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Rahm Emanuel, if you are on No Fly List, No Gun!

Submitted by sharpsteve on Sat, 01/31/2009 - 18:22
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May 15, 2007 Congressman Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) speaking at DC's annual Stand Up For a Safe America event sponsored by the Brady Center says if your name is on the terrorist no fly list you should not be allowed to own a gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJBZZKlvrP4

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Why are there so many names on the U.S. government's terrorist list?

In September 2007, the Inspector General of the Justice Department reported that the Terrorist Screening Center (the FBI-administered organization that consolidates terrorist watch list information in the United States) had over 700,000 names in its database as of April 2007 - and that the list was growing by an average of over 20,000 records per month.1 (See also this new March 2008 report.2 )
http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/reports/plus/a0816/final.pdf

By those numbers, the list now has over one million names on it. Terrorist watch lists must be tightly focused on true terrorists who pose a genuine threat. Bloated lists are bad because:

* they ensnare many innocent travelers as suspected terrorists, and
* because they waste screeners' time and divert their energies from looking for true terrorists.
http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/watchlistcounter.html

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an8Moh3xuUs

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Rahm wants to get his ass handed to him.

Submitted by Mathew4RonPaul2008 on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 04:17.

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Remember what the government

Submitted by john2k on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 03:26.

Remember what the government did with the Intelligence Authorization Act of 2004 when they redefined "financial institution"? It was very interesting how their new definition applied to old laws that were based on the true definition.

"Financial institution" was redefined by the government as: a bank, trust company, credit union, a delicatessen, a bodega, a restaurant, hotel, casino, travel agency, your lawyers office, your doctors office, your telephone company, your computer server, the post office, etc. To learn more about why that is significant, watch the following 35 minute speech by Judge Andrew Napolitano: http://www.reason.tv/video/show/178.html

So, with all that in mind. What if the government was to put all these new laws into effect such as if you're on the terrorist no fly list, terrorist this or that, spent money with an organization that is suspected of being connected to terrorism, etc, etc....

What if they do that, then redefine the terms terrorist and terrorism?

It's quite possible that in the future, wreckless driving will be labeled as terroristic driving, or spanking your kid in public would be family terrorism instead of domestic abuse, etc, etc.

What if the penalty, for whatever they want to call it, is no gun, no drivers license, no passport, no freedom (?), etc, etc? Then anyone who is convicted of whatever crime is labeled and losing all their liberties?

I totally wouldn't put it past the government to modify the dictionary again.

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Submitted by MMJ Ministry on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 02:31.

5 words 4 u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTdO-w3xnpw
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Well, since this ridiculous list just grows and grows anyway...

Submitted by Jiminy Cricket on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 19:50.

...just get it overwith and put everybody on it.

If everybody's on the list, nobody gets a gun.

Gun control problem solved, right?

Geez. First this Rahm Emanuel wants mandatory national service, now this no fly list thing being connected with gun ownership. Enough already, Rahm.

...and to think they gave this guy a song...

Lasting gun control is only advanced under the GOP.

Submitted by Kevin Tuma on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 00:47.

We still have the instant background check given to us by G.H.W. Bush.

We do not have the Clinton-Feinstein assault weapons act. It was allowed to sunset, because it faced opposition from Republicans.

Everything is party partisanism. If the Democrats in the Obama Administration touch gun control, they will be destroyed politically.

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I don't want gun control.

Submitted by Jiminy Cricket on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 01:44.

I was being sarcastic because of this ever-growing no-fly list, and now this Rahm Emanuel apparently wanting to limit gun ownership rights based on it.

~shiver

A song?

Submitted by sharpsteve on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 00:16.

I had not heard that.
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Yep, somebody came up with a mushy song for this guy.

Submitted by Jiminy Cricket on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 01:30.

Here's the link to legalizeliberty's thread on it. http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81377

Brace yourself. Listen to the words. I wrote them down in a post on that thread. Very bizarre the way people are lauding this guy like that.

Thanks a lot. I just threw

Submitted by sharpsteve on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 09:57.

Thanks a lot. I just threw up my breakfast.
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Updated the Video

Submitted by sharpsteve on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 16:20.

Added Annotations. Let me know what you think.
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Well we can always boycott the airlines...

Submitted by TheTruthWillSet... on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 10:39.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

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Have not flown for years - Carol Gotbaum ws the last straw

Submitted by paul4won on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 16:25.

Death penalty without judge or jury for being drunk and obnoxious just seems a bit harsh to me. I don't think I will be supporting the airlines until they stop treating me like a criminal for flying.

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Well, it sounds like...

Submitted by dlind on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 19:37.

she sort of did it to herself. I'll agree that they were negligent but she as an individual has some responsibility for her outrageous state of inebriation.

I would also like to point out that letting someone in her state onto an Airplane would have been the height of irresponsibility on the part of the Airline, and it surely wouldn't have helped her at all.

Prisonplanet for real

Submitted by runforron on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 11:18.

Anyone want to start a dirigible business?

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More than 8 million on that list

Submitted by runforron on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 10:14.

This reporter was on the no fly list after reporting about the no fly list: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/17/watchlist.chertoff/index.html

These people who share a name with someone on the list: http://www.truveo.com/No-Fly-List-Grounds-Wrong-Men/id/25316...

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Thanks for the links

Submitted by sharpsteve on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 11:14.

Thanks for the links
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Rahm should be put on that list... The guy's dad is a terrorist

Submitted by TheTruthWillSet... on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 09:49.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

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Rahm himself

Submitted by legalizeliberty on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 09:52.

was in IDF in 1991

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Let me tell you about someone on that list

Submitted by paul4won on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 08:35.

A young lady with a VERY unusual name - I have never met anyone else with it. She is an attorney, and in law school she worked on animals rights issues. (Unwad your panties. She wants your food treated humanely.) She is a complete sweetie, gentle heart, no desire to own a gun so she won't care... Well, except that she IS an attorney, maybe THIS will wake her up. It worked for me. I never WANTED a gun, then I realized they were telling me I CAN"T have a gun. (I still don't "want" a gun but I sure as hell am no longer without one.)

Anyway, she showed up on the list. As an attorney, she actually got off it... but they told her it was "another" person with her EXACT same name. I mean, this is like having 2 people named "Seven of Nine Picard!"

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I'm on the list

Submitted by EricHoffer on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 19:37.

I'm unfortunately on the list as well, and I've got a very common "John Smith-ish" name. It's a complete pain. Every time I check in, it takes me about 20 minutes and 2 forms of ID. They have to actually call upstairs to check and all that.

Fun story, I once literally froze 2 computers at the SouthWest Airlines terminal trying to check in. The 3rd computer finally got me through, but there were MANY scowling people behind me who then afterward only had one computer to go through for about 20 minutes. While I was getting checked in, ZERO people were being helped.

Real fun, let me tell you.

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What list is she on now?

Submitted by sharpsteve on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 09:19.

Did she get put on the list of those who complain about being on a list? Now they don't stop her from flying but they still got an eye on her I bet. The Alleged hi-jackers on 9/11 were on a watch list too.
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not sure about her, but I found myself on a very odd list...

Submitted by paul4won on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 16:27.

We got Christmas cards from Bush and Cheney.

Yeah, we made the Christmas card list... lol!

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Christmas cards from Bush and Cheney

Submitted by sharpsteve on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 19:25.

Now that's terrorism!
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Bump this up

Submitted by sharpsteve on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 08:25.

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I funny thought just occurred to me -

Submitted by Bonhomme Richard on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 16:26.

I wonder if any military recruit on his way to boot camp denied boarding being on a no-fly list ?

Side note: I know there are active service people who can not own guns, because they were felons before or after enlisting/drafted. Also, news reports say that Soldiers are assaulting their spouses in record numbers as of late, which is often corporal injury, a felony > no guns for you. I understad there are police that fall in that catagory too.

Any DPer's on the No Fly

Submitted by sharpsteve on Sat, 01/31/2009 - 22:35.

Any DPer's on the No Fly List?
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Superbowl Bump

Submitted by sharpsteve on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 07:27.

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This is

Submitted by JUSTCOMEHOME on Sat, 01/31/2009 - 22:06.

an attempt to quell political dissent, pure and simple. Hitler had lists too.

Largest murder wasn't Hitler Might surprise you who it was

Submitted by lostone1413 on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 20:52.

read about Stalin, Lenin and Marx then read about Genrikh Yagoda He was responsible for giving the go ahead for the death of 10 million people. Thats right 10MILLION! You wonder why history seems to leave this out? It might surprise you to learn that the largest Holocaust of the 20th Century had nothing to do with the Germans. It was the Jews that controlled the Communist Party killing Christians. Anyone who does any research will see what I said is 100% correct. Now why do you think this is left out of the history books???

The List

Submitted by sharpsteve on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 15:52.

I noticed that the number of people on the no fly list is roughly the same number of people who voted for Ron Paul in the primaries. Hmmm.
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