92 Grandparents refused by court ot raise grandkids--Kids given up to adoption to Gay couple!

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1130066/They-say-old...

This is so wrong on so many levels. Even if you remove the issue of the kids being adopted by a gay couple, it's pure evil for any government to do this--"For the welfare of the children"

We should have never, ever helped Great Britain in either WW1 or WW2. They have become a modern-day Nanny tyranny, putting the state in place of the family. And we are not far behind.

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What's the purpose of

What's the purpose of pointing out that the couples gay in your title? Does that make things worse or something?

The information in the article is so scant

It is hard to judge or have an opinion on the matter. Myself if a couple is too old to take care of the children and the social worker brings a case that the grandparents even if loving and caring cannot take care of themselves or the children. The court must rule in the best interests of the children.. The assumption is that while parents and relatives have a special relationship and responsibility to the children if they are not able to take care of the kids then it is appropriate and indeed highly ethical to take the children and give them a loving home that will help them become better young people and then adults (i.e. citizens).

The day when Parents owned their children is over . Children are people and the community as a whole judges the standards of which is "in the best interests" in the 16th century people owned children.. worked them etc.. Children were owned and not protected unless orphaned. We are way better off with the view that Children do not belong to their parents. They have (gay or straight, even bi) a special responsibility to Children to be protected for the health of the world and the government in question.

I am sure I will be flamed but the need to feel like you own your kids and have exclusive rights to them is long pass e and an unethical concept. You do not own children.. We must love and care for them even if others who by blood should but cannot take care of them due to finances etc..

My opinion is a bit different. I really do think that the best

scenerio here is for the child to be in a home where he is loved. That should be first and foremost. Secondly, the grandparents should be allowed to have visitation with the child while they still can.

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bullshit.. wake up !!! you

bullshit.. wake up !!! you do not break up a family period!

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So then what happens to the children when the grandparents

are no longer able to take care of them?
~Your perception becomes your reality~

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What makes you think grandparents can't provide the love

or are not providing the love????

I know for a fact that my grand children absolutely adore me... and would it ever happen that my grand children are put in a spot as the 2 around which this hit the news headlines, I would fight the decisions right up to world stage!!!

I am sure that they CAN provide love. However, what happens to

the children when the grandparents can no longer care for them? I think they deserve to be in a stable situation with a long-term goal.

~Your perception becomes your reality~

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If the grandparents were in their 70's or 80's

that would be almost a reasonable question. These grandparents are 46 and 59!!!

Sorry... You got to learn to read in between the words and look behind the screens, called 3 DM perception.

BTW... Unfortunately, but many children lose one or both of their parents who are much younger. As Sierra said: you just do not break up families!!

stupid what if questions..

stupid what if questions.. absolutly dumb!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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This is not about gay couples versus older couples

(family at that), this is just a further nail in the coffin of the moral values of family life.
The NWO has worked actively on destroying families since the sixties. Morals and family values are not wanted, close relations are not wanted,, make it wild, and sex, and confuse people about what is really important, all in preparation of serving only one Master, The Illuminati!!.

Of course there is no doubt in my mind that grand parents, or siblings of a so-called unfit parent should be considered first. Blood is thicker than water!!

It is also an indication from which age group onwards we have to look to be the target of 'useless eaters'.

But making it into a perhaps gay campaign is just another ploy to distract of what is really going on.
Nothing is what it seems..

careful semper.. Rhino will

careful semper.. Rhino will call you a bigot!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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here in the USA they do the

here in the USA they do the same thing, the state through Title IV-D unilateral application, changes the status of you and your children, you may not even get a voice to fight against this. the application laels the children as "dependent" so the state then excersizes it parenz parenta power and acts on the best interest of the child. This is a huge scam!!
I see divorce disolutions as being one of the greatest ways government violates peoples rights. People get divorced and in the filing, they list the children as dependent. Then the state gets involved and steals kids!!

we did a show on it with Michael badnarik.
http://67.212.67.19/PubPodcast//lighting_the_fires/0116091.mp3

You cannot STEAL what you do not own!

Parents do not own their children. Too much abuse was derived in that philosophy.

Under a communist regime

the family is to be broken down, as it was in China; women, men, boys, girls all in separate dorms with no family contact. The purpose? Indoctrination into loyalty to the state above all else, with no family ties. Might see more of this and worse.

I have nothing against

gay couples adopting; what troubles me about this is the reasoning concerning the grandparents' ages and health--the gay couple could die tomorrow in a car accident or some other way...or develop health issues...or anybody else who adopted these children...
Also, imo, family raising family should be a priority...government needs to get their noses out of it...

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Agree with you, but this sounds like a core belief of yours.

Some on this site are saying we need to challenge our core beliefs and be "open" new ideas. What say you to this?

I don't think we need

to challenge a grandparents love. Blood always comes first. NWO devalues older generation. Very dangerous idiotic thing to do to a society.

I agree, but this kind of stuff in not new,,,,Remember...Terry

Schiavo? Blood did not come first in that case either. NWO also goes against the majority...Remember Proposition 8? The majority ruled on that 3 times in California, but that was not sufficient. Neither blood lines nor majority matters to NeoCons.

But with Terry

although I disagreed with the decision, HER HUSBAND was the one who stood. That does have some validity. I also do not equat directly neocons and NWO. They greatly overlap, but not

Look what they have in their schools

I noticed this story on the sidebar when reading about the adoption case.

School bosses under fire after inviting a pole-dancer to perform for 14-year-old pupils

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1131522/Teachers-sla...