying it's right, just that he's missing the point. It's historic because of the tainted history of America and most everyone at least acknowledges that.
"People should not be afraid of their governments; governments should be afraid of their people." - V for Vendetta
I think the author is just frustrated at those...
who are being intellectual hypocrites. The people in question adhere to the principle that individuals shouldn't be judged by their race.
But they clearly violated their own principle by voting for Barry if they did so because of his skin color.
Maybe it's just a bad principle that needs to be rejected?
It certainly is a principle
It certainly is a principle that must be rejected, but seemingly only through the course of time. It's a shame that many voted entirely along racial lines and that there exists a sort of "racial pride," but a history of discrimination is to blame.
"People should not be afraid of their governments; governments should be afraid of their people." - V for Vendetta
Interesting..
I have a funny feeling that this won't go over well with a lot of "liberals" and "progressives."
How would you even go about proposing that to one of them?! I don't think it would go over well.