FDA says don't eat Austin Cheese Peanut Butter Crackers. Should I listen?
Submitted by zrih1 on Sat, 01/24/2009 - 10:07
The U.S. Food and Drug Administrations (FDA) has its latest list of recalled foods related to the Peanut Butter Product Recall (Salmonella Typhimurium Outbreak).
My question to Daily Paulers is should I abide by their warning? Or are they just another useless federal agency? Ron Paul has said numerous times to do away with the FDA. If we get rid of the FDA, who will warn us when there are outbreaks such as the one above? Who will compile a useful website like the one the FDA has put together?
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the market works
as soon as reports of unsafe foods are made store owners, distributors, and manufacturers will do everything they can to remove the product, trust is a fragile thing and business people don't want the reputation of poisoning the public.
Do you think that without the FDA nothing would have happened?
I'm a big PB fan (although I
I'm a big PB fan (although I just tried Nutella the other day and I found it delicious). I used to like Jif and Skippy the most (in Chile, we have the Parade, Safeway and Peter Pan PB that come from the States). It always used to be in my diet when I was a kid but I must admit that I have a weakness for PB. And you know what, it's healthy. I remember the days my mom would give me celery or carrot sticks with PB. I don't care what the government says about PB, my body certainly doesn't think it's harmful. ;)
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Government loves you!
My son has been eating them all week.
Not a problem. We keep a hefty stock of them, and are down to one pack. None at the store.
Colchester, New London County, Connecticut
I'm sick as a dog...
But it's not peanut butter that did it to me, I think it was undercooked egg whites, tomatoes, onions or cottage cheese that I had for breakfast on a trip to Los Angeles mid-week. It hit me about 8 hrs later. Wicked trip home I'll tell you that!
I've lost 10 lbs in 2 days!!! No appetite. Just feel like drinking lots of water but I guess I should try to keep some food down too.
I know the owners of PCA, the peanut processing plant involved. I've sold peanuts for them but not peanut butter. They run a good plant and have been in the business for 3 generations, but evidently when you're doing 10s of millions of lbs of product, as most peanut plants do, you can't catch everything. It looks like it has been traced to one grower.
Privatizing inspections and approvals is the way to go. U/L for appliances, AIB (American Institute of Baking) for food plants, and others perform rigorous inspections. More companies should use them and advertise their good ratings.
In the end, like in most other things, it's up to us to demand high standards of our food suppliers, not leave it to a bureaucrat with life-time tenure.
"What have you done for Ron Paul today"?
If we got rid of the FDA, the private sector
would supply inspection and certification. The market would demand that. It would probably do a better job than a government bureaucracy.
For example, there is Underwriters Laboratories which is a private inspector and certifier for electrical equipment. If you want something safe, make sure it has the UL symbol on it. Food would be the same way.
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Don't eat the peanut butter.
Unless you want to get Salmonellosis (I don't think you'd like it).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonellosis
Actually, there IS a valid role for government in monitoring food and drug quality. The FDA just goes way overboard.
There is also a role for Public Health and the Centers for Disease Control, although on a much more limited scae than they have assumed.
Why shouldn't the government play a role in warning and informing the public?
And if someone has multi-drug resistant tuberculosis he SHOULD be quarantined and I don't give a crap whether he likes it or not.
We're talking about MY rights now, see?
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive."
There is no valid role for
There is no valid role for the government to regulate food, as those powers are not granted to the government in the constitution. I agree that food inspection is a valuable service, but it is not the role of government. The private sector is very capable of doing that job.
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Maybe not federal, but state government?
I do agree that most product regulatory functions could be done away with.
A private enterprise Consumer Reports-type business might be able to take care of most monitoring functions.
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive."
I just think it's odd
We've eaten Jiff and Peter Pan peanut butter (and other products) since I was a child 50 years ago (as well as many other grocery store bought items). There was never a problem (or recall) to my rememberance...
I thought the gov (FDA) was making sure through all their many regulations that food was produced more safely (and inspected) in modern times than years ago. In which people should feel much safer (and protected) in buying modern products. But, instead, it is recently that all the food issues have arisen...lettuce, tomatoes, dog food, etc. Becoming a real problem. Are the recent "poisoning" incidents due to food supplies coming from other countries......it has always occured but we just never heard about it years ago.....or the government exaggerates incidents (which scare people) as an opportunity to assume more control of the food industry???
In which case (government control) telling people to buy local might not work as those would be the ones the gov would shut down from selling to the public (as in lead paint and homemade toys)
Just wondering......
Industrialized farms grow denatured foods.
The crops have no defenses, and are sick. This is passed on to you, just like the "additives" during the life cycle of a cow.
Support your small family farmer.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
That's possible RFL
and I do support my local farmers at the farmer's markets and usually just eat venison for meat. However, it is my concerns that IF these "poisioning" problems continue that the gov will "take over" more and more of our food supplies and the first to go will not be the ones that SHOULD be shut down...but the multitude of small farmers that cannot afford the required gov "testing" of the future...all this to be done under the cry of "public food safety"
Also got that warning
in Canada. Good to keep a simple unprocessed diet as much as possible.
Don't eat anything prepackaged.
We are blessed with an employee-owned Winco, where I can grind my own peanut butter. Maybe my neighbors and I will be ill if they are careless in their upkeep, but the entire nation won't be affected. I have a bread machine which turns home-made bread into a chore simpler than boxed macaroni and cheese. Which I also won't eat...
There is a clear pattern of poisoning, then closing independent food processing companies. Soon there will be no local canneries, they will all have had a "salmonella" outbreak and closed them. An "immigration sweep" shut down a couple meat provessors here locally - since when do they give a rats a%$ about illegal immigrants? Aren't there more at the border than at this little meat plant?
Is it real? Probably. Dead people seems real enough to me. However, how it actually got into the food supply is a tough thing to prove, especially when the fox watches that henhouse.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
I had some at the store I sell some I eat some
I got rid of them. I figured me not eating a pack of .11 cent crackers or not selling them and making 20 cents, was worth not getting sick. I looked at this one different than the tomato mess last year. The company knew what was contaminated and knew that it was, so it was a simple decision for me to toss my crackers out.
Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.
*May the only ones to touch your junk, be the ones you want to touch your junk.*
More the reason to choose locally grown . . .
organic produce. Stay completely away from corporate food.
However, a person that is healthy and "clean inside, without 3 days of old food remnants, can "bypass" putrified foods by passing thru the digestive system, literally within two hours, with no putrified (salmonella) "residues" "clinging" to the intestinal walls, waiting to get fed refined sugar.
Stay healthy and strong. Eat a Natural Hygiene diet (mostly raw). Your food choice is a great weapon against the man, and this includes the use of marijuana. Use it. Promote hemp.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”