What issue is most important to you?
Submitted by RonPaul818 on Sun, 11/18/2007 - 03:471.) The end of the Iraq War;
2.) You are worried about the value of our currency;
3.) The Patriot Act is something you disagree with in a strong way;
4.) Media is controlled by a few elites;
5.) Our jobs are being outsourced and unfavorable trade
agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA;
6.) The forming of a North American Union;
7.) The erosion of the Constitution;
8.) Our overall foreign policy
Please pick your most critical issue. Thank you.
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Dosent 1-6,and 8 fall under
Dosent 1-6,and 8 fall under #7?
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms is ,as a last resort ,to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-Thomas Jefferson
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms is ,as a last resort ,to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-Thomas Jefferson
Mother's Milk
"2.) You are worried about the value of our currency"
This comes first because it is the engine that makes every other abuse possible. The deliberate undermining of the Continental by the Fe'ral Reserve funds every infringement of our rights and every violation of our Constitution by robbing, in particular, the middle class, pensioners, and the working poor.
Inflation, like your typical Demoblican voter, is venal, larcenous, and cowardly.
The highest aim of any Federal candidate's campaign is to promote Hard Money and a Secure Frontier.
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most urgent is the War, Fiat
most urgent is the War, Fiat money is most important in the long run.
Freedom. Economic freedom
Freedom.
Economic freedom (free markets)
Personal freedom (government out of my life)
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Monetary Policy
This is the engine that allows the government to have the bad policies. With a commodity standard, the government's hands are tied, and they can't fund their evil. Therefore, it all starts and ends with the banking system. All the rest is a symptom of this centralized banking disease.
Most important
How about 1 through 8? Also,
9.) Illegal immigration.
these should be our FUNDING THEMES
in answer to the clueless press in the conference on the day after the 4.3 million was raised, FUTURE DONATION EVENTS SHOULD BE THEMATIC ANSWERS TO THEIR QUESTION:
"WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE SUPPORT RON PAUL?"
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME, RON!
3 & 8
If I HAAAAD to choose only 2, I agree with all these things.
I may not agree with EVERYTHING he says (the end of net neutrality, removing college loans), but his heart is in the right place and I can whole-heartedly trust him to fight for what's right.
Net neutrality?
If the net neutrality is what i think it is-i heard RP comment on that in an interview-he voted 'against it',b/c he said there was a 'small tax on it',and he did not even want to give the gvmt even a 'little bit' of control over the internet,no matter how small.
So,his voting against it was to protect it's sovereignty!
Also,with student loans-you can disagree,but as someone who has 50k in loans like myself,i abhor the fact that the gvmt gets interest on money it lent to me. And money that they paid interest on with my and my parents,tax money,in order to lend me.
Student loans by the government should not be interest bearing,period.
Nor should their be origination fees.
In the end,it has all been a sham to allow for inflation-and for colleges to keep up by raising tuition and maintaining the higher educaiton ship/economy.
Sorry,tangent.
But for the issues,all of them and then some.
But the ultimate issue is freedom,for me,which encompasses the rest.
Of course,at the time,and to some extent now,i felt that i was fortunate to be able to go to any college i wanted,and to be able to borrow money.
Like I said,now I abhor the idea of paying back twice as much to my government which is really for the fed. reserve.
RP's policies are always deeper than meets the eye. They are not polarized like the rest of current political climate.
Every system currently in place has been designed to divide and conquer us. Education is no exception,at any level.
And I would advise you to
And I would advise you to remember not everyone in this country believes as you do. Just because they want to be free does not mean they have to believe in your god. I am not an atheist, but I will not live under a Christian controlled government, which only represents 30% of the American population. You guys are always talking about how you are being oppressed, yet you marginalize others beliefs. The subject of the Constitution involves everyone, not just Christians. There is no difference between the statement made above about god's rule and the control and theocracy of the Taliban. Period. If I felt for one second that was the direction that Ron Paul’s campaign was going, I would pull all my support and start working feverishly against him. Keep your beliefs out of my back yard and keep in mind you are not the only religion in this country. I absolutely hate self-righteous people who think their way is the only way. I am respecting your right to believe your way, but you had better respect mine or I will give you the fight you are looking for. Keep it to yourself.
Restore the Republic! RP2008
Agreed
I have to agree with this post!
I am fervently for separation of church and state.
I also,however,understand when RP wants to end the ban on school prayer,that he is talking about the definite use of banning prayer as a tool to minimize the effect of religion. Statism is the new religion,or at least the gvmt would like it to be that way.
It was that Christianity provided a means for control for a long time,but became to powerful on it's own.
In any case,while I also am not Christian,I understand that we cannot limit anyone's rights,either,with regard to whom they can pray.
Though,I,too,would not be supporting RP if I thought he were attempting to create a Christian nation state.
Agreed
I have to agree with this post!
I am fervently for separation of church and state.
I also,however,understand when RP wants to end the ban on school prayer,that he is talking about the definite use of banning prayer as a tool to minimize the effect of religion. Statism is the new religion,or at least the gvmt would like it to be that way.
It was that Christianity provided a means for control for a long time,but became to powerful on it's own.
In any case,while I also am not Christian,I understand that we cannot limit anyone's rights,either,with regard to whom they can pray.
Though,I,too,would not be supporting RP if I thought he were attempting to create a Christian nation state.
mj, freedom means just that..."freedom"
I see and respect both sides of this arguement. But freedom means just that-- freedom. Both sides should have the respect of the other, to live and "believe" as they wish. If you truly believe the message of the Bible, then it is a belief that God gives us will (sorry, don't believe in "free will" here...lol), to CHOOSE as we wish concerning our actions and our beliefs.
I consider myself "spiritual" though not "religious." I have an appreciation for many teachings of many religions because "truth is truth" to me, it does not necessarily have to have a Diety involved, though I do believe in God. To mj I would say that Ron has repeatedly said people should have the right to live their lives as they see fit, so long as it does not harm someone else. If you agree with that concept, we're on the same team here. To others who posted below regarding mj's atheism, I would ask you to keep your own beliefs in-check, not hidden, just in-check out of respect for those on this "open" forum who may believe differently whether Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Muslim, Jew, atheist or agnostic. (or anyone else I missed). Those familiar with history know what happens when theocracies are sought in the political realm. They never work out the way they were intended.
Let's unite in the same cry as our founders, "WE the People!" Deal?
Very well put and along the
Very well put and along the lines I was trying to convey. However, In order to include all when it comes to school or government, you must not allow any religion or you must include all religions. I want my children learning fact back up by science and theory supported by that fact. I also believe everyone can worship or not worship at their own discretion, but not in an environment where other beliefs are not represented or effect a logical outcome, such as school or in governmental affairs. Faith in government is a great thing, but it must be equally acceptable to all Americans when it affects them directly. If you want the 10 Commandments in government buildings then you must also display the teachings of Budda, the Tora, the Koran and a piece of every other religious artifact or none at all.
“Let's unite in the same cry as our founders, "WE the People!" Deal?”
Yes, Deal.
Restore the Republic! RP2008
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All of the above, really. I see these as part of the same issue: centralizing government beyond the limits the Bill of Rights was put in place to restrict. Without the B o R, the constitution can be interpreted the way it has been for the last 100 years, giving more and more power into fewer hands and taking it away from individuals. Not only is wealth transferred, but also power.
Other
I feel that not one of these things can be addressed without addressing the whole.
You can't get rid of the income tax unless you cut spending and that starts with the overseas empire building. You can't do that unless you change the attitude towards foreign policy, and you can't do that unless you lessen the dependency on foreign oil, etc., etc., etc.
But I think the ONE thing that can have the biggest impact on future generations is to eliminate the DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION and re-acquire local control of the schools. Unfortunately, we're a generation too late and that's why so many people find the libertarian message to be "kooky".
Dept. of Ed.
Yea,except for my homeschooled 6 yr old (we did one year of a public charter),who,when he saw a couple of RP interviews on video,exclaimed 'Mom,he has the same policies as you!'
And,in still another,when the speaker said 'at first blush,i thought Ron Paul was off the mark and so different than the others'....my son blurted out "That's the point; that is why we are voting for him!" [And that is not what i had ever told him in any way].
There's still hope,even if it is a generation later. He regularly tells me when I need to be a 'more freedom parent',in his words.
If this current crop of kids can't do it,noone can!!!
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illegal collection of income tax on wages traded for services.
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All of the above.
This is why I'm backing Ron Paul.
"Free government is founded in jealousy, and not in confidence; it is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited constitutions." Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions of 1798
Issue is most important to me? ... Getting Ron Paul elected.
Pretty much it.
Foreclosure
The most important thing to me is the national debt.
If we go bankrupt, our country dissolves.
If we can keep from bankruptcy, all other things can be worked out.
hmmm
i think that there may be some proponents of Theocracy in here! :D
as much as that was and would be an awesome system, there's no way it will ever happen in America lol
Pre-Emptive
What concerns me the most, and Dr Paul stated it once, is this idea of going to war pre-emptively. As we witnessed, under the wrong hands this could be the most dangerous threat to human survial. The fact that the U.S. was more rational than others gave the world a awkward balance of allies.
Now all countries will be suspicious of everything we do or say.
The belief that any entity besides an
individual mind can be sovereign. (so as not to exclude AIs, ETs, etc.) So I guess the closest on the list is #7, but as I've said before... the Constitution was and is an obviously imperfect means for restraining goons with guns, else we wouldn't be where we are.
A "Living Constitution" is Very Scary
I prefer a Static Constitution, that says what it means and means what it says. So far, Dr. Paul is the ONLY candidate standing up for the U.S. Constitution, as it was intended. They fear him, and they should.
So # 7, first. Then 5, 6, 4, 1, and 2.
Not static
There are differences in interpretation-nothing is static,and the constitution was created to be alive! To require exactly this kind of dialogue. Otherwise,it becomes another thing to tell us how we must live our life.
That said,current powers are virtually ignoring it,not just interpreting it differently. That's a big difference.
Not static
There are differences in interpretation-nothing is static,and the constitution was created to be alive! To require exactly this kind of dialogue. Otherwise,it becomes another thing to tell us how we must live our life.
That said,current powers are virtually ignoring it,not just interpreting it differently. That's a big difference.
Exactly, what he said. In
Exactly, what he said. In that order.
Restore the Republic! RP2008
"We" most certainly do not
"We" most certainly do not want the Ten Commandments posted in any government building or schools. The question does not revolve around religion. Don't turn Dr. Pauls message into a crusade. Keep in mind that belief in the Constitution does not mean a belief in a Christian god. Doing so during this campaign also means alienating millions of Americans. As the fore-fathers thought we need a strong separation of church and state. That way all are entitled to believe as they wish.
By the way your are entitled to free speach, but don't you think "Ruling by prayer" sounds a little .......Talibanish?
Restore the Republic! RP2008
Our Constitution worthless without moral leaders.
Ruling by prayer
Does this sound Talibanish to you, mj_duke?
"[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion .... Our Constitutuion was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
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"[I]t is religion and morality alone which can estabish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. Religion and virtue are the only foundations . . . of republicanism and of all free governments."
Both of the above statements were made by one of our Founding Fathers, John Adams. George Washington said the following in his "Farewell Address":
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness."
Our Founders composed the Constitution through much discussion and study; and they prayed together during the process. If you would like to know more about all this, I recommend David Barton's book, "Original Intent." It is full of info on the Constitution and our Founders.
Ruling by prayer