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Caught About 5 Minutes of that "Blowhard" Limbaugh's Show Today

Five minutes was all I could take.

Had to laugh when he was talking about the Democrats and how their stimulus package was going to devalue the dollar and lead to inflation and that nobody is talking about this. Of course, no mention of the first stimulus packages and $700B bailout passed by a democratic Congress with most Republicans on board and signed by Bush .

Wonder if he has been hibernating in a cave for the past couple of years and didn't get a chance to hear Ron Paul do nothing but talk about this...overspending and devaluing dollar?




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Anybody tune in to Alan Colmbes' radio show?

Most of his calls are from conservatives who berate him. He lashes back. He sounds drawn and bitter.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

It's very obvious to me that this movement hates the GOP...

I read it in every post about Limbaugh, FOX, Beck, et al.

I don't have a problem with that. There's really quite a lot to hate. Even conservatives should hate the GOP at this writing for destroying their own political movement. And we are not conservatives. We are libertarians.

There is a lot of bitter anger, hatred, "I'll never trust that f&%$#ing (fill in blank of conservative talking head)", and so on.

Why, then, must we persist in this asinine "GOP Trojan Horse Strategy" that will never work? Why do we have to feed the false Left-Right paradigm that goes on forever, round and round? The two-party duopoly?

Because Ron Paul stays in the Republican Party? Ron Paul has a reason to stay in the Republican Party. He is a senior U.S. Congressman on key committees. It's logical for him to stay there. Is it for the rest of us?

Why can't we go our own way? Choose (or create) a Third Party and run with it? Have something resembling philosophical solidarity instead of the constant backbiting and bickering we have now?

Yes, it's hard to succeed with a Third Party. Is that the only reason we aren't doing it? Because if it is, that says a lot about all of us.

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As a former Libertarian state legislator

I know that it is possible through sustained effort to make headway against the two-party charade. However, a great deal of common sense and professionalism is required, and therein lies the rub.

The Libertarian Party attracts many who feel ostracized by society largely because of their own defective interpersonal skills. They don't know how to make others feel welcome or build confidence and are not even interested in doing so. They bridle at normalcy, are obsessed with asserting and getting agreement for their most extreme positions, and tend to drive out people who have social skills and common sense.

Only by assembling and maintaining a core of skilled professional, practical, goal-oriented activists who do all the important work and exert control over planning, outreach, events, and publicity can enough forward momentum be achieved to build, fund, and successfully promote a viable third-party effort. Otherwise the misfits are in charge and the endeavor is relegated to the <1% category.

I know this sounds too authoritarian for many but the palpable damage clueless misfits are able to wreak on any organization is enormous. The Ron Paul Revolution had plenty of problems with this, for instance the idiot who thought it was a good idea to pelt Sean Hannity with a snowball so our entire revolution could be portrayed as a bunch of rowdies on national TV right before the crucial New Hampshire primary. An agent saboteur could hardly have been more effective.

(Oh yes, it also helps if that core of solid citizen activists is independently wealthy. I had to leave politics because all the activism was ruinous to my personal finances.)

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

We did create a third party

--"Why can't we go our own way? Choose (or create) a Third Party and run with it?"

We did. Many. They all failed to gather more than 1% of the vote.

The only viable solution is a takeover of the GOP. When the Democrats go down in flames, and they will, Ron Paul and his ideas will be leading the Republican Party.

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1% in the presidential election, you mean?

That's true.

Now tell me--how many presidential votes did our movement get on election day in the Republican Party?

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A lot more than 1%

--"Now tell me--how many presidential votes did our movement get on election day in the Republican Party?"

A lot more than 1%. Now with the neocon strategy (of spend and war) thoroughly discredited, the time is ripe for Ron Paul's philosophy to take over the party. Ron Paul ain't a dumb man and he's achieved more success than anyone in the libertarian movement. I don't see why people here are dubious of his CFL strategy.

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I meant on Election Day.

How many Republican presidential votes did OUR MOVEMENT get on Election Day in November 2009?

I believe the number was around 16,000 votes, if I recall correctly.

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For President? We weren't running anyone

Well, we didn't have anyone running for Pres in November 2009 because that date has yet to pass. But in November 2008 we also didn't have anyone running for Pres so I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.

We did however elect several people into Congress, and we've taken over many state Republican Parties so far. The tide is turning thanks to Ron Paul, and thanks to the idiots in Washington flushing the economy down the toilet. If we can have a Boston Tea Party moment I think things will start to happen rather quickly.

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Yes, plenty of distractions.

I say the global melt down is second to the poisoning of the planet.

The poisoning of the planet even gets grandma out of the rocker

The world is rallying against the oppression of Monzanto poisons and GMO, the very death ! We must shut down Monsanto, and proclaim that anything they did in the last 60 years as void on paper.
Take back our farm lands.
Bust up the farm lands into 5 to 10 acre plots, and give em away for free to those who will clean the soils and return to traditional methods of farming. Plant orchards! Get off the cow thing.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

We could do what you suggest with government land.

Over 20% of the geographical area of the US is government land.

Aside from important National Parks like Yosemite and Yellowstone, there isn't any reason for that land to be non-privatized. Much of the rest is desert; some of it created by outright boondoggles (like Clinton's Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument).

I agree with you that homesteading and farming are the answer to our real environmental problems.

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Ron Paul is essentially the

Ron Paul is essentially the leader of this movement, this revolution. If RP recommended that we support the Libertarian party, my guess is that they would have new members signing up in droves.

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I tend to agree

with alot of the "anti-'Republican" sentiments.

Perhaps some want to take over the Republican Party, maybe just to spite them for their past actions. And that's a viable reason for some.

However, I think there's a real advantage to gaining control of one of the major parties, because of the many barriers that both parties have erected to stifle competition, and because of the fact that large voting blocks are "brain dead" and just pull the voting lever for "their party". And that can be a real advantage in an election scenario.

The question remains as to whether it could actually be accomplished, or if it is an impossibility that would sap resources and efforts to no avail.
I don't know the answer.

But I don't have a problem with anyone who wants to work at it.

I recently read The

I recently read The Discovery of Freedom by Wilder. The author talked about the reasons why most people should not have the right to vote. She even suggested that most people are too busy making a living to learn everything they need to know in order to vote intelligently.

When I think back to how I voted before I discovered Ron Paul, I have to agree.

Last week I received an email from the Iowa C4L leader. Here is a excerpt from the email:

"A group called National Popular Vote is pushing a bill in the Iowa Legislature that gives Iowa's electoral votes to the winner of the nationwide election. Overtime this will destroy another vital component of the U.S. Constitution and its system of checks and balances with diffusions of power.

So far New Jersey, Illinois, Maryland and Hawaii have passed laws mandating participation in a compact that goes into effect when the number of states adopting this method of assigning presidential electors reaches 271 electoral votes.

If passed a few big states will decide who becomes president. California, Texas, Florida, Ohio, Illinois and a few other states will become vote generating incubators for big-money political consultants. They will focus on vote-hauling and other schemes to generate extraordinary turn out in these urban dominated states so as to win the popular vote at the national level.

Iowa will be ignored. The national political machines and their operators will take whatever minimal vote they get out of a state like Iowa, and focus all their activities on the big, vote-rich urban states.

Just say, for example in 2012 that Iowa goes 70% to 30% for Ron Paul, but the national popular vote goes 50.5% for Barack Obama and 49.5% for Ron Paul, then all of Iowa's electoral votes will be give to Barack Obama."...............

It is because of Ron Paul, that I know that this was not what the founders intended. Our founders were opposed to a pure democracy and therefore created a Republic. Before RP, and previously one of the sheeple, I clearly wasn't knowledgeable enough to vote on this issue.

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Ron Paul said that the Republicans all voting AGAINST the..

stimulus plan had given him some hope. However, where were they when Bush was in power? Why weren't they also voting against all of the BIG spending bills during the last 8 years?
I agree with comments below that the repubs. sound like libertarians when they are out of power.
These talk show people are performers, after ratings, and advertisers. They will say what they need to do to keep their job and expand their sphere of influence on the radio waves. They are not looking out for us, only their own pocketbooks. Sounds like our current government, doesn't it! We need to get rid of them all!

maybe he was relapsed into

maybe he was relapsed into his pain killers at that time..

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
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I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

He's just okay

He did say something I had to agree with recently. He said the repubs just offered a "different flavor" of big government.

That is the only honest remark I've heard him make in years, but I do not listen to him every day or even every month.

It's been said

that "Republicans like to sound more 'libertarian' when they are out of power, but as soon as they get into power and govern, that goes out the window".

I agree... "When governments

I agree...

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

That is true

If they would have voted against the Bush bailout last year it would not have passed. Now they vote against bailouts when they know their vote will not make a difference and it will pass anyway.

They are liars.

180 turnaround

I've been on vacation since February 1st and have been in my vehicle much of that time. My husband has been listening to Rush Limbaugh. It seems like his program has been more serious than before. (Not so much of the parodying going on.)

This is where I admit that I may have been wrong about his show. I might have been too much of a purist. I couldn't get over how Limbaugh marginalized RP last year.

Since Limbaugh hasn't gotten into his warmongering rants lately, I have been impressed by what he is saying about capitalism and Obama's socialism. Since the rest of the MSM seems lovestruck by Obama, we can use more voices out there speaking the truth. I hope Rush will stay on this track.

Any support is good

I doubt that at the end of the day, Ron Paul will ever be given his due credit, but I'd rather these guys wake up now than never. In the game of looking good, politicians will eventually adopt Ron Paul's views because you can only suppress the truth for so long, or look like an idiot. Obama has already adopted Paul's tactics to draw support, so its only a matter of time before he is forced to see things Paul's way. I'm optimistic that the force of Paul's ideas will become common sense to Dem's and Repub's, given enough suffering...

hm.

I'm pretty sure that Rush Limbaugh soundly criticized the bailout during the end days of the Bush administration.

True

I know he's voiced his support for Ayn Rand on his show and he has ridiculed the bailouts every-time I've heard him, which isn't often. From what I can gather, his major point of disagreement with Ron Paul would be foreign interventionism. So I don't see why someone is criticizing him here when he is voicing something philosophically in line with Ron Paul.

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Hey BagofBalls hows your gov't contract going?

Next time you in Virginia stop by for a chat.
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and very well paid for his efforts. he is a total sell out to the powers that be. may god have mercy on his soul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I have to agree - RUSH is a shill for the NWO

He gives just enough bait to make you wonder if he is a genuine conservative and then switches up and goes global. What a traitor.

It can't be...can it?

It can't be...can it?

Rush who?

We all know in this circle that he is irrelevant and he will become more irrelevant with time, don't waist your 5 minutes on this TRAITOR!

He betrayed the conservatives loooong time ago, he should be forgoten and ignored until he comes to his senses as Dr. Paul says about those who call themselves "conservatives" and are in a state of denial!

He jumped on the neo-con bus

as soon as he could.

This is a false argument by the OP

What the OP is saying is that Rush Limbaugh failed to mention the previous bailout. Well, he probably "failed" to mention a lot of things - or rather, no one can recount all relevant past history at all times, least of all a talk radio host. Today in this 5 minute block he happened to be talking about the current bailout BS.

So I find this whole attack on Rush Limbaugh rather spurious, considering there are actual thieves right now (bankers) planning their next heist.

And I'm really wondering why this thing was posted on the front page. This post deserved to whither. Sometimes I question the judgement of the moderators here.

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Big Bump for Cactus

For freedom of DP speech. To heck with more DP censorship. I for one am sick of it. Enough.

Sorry bbagnell, but I find this whole attack on Cactus' piece rather spurious. ;-)