for the evil ones who have trashed the world economies to get a BIT tired of ALL of the major news networks bringing Peter Schiff, and Ron Paul and Jim Rogers on OVER and OVER and OVER again to tell people the realities of the situation. Watch for further attacks on Ron and Jim as well as Peter, as ALLLLLL of their advice and predictions prove true.
The good news here is that the PEOPLE must be waking up and that is what is scaring the financial world! As the people of Europe get more and more cynical of the EU banking system, and the people of the US start waking up to who the crimiminals are...... the financial wizards are getting more and more desperate to hold it all together. Viva la Revolucion!
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"Not armies, not nations, have advanced the race; but here and there, in the course of ages, an individual has stood up and cast his shadow over the world." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6pAcBXt2j8
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Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."
One jealous investor goes off on his blog and Peter has to come on national TV to defend himself and his company? That's just BS in my opinion.
This is an obvious witch hunt. Fox is taking an isolated incident on the internet and latching on to it as a way to blow Peter up. For ratings of course.
Obviously Schiff wanted an opportunity to come on TV and speak on it. I didn't see any evidence of Fox trying to destroy Schiff. It is notable information for investors that Schiff isn't a very good trader, which he isn't. He's a good economist but not a good trader. As Schiff said, he's a stockbroker. A stockbroker is a salesman.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Host was clearly grilling Schiff on his record. What other investor has been grilled on any network about his performance? More than that, what BROKER has had to defend himself on national TV because some nay-sayer posted a rant on the internet?
Submitted by SIERRAHPBT on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 12:32.
do you have an account with Schiff? so how do you know what he can and can't do? He made a reccomendation to me and my brother.. I didn't do it, my brother did. My brother put in 1500.00 and its worth 40k today!
I love how some of you guys are experts on everything.. even when you have no clue!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
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“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
I think the great majority of those invested with Peter, are with him because they understand the underlying principles...Any attempts to further discredit Peter will also fall at his feet (along with the dollar).
Submitted by Nolan Green on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 00:15.
I love how FOX news is so critical of the government right now. Jeeze, even they pick up Glenn Beck at the right time don't you think? Please C4L followers, don't take this FOX bullshit into what ron paul, schiff, and the like has been saying for years. Just because they are so government critical now doesn't make any better for the last 8 years they supported Bush. FOX all of a sudden take schiff and defend him like he's their buddy. I mean c'mon, is schiff's problem even worthy of a 10 minute cover on FOX? If Bush was still in office, I don't think SO!
Here is from the first day they went on the air, interviewing Greenspan and pushing the idea on him that we don't need the Federal Reserve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caIgP3Mnb6g
David Asman, the host, is the man. He's for the abolition of the Fed.
I'm afraid it's simply myth that Fox was the enemy of Ron Paul. He was left out of one debate because he didn't meet the 5% criteria. From that, most Paul supporters blew things WAY out of proportion and were oversensitive.
I think it's time to look back and reevaulate.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Check google trends ( http://trends.google.com ) and compare Ron Paul's trend to the other Republican candidates during the time when he was not welcomed to the debate. The interest in Ron Paul, as tracked by Google, surpassed all the other candidates combined. The 5% was an excuse.
About Fox being an enemy of Ron Paul - I saw this with my own eyes: during most of the debates Ron Paul had many ovations. During a replay of one of the debates, which was either immediately following or and hour or two later, a loaded question was asked of Ron Paul (where his answer received another ovation) which initially sounded bad towards him... Fox cut to commercial, skipped his answer as well as the ovation he received. They cut it out, simply because it benefited Dr. Paul. How can you be fair and balanced when that sort of thing is done? By the way, that night was the last time I watched Fox News after having been a daily loyal viewer for 8 years or so.
Fox Business... I'm still giving them a chance, though.
how popular a candidate is. All it tells you is who is getting the most searches. There is no correlation between the results of Google trends and popularity. This was verified many times by scientific polls. If you went to Google trends, then Dr. Paul was in the lead and would have won the first primary. It's not that hard to figure out what Google trends results would not indicate the popularity of Dr. Paul. Supporters were obsessed, including me, so were constantly looking on the net for news stories coming out. None of the other candidates had such a fervent following. That's all Google trends indicated - what candidate had the most active, fervent, and interested fans. Paul did not meet the 5% polling criteria for that debate. Fox let him in other debates when he was meeting the polling criteria. They didn't have to do that. They could have changed the criteria to keep him out, if they were really so scared of him. And it wasn't Dr.Paul they left out of that debate, but many other candidates include Keyes. Seriously, what the hell does Fox have to lose by having Dr. Paul on that would outweigh the desire for ratings?
Glitches happen with all candidates. If you're focusing most of your attention on one candidate, then those are the glitches you're going to see the most.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
That 5 % polling criteria is BS. It was'nt just no ordinary debate it was right before the New Hampshire primary. Its not just fox, all the major network debates gave Dr. Paul the least amount of time.
I saw debates where they gave Tom Thompson less time than Dr. Paul. Also Paul was allowed in several debates where lesser polling candidates weren't allowed in at all, such as Keyes. Dr. Paul was not singled out with different criteria than other candidates.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Yeah wait till election season, will see how real pro free market anti fed fox will be. Being left out of one debate before New Hampshire is one of many things fox has done.
Submitted by Nolan Green on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 01:11.
I'm glad you got your facts straight, no argument there. But to me FOXnews as a whole is a joke and I'm sure you can't deny that. Sure they got a few critical coverages here and there, but what network doesn't? how often were they like this when Bush was around? And I'm not just criticizing about FOXnews alone but cable news as a whole. And now you can see that CNN is more a democrat than it had ever been. I stop watching cable news altogether a long time ago. I get my news from blogs and independence news sources on the web. It just more diversify. Cable news are like daytime soap operas.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
i like peter schiff
he seems to know better than anyone else. look at the longturn instead of the imediate. the future instead of the present.
"The state is the great myth where everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else." - Frederic Bastiat
Tobey (or whatever his name is) Smith is a c*******r.
Exhibit A: http://www.europac.net/Schiff-Fox-4-26-08_lg.asp
Mr. Smith recommends buying the stock of Zoltek, which was trading at $27.30 at the time. It is now trading at $7.73. Around a 70% drop! What nerve.
I've been wondering how long it would take......
for the evil ones who have trashed the world economies to get a BIT tired of ALL of the major news networks bringing Peter Schiff, and Ron Paul and Jim Rogers on OVER and OVER and OVER again to tell people the realities of the situation. Watch for further attacks on Ron and Jim as well as Peter, as ALLLLLL of their advice and predictions prove true.
The good news here is that the PEOPLE must be waking up and that is what is scaring the financial world! As the people of Europe get more and more cynical of the EU banking system, and the people of the US start waking up to who the crimiminals are...... the financial wizards are getting more and more desperate to hold it all together. Viva la Revolucion!
_________________________________________
"Not armies, not nations, have advanced the race; but here and there, in the course of ages, an individual has stood up and cast his shadow over the world." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6pAcBXt2j8
Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."
Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs
This is ridiculous that a
This is ridiculous that a spat has become news. Mish jealous of Peter? not jealous of someone down over 40%, but jealous of the air time.
This is ridiculous
One jealous investor goes off on his blog and Peter has to come on national TV to defend himself and his company? That's just BS in my opinion.
This is an obvious witch hunt. Fox is taking an isolated incident on the internet and latching on to it as a way to blow Peter up. For ratings of course.
http://federalfallacy.com
http://federalfallacy.com
Schiff didn't have to take part.
Obviously Schiff wanted an opportunity to come on TV and speak on it. I didn't see any evidence of Fox trying to destroy Schiff. It is notable information for investors that Schiff isn't a very good trader, which he isn't. He's a good economist but not a good trader. As Schiff said, he's a stockbroker. A stockbroker is a salesman.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Come on
Host was clearly grilling Schiff on his record. What other investor has been grilled on any network about his performance? More than that, what BROKER has had to defend himself on national TV because some nay-sayer posted a rant on the internet?
http://federalfallacy.com
http://federalfallacy.com
do you have an account with
do you have an account with Schiff? so how do you know what he can and can't do? He made a reccomendation to me and my brother.. I didn't do it, my brother did. My brother put in 1500.00 and its worth 40k today!
I love how some of you guys are experts on everything.. even when you have no clue!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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good points
Fox loves character assassination....
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Love Peter
I think the great majority of those invested with Peter, are with him because they understand the underlying principles...Any attempts to further discredit Peter will also fall at his feet (along with the dollar).
Where was FOX news like this when Bush was around?
I love how FOX news is so critical of the government right now. Jeeze, even they pick up Glenn Beck at the right time don't you think? Please C4L followers, don't take this FOX bullshit into what ron paul, schiff, and the like has been saying for years. Just because they are so government critical now doesn't make any better for the last 8 years they supported Bush. FOX all of a sudden take schiff and defend him like he's their buddy. I mean c'mon, is schiff's problem even worthy of a 10 minute cover on FOX? If Bush was still in office, I don't think SO!
The question is where were YOU?
Fox Business has been pro-free market, and anti-Fed, and having great interviews with Dr. Paul ever since they went on the air.
Here is a great interview with Dr. Paul back in October of 2007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLdMHUcpW-g
Here is from the first day they went on the air, interviewing Greenspan and pushing the idea on him that we don't need the Federal Reserve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caIgP3Mnb6g
David Asman, the host, is the man. He's for the abolition of the Fed.
I'm afraid it's simply myth that Fox was the enemy of Ron Paul. He was left out of one debate because he didn't meet the 5% criteria. From that, most Paul supporters blew things WAY out of proportion and were oversensitive.
I think it's time to look back and reevaulate.
-------
The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Check google trends (
Check google trends ( http://trends.google.com ) and compare Ron Paul's trend to the other Republican candidates during the time when he was not welcomed to the debate. The interest in Ron Paul, as tracked by Google, surpassed all the other candidates combined. The 5% was an excuse.
About Fox being an enemy of Ron Paul - I saw this with my own eyes: during most of the debates Ron Paul had many ovations. During a replay of one of the debates, which was either immediately following or and hour or two later, a loaded question was asked of Ron Paul (where his answer received another ovation) which initially sounded bad towards him... Fox cut to commercial, skipped his answer as well as the ovation he received. They cut it out, simply because it benefited Dr. Paul. How can you be fair and balanced when that sort of thing is done? By the way, that night was the last time I watched Fox News after having been a daily loyal viewer for 8 years or so.
Fox Business... I'm still giving them a chance, though.
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Google trends does not tell you
how popular a candidate is. All it tells you is who is getting the most searches. There is no correlation between the results of Google trends and popularity. This was verified many times by scientific polls. If you went to Google trends, then Dr. Paul was in the lead and would have won the first primary. It's not that hard to figure out what Google trends results would not indicate the popularity of Dr. Paul. Supporters were obsessed, including me, so were constantly looking on the net for news stories coming out. None of the other candidates had such a fervent following. That's all Google trends indicated - what candidate had the most active, fervent, and interested fans. Paul did not meet the 5% polling criteria for that debate. Fox let him in other debates when he was meeting the polling criteria. They didn't have to do that. They could have changed the criteria to keep him out, if they were really so scared of him. And it wasn't Dr.Paul they left out of that debate, but many other candidates include Keyes. Seriously, what the hell does Fox have to lose by having Dr. Paul on that would outweigh the desire for ratings?
Glitches happen with all candidates. If you're focusing most of your attention on one candidate, then those are the glitches you're going to see the most.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
That 5 % polling criteria is
That 5 % polling criteria is BS. It was'nt just no ordinary debate it was right before the New Hampshire primary. Its not just fox, all the major network debates gave Dr. Paul the least amount of time.
Not true.
I saw debates where they gave Tom Thompson less time than Dr. Paul. Also Paul was allowed in several debates where lesser polling candidates weren't allowed in at all, such as Keyes. Dr. Paul was not singled out with different criteria than other candidates.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Yeah wait till election
Yeah wait till election season, will see how real pro free market anti fed fox will be. Being left out of one debate before New Hampshire is one of many things fox has done.
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I'm glad you got your facts straight, no argument there. But to me FOXnews as a whole is a joke and I'm sure you can't deny that. Sure they got a few critical coverages here and there, but what network doesn't? how often were they like this when Bush was around? And I'm not just criticizing about FOXnews alone but cable news as a whole. And now you can see that CNN is more a democrat than it had ever been. I stop watching cable news altogether a long time ago. I get my news from blogs and independence news sources on the web. It just more diversify. Cable news are like daytime soap operas.
You do very good work. Thank you.
I am always impressed with your accurate, well thought-out comments. You truly understand patriotism.
Sure beats being called a troll.
Thanks.
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
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He makes a good point about how the statements
don't include gold. With gold factored in, the returns would be much higher.
What I love here is the
What I love here is the small refference to Maddoff ... kinda like trying to scare people into thinking that Schiff is the new Madoff...
so retarded... Schiff's clients (we) still make money... if u can't see the demise of the american Dollar... watch Glenn Beck's Al Gore moment...