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Ron Paul Cage Match Against Three Keynesian "Morning Joeys" 1/27/09

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Ron obliterated the economic ignoramuses on MSNBC's Morning Joe:
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Keynesism is not an economic theory. It is a weapon of political conspiracy. Read about it at http://keynesatharvard.org (free online e-book originally published by Veritas Foundation)
"Economic Deception as a Political Credo"

"Keynes in the preface to his magnum opus admitted that he used “changes in terminology” and “changes in language.” His official biographer reported that Keynes used two “sets of terminology” which dismayed readers who had read his previous book. He added that readers “feared getting thereby into a terminological muddle beyond repair.” This is not a Keynesian invention. Political sociologists (mostly Fabian [SOCIALISTS]) regularly use the ploy of changing their professional jargon to conceal ideological patterns."

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"As a sodomistic pedophiliac, he ranged throughout the Mediterranean area in search of boys for himself and his fellow socialists. Taking full advantage of the bitter poverty and abysmal ignorance in North Africa, the Middle East, and Italy, he purchased the bodies of children prostituted for English shillings."

If you are not OUTRAGED, you're not paying attention!

If you are not OUTRAGED, you're not paying attention!

A year ago these

A year ago these chuckleheaded morons were laughing it up, saying the economy was in great shape, while Dr. Paul and Peter Schiff were warning of economic doom.

Now the know-nothings correct him, saying we need 'real world' solutions and chiding him about ideas appropriate to a "perfect society" (I'm guessing the word they were groping for was 'Utopian', but they were too damn mentally challenged to dredge up the word.)

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The Big Fraud

This interview is a great example of how the media organ of the bird of prey guides the thinking of its unsuspecting audience and outrages its informed audience which is aware of the deluge of lies being poured out on the American people. Ron is ALWAYS giving solutions to the problems, but true to his Doctor nature he always DIAGNOSES the DISEASE then prescribes the TREATMENT. The people who are "interviewing" Dr. Paul are trying to manipulate his message at every turn, (that guy pretending to not understand Dr. Paul was the biggest con job of all in my opinion), after Dr. Paul concisely, and very quickly I might ad, responds to the questions and fleshes out WHY we are in this mess (which we are constantly lied to about), he is attacked for not having any practical solutions to our severe economic problems. I don't know about you but I heard Dr. Paul give SEVERAL solutions, End the Personal and Business Income Tax, End The Empire, End The Fed. With the time he gets he is forced to talk a 100 miles an hour to disseminate as much of the TRUTH about GOVERNMENT LIES AND PROPAGANDA as possible. Folks who sit here and criticize Dr Paul for not giving solutions are either A.) falling for the lies and propaganda or B.) Ignorant or C.) Trolls

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
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Most of these posts are just doublespeak psychobabble tripe, Dr. Paul spoke eloquently and gave clear cause-effect-solution answers. The problem isn't him it's you people!

I agree. Dr. Paul has really

I agree. Dr. Paul has really crafted his skill of dialogue since the Republican primary debates of 08. A lot of times back then I just face palmed because I knew what he was trying to say made perfect sense, but he just didn't have the eloquence to say it. Very unlike how he is now.

Agreed

Agreed... somewhat. He's gotten a lot better but he still has a long way to go. I agree with the previous poster that the guy pretending to not understand was lying, but I do think he was trying to bring it back down to a level that simple viewers would understand as well. Ron Paul seems to have trouble dumbing down his talk like other politicians.

It's sad though that is even a necessity to be successful. Sad state of affairs when a great majority of the American population fail to understand some of the driving forces of our country.

Why wouldn't Paul answer?

I was looking forward to Ron Paul answering their question about what he would do. Instead, he was very vague and kept going back to what they're doing now and the consequences of those actions and what you don't want to do. We understand that, and that's what they were trying to tell him. What they, and I, and probably all of us, want to know is what should be done unless his grand scheme is just liquidation.

Because of your assertion

Because of your assertion that Ron Paul DID NOT answer the question about what he would do about this economic crisis you are either A.) falling for the lies and propaganda or B.) Ignorant or C.) A Troll Refer to me about post for explanation.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

He did answer it.

He said end the Income Tax and cut spending to levels that it will no longer constitute necessary revenue.

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This bluedog character is not even worth responding to.

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

Here's what Paul would do:

FREE THE PEOPLE from the ridiculousness of the federal government.

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You've been here 24 minutes

You've been here 24 minutes and all your posts are about how RP isnt giving answers, suspiciously the same as the talking heads ignoring what he said throughout the interview about what needs to be done. What branch of government are you posting from?

I got a new name, the old

I got a new name, the old one was irrelevant as RP did not win the Presidency.

I am not the only one on this forum with their heads not stuck in a hole. Ron Paul is helping the MSM marginalize him. Those "talking heads" you refer to don't have to invite Ron Paul to their shows at all. They could easily ignore him and he'd fade away in the minds of the public much more easily than by continually asking him to give his input on the situation. His rhetoric during the nomination process has awarded him some level of recognition and authority on the economy - at least in terms of providing a counter argument - but that could quickly fade if he exclusively plays the negative tune and speaks in generalities.

You can hear a short laugh in the background as they keep asking him what he WOULD do but Paul keeps returning to what should not be done.

This should be obvious.

He actually came off just fine.

He looked smart, they looked stupid. One of them even admitted he was talking "way over his head."

Their frustration and contention that he was not giving positive answers was based purely on the fact that he wasn't giving them the answers they wanted to hear.

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Ron Paul ate all 3 of them for breakfast

he did not help them marginalize him. he taught them all a lesson they were desperate for it too.

"I got a new name"

and if we buy that, you probably have some oceanfront property in Arizona you'd like to sell.

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

Yeah, Bluedog....

Which is it? Are you here to "stir up the pot" or are you really just ignorant and in dire need of a Ron Paul education? If the latter is true, we'll be glad to help. If the former is true, please take a hike. We're busy trying to figure out how to get our country back.

Enough of the name

Enough of the name calling... I have to agree with the newby. Dr. Paul had a real chance to serve it up nice and warm to them but he missed his chance. Of course, we can see he had answered them already. But when asked point blank he got caught off guard and back peddled. That was obvious. he made a nice recovery after that though.

I was still left with wanting more from the Doc... but he did very well all things considered. He's a very wise man.

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Thank you

It's sad to see that anyone who cares to think for themselves and doesn't walk the Ron Paul line exactly so gets attacked as ignorant, a troll, etc, etc. I expected more from the people who daily criticize others for being brainwashed and following their party's marching orders.

Sometimes, the best way to win is to play their game - even just mildly. Ron Paul should have answered them more effectively. Every interview he's granted is a golden opprotunity to spread his message. We all know what he's talking about - we've been following and supporting him for a long time now. We're not the ones that need convincing so what's good enough - or spectacular - for us may not be for the many others that we should be targeting and trying to sell our message to.

If you can't understand that then I don't know what to tell you.

you are wrong

This interview was the biggest pwnfest I've ever seen, just because one guy was leaping for any chance to be rude doesn't mean Ron wasn't answering.

Ron Paul handed all 3 of them, their asses, and I quote: "Here is your ass, have a nice day" -Ron Paul.

You are very good at

You are very good at insulting Ron Paul and his ability to spread the message.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

They're Clueless

It's like their ears are plugged. He gave them REAL solutions and they responded by asking ridiculous questions about robots on the beach and brickmasons fixing highways.

Worthless blabbering heads... clowns. They don't want to let the FED accept ANY blame for all the wounds it's caused, yet they want to blame someone else for trying to stop the bleeding.

Everything happening was forecasted by Dr. Paul, yet they still want to keep their heads in the sand. They're either idiots or liars.

Wow...

Dr Paul is brilliant! He's giving them the answers and they're just not listening, they're not getting it. Or are they? One of them even claims that Dr Paul is talking over his head. Is that some kind of act? Why does it seem like only a small percentage of us actually gets it? It's so frustrating.

That's what I thought: this

That's what I thought: this is frustrating. But its because Dr. Paul's not towing the Obama line or the GOP line. He's doing his own thing, suggesting unhappy REAL solutions instead of the goody-goody FALSe solutions designed to bring us another level of communist central planning. I'm amazed at Dr. Paul's ability to talk this over and over and over to these types of dunderheads, but then, he obviously enjoys it. So keep talking, Doctor! Some of us are listening!

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

Just my .02

I am an ardent R. Paul supporter, but Im beginning to suspect that these TV interviews are ultimately going to work against him and the cause. E.G: Neal Cavuto is always talking to Paul, but I listened to Cavuto on Hannity the other day, and its like Cavuto doesnt pay any attention to Paul and the state of things. Cavuto thinks things are not all that bad. This interview above wasnt that great in my book, they kept trying to get him to say what he would do and what would the consequences be. We all know that even if we got the whole country behind Paul's ideas, that there would be some hurt and pain, fixing the system. Im beginning to think that the MSM is trying to get Paul to "screw the pooch" and say something that they can slam him on. Frankly, I believe in his ideas about fixing the economy, but that isnt going to stop the value of my home from tanking to the point that I will never be able to sell it for nearly what I paid for it in my lifetime. If Americans start hearing that that is what Paul's plan would entail, then they will crucify him and the cause. I think thats what the MSM wants IMHO.
Be careful Dr. Paul. Be very careful....

cavuto

Cavuto has to tow the party line to keep job.

Then why bother with these fools...?

They interview him, then marginalize him. My point is that there comes a time that a struggle needs redirection. Maybe we should just all step back and let it all come tumbling down, if thats what's meant to be. I dont know. Sometimes I just dont know whats right or wrong anymore. I believe in Dr Paul, but sometimes I just dont see his economic ideas ever coming to fruition. That sounds negative I know, but maybe if we are right, then we should just take the line of "I told you" when it happens. I dont want that, but you have to admit, Dr Paul, if he continues on the MSM interview is going to have to take it to a higher level, than just "constitutional principles" and "sound money", catch phrases and buzzwords. Hes is going to have to start speaking about implementation. He cant just keep going on about how bad the things the government are doing now are going to make things. A plan, a solution, requires a plan of action, not constant belaboring of what we keep doing wrong.....

"He cant just keep going on

"He cant just keep going on about how bad the things the government are doing now are going to make things. A plan, a solution, requires a plan of action, not constant belaboring of what we keep doing wrong....."

Bingo.

It is their unending mission

I agree with your assessment of the MSM's M.O. It is their goal to discredit him and other opponents of the red-white-and-blue party.

But, that is where he has an opportunity to head them off at the pass. He needs to get to that stuff BEFORE they can throw dirt on him. He needs to state clearly what it would take to correct this and why it's the right way, and RIGHT THEN before they can make it sound like that's ALL he has to offer, he needs to SELL all the GOOD stuff that will happen AFTERWARD. Talk about how great it would be for a while. Then, in summary and conclusion he can make some more comparisons with the Keynesian ideas, always putting the FREE MARKET in a positive, superior light as it should be.

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