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So how are things in your neck of the woods? Here in

N.E. Ohio it's cold - economy is poor. The State is talking about large cuts in services coming. Up the road in Cleveland they are all excited about 680 million coming in a Obama Stimulus Package. For the first time ever the local Walmart is not hiring for the 11 - 7 shift, maybe that says all.



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San Diego, CA

Real Estate is taking the hit -lots of foreclosures and short sales. Maybe prices will get back to reality. Food prices up. Otherwise, everything seems the same to me. The stores and parking lots are as crowded as ever- it's as if no one else knows our economy is in the toilet around here.

In Central California...

It is bad, the foreclosures are piling up, companies are laying off, or cutting employees hours. We have at least 10-15 people come in our shop looking for work, sad thing is we started experiencing the slow down a year, and a half ago, and made the changes necessary to stay in business. We do not plan on hiring anyone for a long time. Sad thing is most of these people don't even speak english, and have no real form of education, who knows what they will do. Today I had a guy come in and asked if I spoke spanish, and if I was hiring, my response was No, and No. He asked me "how am I gonna eat, and send money to my wife if I can't find a job" I really didn't know what to say other than, I was really sorry about his situation. He responded by saying "I guess I have to go back to Mexico with my wife and kids then". I do not feel sorry for him, apparently he was working for someone who hires illegals, and sending all his money home to his country.

Portland, Oregon

Just in My surrounding area........

Burger King
KFC
Fred Meyer (Big Chain, one location)
Transmission Shop
Rockwood Bowling Lanes
Food 4 Less (Big Food Store)
Newport Bay (Restaurant)
Original Taco House (Restaurant)
and lots of small places all CLOSED!

Boeing, Frieghtliner, Microsoft, all laying off people.

We are in the middle of this....and it has gotten a little better in the past 2 weeks. I am seeing Sales up at my Electronics Store. Obama did help win over some people and their is a little hope in the air around here.

We are still down 25%.....and we will see how long this stimulus package will bandaid things. It might do the trick for 6 months or so....but we all know they can't keep doing this. This just buys me more time to prepare.

Very Very Interesting reading the Posts of fellow Patriots

Spread all across our Great Land - Reminds of that movie with Kevin Costner - Postman -

Be thinking Gardens - Solar power of some sort - WATER WATER
& if you have a spot of room - Chickens & Rabbits - Dam I love a rabbit in the crock pot.

Reach out to your families & try & help one another when ever & where ever you can

Peace

Sonny

"You Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come"

We all know SOMETHING is coming...

and that the worst may be yet to come.

If you want to learn how to PREPARE for and GAIN from it check out the site www.PrepareForAndGainFrom.com

Niagara Falls is as cold as my ex-wifes heart.

But just knowing she's still in Michigan makes me all warm and fuzzy.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !

Just the thought

of Niagara Falls in winter makes me shiver. I was born and raised in Niagara County, escaped at age 18. And no, I have never, ever, ever been homesick for the place, certainly not this time of year.

Wonder if you know how the Casinos are doing

up in that area? Do they still light up the falls at night? A must see for those who have never experienced.

"You Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come"

The casino's are the only reason I stay afloat up here.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !

Michigan!

Doing great. Live with folks. State sends check. Got Gold, silver and cash.

Truth is treason in the empire of lies.

south-central idaho, hanging in there

The biggest surprise to me was the hospital that laid of a bunch of staff (20 people, I think.) The big employers have made some big cuts, small employers are getting creative.
I started a barter board for our county, and doing it has had me cruise the barter section of craigslist for the past month or so. It has exploded, and you can get about anything you want for barter in the Boise area.
The little town where we are is kind of circling the wagons... There are a couple of the stores that still trade in FRNs, but all of them are ready to be flexible should the need arise. And they understand that the need appears about to arise.
After 6 days of inversion, it is sunny and clear today, and I wish I could share with you all the incredible blue of the winter sky in these mountains.
Peace!

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

South central Missouri

I'm retired so don't know what is going on inside the local businesses. One of my sons-in-law sells feed to ranchers and independently owned farm stores and he told me that sales sucked and that several of the store owners were scared. One even planed to cash in his 401(k) and pay the penalty to raise some cash.

He did tell me that early last fall he had an appointment with someone who kept horses and that he arrived early and nobody was home, so he just sat in his truck by the corral. The rancher drove up and asked if my son-in-law had put the three horses in the corral, which he had not. They walked over to the gate and there was a note giving the names and ages of the horses, explaining the owner could not afford to feed them anymore and he knew that they would be in good hands with the rancher. Also, the local sale barn will no longer take horses without a deposit, because lots of them were "no-sales" and the owners were not coming back to pick them up. Apparently quite a few horses are being let loose in the national forests around here because the owners can't afford to feed them.

Of course, one thing about this area, is that the depression of the 1930's probably did not end until until the 1990's. I noticed that Walmart had a huge amount of left over Christmas items, even after the after Christmas liquidation, and the toy shelves are still fairly loaded, but ammunition shelves are on the low side. I guess we country folk are clinging to our guns and religion instead of buying Christmas junk.

So far this has been a very, very dry winter. Normally you see some green in the fields, but this year everything is brown. If this keeps up for the rest of the 2009 the cattle ranchers are going to be in big trouble for lack of pasture and hay, but that could change. Last summer was exceptionally wet, so at least barns were full of hay going into this dry spell.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Pray for rain

They say there are no atheists in foxholes....I think the same goes for people with a few dimes in their pocket....

+...Pray for Your Enemies and Moral Courage for Righteous Leaders, so that Justice Will Be Delivered to the Innocent...+

+...Pray for Your Enemies and Moral Courage for Righteous Leaders, so that Justice Will Be Delivered to the Innocent...+

Same here

In the Bootheel of Missouri. Tons of vacant homes for sale. car lots are deserted and trying everything under the sun to sell vehicles. Nobodys buying anything big. The local paper has columns with tons of stuff for sale and very little jobs, only two the last time I looked. The local Goody's ( retail clothing ) and Ruby Tuesdays are closing, and plenty of small businesses are going under. A local factory is also going under. You also hear plenty of rumors of other factories going out too. While shopping for groceries today, I noticed peoples carts are not as full as they used to be. I have also noticed the downsizing of products .Like toliet paper ( rolls seem smaller ) less chips in a bag, smaller portions of skillet meals ect. Not to mention inflation. Most of the restaurants here are much slower too. The thrift stores are packed now and clothing shops are slow to empty. Used to, you could find really good bargins and cool stuff at the thrift stores, now it's much harder due to competition and the lady that runs the thrift store said donations are coming in much slower. Today I was at one of the local thrift stores in town. I struck up a conversation with a older lady and come to find out, she moved to my area from Las Vegas. She said she loved it here, she said things were cheaper and not as many illegals here, although, I have seen more than illegals here lately than usual. I feel the worse the economy gets, the more they will flood to smaller towns. It will be hard on wages for locals. A relative of mine owns a plumbing business and I recently found out he hires illegals sometimes. I don't plan on speaking to him anytime soon.

NC mountains here....

Things are dead and dying. Hiring freeze at everything that's still open. All of the manufacturing plants have closed/moved to Mexico, Taiwan, etc..in the past few years. The lumber industry has stopped. The electrical parts industry has stopped. I am extremely fortunate to have a job working PT at WalMart, as there just isn't anything else within an hour + drive. I have extended my job search as far as Charlotte, Raliegh and Knoxville...but the only jobs posted on the internet (Monster, Craigslist, etc.) are for VERY specific professionals with a minimum of 10 years experience...or a CNA to empty bedpans for $8/hr, or Taco Bell....those are the choices. My savings have been used up, waiting for a turn-around in my luck. I have "stuff" with payments that I can't sell...and I don't know what I'm going to do to pay the mortgage, let along buy groceries in Feb. I guess my 800+ credit score is going to be toast.

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BC
'No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.'
-- Samuel Adams (letter to James Warren, 4 November 1775)

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

NC Mountians as well (Caldwell County)

I read your post and it is all about the same here. Just to let you know, Target has been building a very large dist. warehouse in Conover NC. They should be hiring very soon. I work at MDI and our business has almost died. Of course I do work in the frezzer and not too many people want ice cream right now. Hope that helps. Take care. atlasdaddy

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It's clear and cold in the

It's clear and cold in the Idaho panhandle today. Businesses are feeling the pinch and cutting expenses. Most of the lumber mills have already closed, we have one left here, there may be a couple more in other towns, I am not sure. People here are pretty clueful and at least this is not coming as a surprise to anyone.

Pat

BOHICA!!

Pat

BOHICA!!

In the past week the Portland, OR news has reported

1,000 layoffs at a computer chip company, and 1,000 layoffs at the Oregon Health Sciences University Hospital.
Some of the posts below also speak of hospital layoffs, and it does cause me to wonder--as people will still need medical services--it isn't just because of fewer elective procedures.
The explanation as to why OHSU we having financial difficulties was because of investments losing value.

I suppose it depends on what you're doing in the economy in

order to earn a living. I shut down one business, but still clinging to another one. Slow.....very slow.
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."

EXTREM LEVERAGE IN REVERSE -POSSIBLE SYSTEMIC COLLAPSE

Your muscle can make many good things happen:
http://www.uhuh.com/action/do-it.htm
1. The national debt quits happening and is soon reduced to zero forever. Federal taxes nearly disappear.

2. Public schools and libraries can be totally financed by Congress instead of paying money homage to private banklords.

3. Property taxes can be nearly eliminated. $$$$$$ Money $$$$$$

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Learn about the differenc between Money vs Currency here:
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Now to answer your comment...........
It is not the Fiat Money alone but its marriage to the Legal Tender Laws & Fractional Reserve Banking System that makes paper money subject to interest, or in other words monetary system subdued by unpayable interest bad from the start.

Take a look how gold will perform under MPE or interest-free-monetary-system. Gold will be the king, but....read how laws must be changed ...

Recent blog articles at PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™:

REGARDING OBAMA’S REFUSAL TO SECOND GUESS THE FED
http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2009/01/26/regarding-obamas-ref...

DECRYING OBAMA’S VACILLATION ON TAXATION
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HOW MATHEMATICALLY PERFECTED ECONOMY™ SHAKES OUT FOR GOLD
http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2009/01/25/how-mathematically-p...
(Made waves across the net within minutes of being published.)

JERE HOUGH PROMOTES CONFLICTING SOLUTIONS, ELLEN HODGSON BROWN, STEPHEN ZARLENGA, GRIFFIN, COOK (PART 1)
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IS PROFIT DESTRUCTIVE TO INDUSTRIAL SUSTAINABILITY, AS IS INTEREST?
http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2009/01/22/is-profit-destructiv...

RESPONSE TO PETER J. COOPER’S GOLD BUG WEBLOG
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FALSE IDEA OF ‘CORRECTIONS’ UNDER USURY
http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2009/01/10/false-idea-of-correc...

QUESTION FOR TIM KAINE, DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2009/01/09/question-for-tim-kai...

MIKE MONTAGNE RESPONDS TO OPED NEWS ARTICLE APPEALING FOR UNQUALIFIED “REGULATION”
http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2009/01/08/mike-montagne-respon...

RESPONSE TO ELLEN HODGSON BROWN’S CLAIM TO ANSWER TO THE CONTROVERSY
http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2008/12/22/response-to-ellen-ho...

mike montagne REBUTS HYPERINFLATION AS A CAUSE OF AN INEVITABLE, SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION
http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2008/12/21/mike-montagne-rebuts...

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WHAT IS THE CORRECT TERM FOR THE MPE CURRENCY?
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COINAGE AND THE MPC™
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THE FIRST GLOBAL GREAT DEPRESSION 101 IS HERE
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/f/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=300

OBJECTIVISM 101 - THE PRINCIPLE BEHIND THE DEAN!
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/f/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=317

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MPE QUESTIONS ABOUT LOANS AND LEASING
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/f/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=273

QUESTION CONCERNING MPE SPREADSHEET MODEL
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/f/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=332

INFLATION VS. DEFLATION: THE QUANTITY THEORY OF MONEY
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/f/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=329

THE WORLD'S ECONOMIC CLIMATE INDEX By IFO
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US BANKING POST LOSSES - UK BANKING TECHNICALLY INSOLVENT
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/f/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=318

MONEY — QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS BY FATHER CHARLES COUGHLIN
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THE FED'S BLUEPRINT FOR MARKET INTERVENTION
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/f/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=331

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BE SURE TO SEND THESE AROUND.

A LOT OF OUR FRIENDS ARE GOING DOWN HARD AND FAST.

It is bad allover the world
Take a look at this.

1. EU states monitor spread of civil unrest - 22.01.2009 - 20:17
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EU member states are "intensively" monitoring the risk of spreading civil
unrest in Europe, as riots over the economic crisis erupt in Iceland
following street clashes in Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Greece.

http://euobserver.com/9/27460/?rk=1

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In Northern Virginia outside the beltway ...

Things are mighty slow (I'm a retailer).. I hear of people losing jobs almost every day. Little firms, especially small construction companies are shutting down. Typically, this area is less prone to recession because of the DC spendthrifts. Not this time. I see the big D in our future. God help those who haven't had the means to prepare.

Lots of people will be surviving on deer meat around here! That's a real blessing though I don't think it's enough for everyone.

In my opinion, the forests

In my opinion, the forests will be picked clean of all relatively easy game in short order if things ever get so bad that food is too expensive or not available. I don't think people will be able to rely on eating venison for long...

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Hunt the Hunters

A Community Will Protect its food source at all cost

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Economy in NC

I have a good job and I own my own web hosting business so I don't have the perspective of a lost job. However, for the heck of it I applied at two companies by emailing them and one offered me a job after a short phone interview. I didn't take it as it wasn't what I was looking for but I felt good knowing I could get another job quite easily.

Maybe it's my skills, I don't know. I have been in graphics, internet and marketing for almost 20 years.

In my close circles around town, everyone is busy. One guy has a sign shop and is always behind. My friend does networking and he's picking up new clients without trying. Other does consulting and he is in high demand. Another paints high-end paint jobs on cars and he has a 3 month waiting list. Not much has changed for us.

The two things I really see a problem around here is new cars and new homes. Those markets aren't doing well. I live in a new area and there is a lot of new homes for sale that are pre-built. 2 just sold this month, none 5-6 months before that. So things are turning around I think.

I think used cars are getting bought up and older low-cost homes are still not terrible. But prices are down to 2005 levels.

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A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. - Ben Franklin

Northern AZ here. You totally don't want to be in AZ

I'm up in the mountains, NAZ, the high desert.

3 things make up our economy: tourism, real estate and retirees. Each sector has taken a massive hit even though these Northern towns have been affluent retirement communities for years.

The first wave of retail closures have hit. Almost all mon-n-pop shops. Everyone who was doing a marginal retail business is now under water.

Restaurant business is miserable. For once, you can't get that "fall back job" waiting tables. And visit Walmart in my town. Our grandparents are there working their way through "retirement". Not to sound racist, but in other towns these jobs are filled by the poor and the minorities. Not here. Walmart has suddenly started to look like a good career move.

The entire real estate industry just folded in on itself. I get calls from out of work realtors looking for jobs every day. Unfortunately, when your only skill was looking pretty, driving a fancy car and helping people fill out forms, there's noplace for you to go now.

The tradesmen are hurting bad. Only the very top builders and tradesmen are working, and they do this by laying off anyone that's not married into the family and focusing on renovation and remodeling. If you are an out of work plumber, electrician, carpenter, painter, drywaller, satellite installer, any of these---DON'T come here. There's nothing for you.

Due to international competition, the beef industry has been on decline here for a decade. The only cowboys we got now are all hat and no cattle.

I wonder if unaffected areas such as the coasts are just riding on recycled credit and government bailouts. But I'll tell you one thing. Our state has a very long tradition of self-employment and self-reliance and NOBODY THAT ACTUALLY WORKS FOR A LIVING IS GETTING BAILED OUT. SO YOU CAN KISS THE INDEPENDENT BUSINESSMAN GOODBYE.

Isn't that the Plan?

"NOBODY THAT ACTUALLY WORKS FOR A LIVING IS GETTING BAILED OUT. SO YOU CAN KISS THE INDEPENDENT BUSINESSMAN GOODBYE."

Then all you have left is the dependent out-of-work business man asking the government for a job and for food. They are too hungry to fight and willing to do anything for food. Even (in)voluntary servitude. That is as close to the ultimate power over the people as you can get...

South Eastern PA

It started with Bennigan's restaurant closing down after 20 some years. I always remember the fun times there with my family.
Then a shopping center near me lost Linens and Things, Filenes basement and now Circuit City. (all the stores are in a row...weird)
My mom does advertising for the local paper and says she's never seen such a bad downturn in sales.
Oh and the company that owns the paper is about to go under...The corporate control of local daily and weekly newspapers in my area has proven disastrous. Over 50 local and weekly newspapers were shuttered, usually without even 2 hours notice to employees.

I guess the powers that be want all newspapers to be online so they can control free speech and the media/mindset.

I'm in Drexel Hill

Over the past two years I've seen about 10 small, retail stores close up shop in a ten block radius. It's like all the neighborhood stores are now closing up. I see opportunity in a year or two when the people who own those stores either foreclose or rent just to pay the mortgage. Can you imagine a "Liberty Library" or "Freedom Food" store near you?

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Start getting freedom today by dumping Federal Reserve Notes, Stocks, Banks and anything made outside the USA. Buy precious metals, real estate, businesses, food and guns and get your business community to use local or sound currenc

I'm in Springfield and it's

I'm in Springfield and it's funny you mention "Freedom Food" store...I've been tossing around that kind of idea. Maybe something of a "Hunker Down" / Survival store too. I miss I. Goldbergs that store was great.

Everything's OK

by: Luke the Drifter

I went to the country - just the other day
To see my Uncle Bill and sorta pass the time away
I asked him how he'd been - since last, I'd passed his way
He rubbed his chin - here's what he had to say.

"My wife's been sick - the young'ns, too
And I'm durn near - down with the flu
The cow's gone dry - and them hens won't lay
But we're still a-livin' - so EVER' THING'S Okay.

The hogs took the cholera and they've all done died
The bees got mad - and they left the hive
The weevils got the corn and the rain rotted the hay
But - we're still a-livin' - so EVER'THING'S Okay.

The porch rotted down - that's more expense
The durned old mule - he tore down the fence
The mortgage is due and - I can't pay
But - we're still a-livin' - so EVER'THING'S Okay.

The cow broke in the field and eat up the beans
The durn rabbits - they got the turnip greens
And my Ma-in-law just moved in to stay
But - we're still a-livin' - so EVER'THING'S Okay.

My land's so poor - so hard and "yeller"
You have to set on a sack of fetilizer to raise an "umbreller"
And it rains out here - nearly ever' day
But - we're still a-livin' - so EVER'THING'S Okay.

The well's gone dry and I have to tote the water
Up from the spring - about a mile and a quarter
My helper, he quit - for the lack of pay
But - we're still a-livin' - so EVER'THING'S Okay.

The house it leaks - it needs a new top
When it rains - it wets ever'thing we got
The chimney fell down - just yesterday
But - we're still a-livin' - so EVER'THING'S Okay.

The corn meals gone and the meat's run out
Got nothin' to kill to put in the smokehouse
The preacher's comin' Sunday - to spend the day
But - we're still a-livin' - so EVER'THING'S Okay.

The canned stuff's spoiled - else the jar's got broke
And all we got left is one old Billy goat
We're gonna have a new baby about the first of May
But - we're still a-livin' - so EVER'THING'S Okay.

My crop it rotted - in the ground
I asked for another loan but the banker turned me down
But - we're still a-livin' and we're prayin' for better days
So - after all, ever'thing's in purty good shape."

Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio