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What do you know now that you wish you knew when you were my age?

A couple of weeks ago I turned twenty-three. Well over the last couple of weeks I was thinking about all the things I know now that I wish I new when I was in high school or in collage, because of how ignorant I was I lost a lot of friends and made a lot of people dislike me (I now know that a lot of that was due to lack of discression and I have fixed that by reading "how to win friends and influence people" by dale carnagie). I also was thinking of all the financial trouble I got in because of ignorance (I am fixing that by doing the financial plan at crown financial on the web, well as much of it as matches austrian economics) , and all the cool stuff I missed out on because I just didnt know then (Fixing that in part by doing martial arts but still upset now that I missed all those high school sport programs so I could watch tv what a waste).

I used to read a sign at school that said a wise man learns from others mistakes, a normal man learns from his own mistakes and a fool never learns from any bodies mistake.

So to protect me and all the other young folks that are in the movement ye which are the elder teach us younger ones something would you. What is it that you know now that you wish you new when you was twenty-three or when ever, so when can learn from your mistakes, or triumphs if it is worth while

And this is very on topic with this website because what you say will help us young people more quickly step up to the plate as leaders in the liberty movement.

Thanks have a great day.

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experience is the best teacher...................

as long as it's some one elses..

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."


When you are 46, remember to replicate ths thread and share this advice with whomever you think may listen.

You are very sharp.

1. Alcohol can turn on you like a snake.
2. Lust is blind.
3. Hollywood does not do a good job of teaching about sex and marriage.
4. It is easier to break off a relationship with "Mr/Ms. Wrong,", if you have never had sex with him/her. The selection of a mate can determine whether your life is heaven or hell. No need to rush.
5. The younger you are, the easier it is to retain what you learn. Cram it in!
6. There are many things worse than death.
7. Life is really short. Do not waste a moment!

"Pardon me all to hell!." ~John Wayne

"It’s not like I’m just trying to win and get elected. I’m trying to change the course of history." ~Ron Paul

Trust yourself.

You are the last defense for all that you hold dear. Your experiences and education as you see them, are the truth. Don't fall for false ideas promoting coolness, vanity, self-righteousness. Be humble, but trust yourself and your experiences. You are not the "be all", "end all" human in existence, you are merely a fellow traveller in the journey of life. Your ideas are just as important as the ideas of others. Be kind, courteous, and respectful of others. Do not let others take advantage of you, if you suspect that that is their intention. Honor your parents and your families, because when the shit hits the fan, they will probably be the only people you can count on. Nobody ever learned anything by talking, you have to listen. Listen and judge the words against your own personal experiences. The Truth will float to the top of your consciousness.

And believe this -

"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." - Ron Paul.

Don't believe anything anybody says here

that is all.


this "troy" character. Seems shifty.



Excellent thread

Things I'd like to have known at 23:

1) Credit cards are great tools, but can be easily abused. It's safer handling snakes if you don't know what you are doing.

2) Economics and politics are the most important subjects to learn.

3) Civilization, society, whatever you want to call it, is just an eggshell thin coating over a wild animal. Crack that shell and the beast comes out. Knowing this implies that maintaining civility is an essential trait to have; lose civility and everyone suffers.

4) Even your enemies are people. It's far too easy to just dismiss those you disagree with as "other". It's far more rewarding to understand how they have reached their conclusions, even if you disagree with them.

5) Buy lots and lots of UUNET, Netscape and Sun Microsystems stock (okay.. that would have been valid when I was 23; not so much now.)

- Mixer

Good question

I suggest the following:

1. learn a foreign language

2. learn to play a musical instrument

3. Pick a career/learn a skill that can be used off the books in a black market

4. learn to meditate and do it daily

5. learn to eat mindfully and exercise moderately so you stay lean

6. Never let a woman tell you what to do - unless she is signing your paycheck. This is particularly true with women you love.


Never tell a woman what to do and always hear her out. She may be your best ally. And visa versa. Do we even know the sex of this poster? You woman hater? You have issues.
If you are male. Never take advice about women from other men.


So because a guy doesn't want to be pushed around by a woman that makes him a woman hater? Hahahaha! Not at all. That just makes him a man with a pair.

I didn't say

do what she says or let her push you around. I said hear her out. And notice the ? mark. Just read both comments again. You took it wrong. or maybe I took the other comment wrong. The "Never" just struck me as never listen to a woman.~peace


can be wonderful. Any relationship can have ups and downs married or not. When you truly love someone the commitment of marraige can possibly keep you from throwing away the most important thing in your life without putting in enough effort. 25 yrs and I can't see myself ever with anyone else. Unless he cheated or beat me. But that would be true if we weren't married. It doesn't have to be legal if you want to be technical. But a true commitment between two people. But as I said before you do what you think you should do. Not what others tell you. They are against marriage. Didn't work for them. It worked for me. You are you.
This in regard to the post below

Never trust anyone, especially yourself.

If someone says they are doing something for your own good, or just trying to help, or to teach you something, you can be sure you and you alone will suffer horribly.

Interestingly enough

Harry Browne also says "Never get married," but for very different reasons. He just thought it wasn't necessary to a long-term and loving relationship to tie it down with a government-written indefinite contract.

What you've got here is pretty stark. I don't think I'd like to be living your life.



You can have every thing taken away.

Your home, family, memory, and very often, sanity. There is one thing you can do, and that is keep your sense of curiosity. All you need is the will to see what comes next.
Something else I have learned. Never say "it can't get any worse than this!". As soon as you say it, things will get worse. They can always get worse.
You think I am "pretty stark". I am a realist, with many years of hard-earned experience. I believe in pursuing knowledge with a passion that knows no boundaries. I do hope for a better world, but prepare for the worst. When people say they don't believe in miracles, I look at them, and see a miracle. I look at the grass and trees, and feel the wind. All these things are miracles. All existence is a miracle.

Never assume

that anyone is smarter than you just because they think they are ,are better,spoken,or written, or even more succesful than you. You will only be lead by them (usually in the wrong direction) and will not build confidence in yourself. Never feel inferior or you will be. Of course there will be things that others that are better at some things than you are. There will be things that you are better at than they. Those who feel the need to critisize are usually lacking themselves. You can listen to others but come to your own conclusions. Seemingly smart people are often the wrongest of all. They have a tendency to be set to a way of thinking and a closed mind. Try to keep your mind open. I am speaking from my own experience when I say I would have done soo much more with my life if I hadn't listened to others tell me my ideas were not what I should do. I am me they are them. I was meant to do what I was meant to do. If I had not listened to them i would have my own little business right now. But i waited for this reason and that that I was told to and now I because of my own common sense did not want to take the financial risk with the economy in such a mess. I even had the eguity line to do it but the bank withdrew it because thay said property values were dropping. I was going to start a pet sitting business on my own land, Kind of a doggy dude ranch. But everyone seemed to think you have to work 9-5 for someone else. 7 yrs planning. Now I will probably be too old if and when I can get started. I used to go to other peoples homes and take care of thier animals and had a great reputation. Many wanted me to keep thier pets at my home but without the fencing and proper set up I only did that when the situation was low risk of escape or they fully understood the risks. I live in the country so the home visit got to be costly in gas and hard to take on too many clients at once. I did that for 18 yrs. 911 put a cramp in that for a couple years and many of my clients died of old age so I don't do much of that anymore. Well there is a life story ;) And I wish I had known omre about how the government worked and would have gotten involved and maybe had a head start in what we are all trying to do now. I apologize to future generations for my lack of involvment and the mess you are being left with. All I can do now is try to change what I can and try to get my grown kids to see what is coming and get involved. But it is slow going. I wish you luck and keep learning and questioning.~peace

Read, Listen, Pay Attention, Discuss

There is no substitute for living and growing in your own way. The advice of others might be occasionally useful (Do not sit on a hot stove), but for the most part, even brilliant suggestions go unheeded.

I learned most of the things I know by reading (books, magazines, newspapers), television and radio (NPR is often very good, or the Pacifica network if you can get it), by listening to what others say, and then having good, deep discussions about things. College is helpful also - not just for the courses, but the wonderful late-night discussions that happen on just about every floor of every dorm. That is when I learned a lot; about living, about other people, about when to talk and when to listen.

If you can, hang out with people you admire, or whom you feel have a good background of knowledge and life experience. Just listen to them, see how they live, what they do. Engage them in conversation and ask questions. Never be afraid to ask, "Please explain that; I don't quite follow you." Or, "What does that word mean?"

One thing I learned late, and which I wish I had learned earlier: Do not care what others think of you. If you are happy with yourself, that is all that matters. That doesn't mean you are perfect, but that you are just fine for now, at 23. You're on a path, you're learning and you're growing. You'll be fine.


If I could go back to 23, I would have made Jesus the center and purpose of my life instead of just something on the side. My life is so much better, and I am so much happier--and I was quite a happy guy--now that my foundation is on Jesus and not on anything from the world.

Do yourself a favor

and proof-read everything you write. I am not trying to be ugly or unkind. I am a teacher - and there is nothing that causes loss of credibility (as regarding both self respect and education) than publishing one's thoughts with no regard to spelling and grammar.

Take some pride in what you write - care enough about your reader to write clearly and correctly.

Spell-check is not enough...proof-read.

I am exactly twice your age...just some friendly advice from an ole-timer.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Not to be a jerk, but where

Not to be a jerk, but where did you learn the proper use of a hyphen and dash?

Phule's Collorary to Godwin's Law

"On sites where Nazis and Hitler are discussed as a matter of course, the probability of grammatical nitpicks occurring approaches one."

Heck, even *I* make spelling and grammar mistakes sometimes. Not often, but hell hath frozen over from time to time even here on dp.

This poor kid's grammar has been discussed to death already in prior comments. Yes, it's a good suggestion, but it does not bear repetition. Can this be the final word on the subject so we can get back to good life advice? It's a fascinating thread. Let's not interrupt further.



My point exactly.

My point exactly.


Do the things that you fear, and learn the things that you think are too hard for you.

"The credit expansion boom is built on the sands of banknotes and deposits. It must collapse.", www.mises.org

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com


Do not pass GO until you have found a copy of "How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World" by the late, great libertarian, Harry Browne -- the Ron Paul of his Day -- and read it at least twice. Read once to familiarize yourself. Read again to take notes and action.

Paper copies are horrendously expensive, but you can find an (authorized) electronic copy for relatively cheap. (Of course, I would never recommend searching for this book on bittorrent ;)) But even if you invest in the paper copy, the results will be INCREDIBLY CHEAP at the price.

Learning economics of freedom is great -- but what Browne teaches is personal freedom -- how to live in a free economy, and how to be free even if the economy or political environment is not. I don't agree with all of it, especially his views on morality, but every last drop of this book is thought provoking.

This is not a standard "self help" book. It is not full of positive thinking platitudes. This stuff is blood and bone.

If I could go back in time and hand myself just one book at age 17, it would have been this book. By age 23, I'd already broken so much of what this book would have had advised, had it been available to me, that I'm still trying to straighten my life out years and years later.

His advice ranges from "freedom from a treadmill job" to "freedom from government and taxes" but it goes well beyond that into freedom in all areas of personal life, and especially freedom in your own mind. I won't deny that the parts where he talks about personal relationships is extremely controversial, but I think that even here, there are nuggets of private property wisdom in here that many libertarians who wouldn't consider themselves "libertines" could appreciate.

It's a powerful work. It could be used to justify evil as well as good. Be careful with it.

This book gets a lot of negative press within our movement sometimes. I think the folks over at LRC like to pretend this book was never written. Doesn't matter. Read it anyway, even if it's just to have something to disagree with. Even if you disagree with every last point, it's wonderful to read such logical prose.

It is wonderful that you are jump starting your education. By learning things not taught in school, you are effectively learning to be a self-learner. There is no possible higher human education.



Mary Croft

Mary Croft is going further than Harry, on an international level.


Not heard of her. I'll check her out!



Here you go!


Thousands have expressed appreciation for this book as it has changed their lives, since they now know:
1. We were never meant to compete in commerce; we were meant to serve our fellow man,
2. We were never meant to "earn our living"; we were meant to do what we love to do and thereby realize our spiritual potential,
3. We were never meant to charge our brother; that is only our ego's fearful reaction to how the banks are treating us. Every problem on this planet is a result of the banks having inflicted Commerce upon us. If we want to survive and thrive, we must quit doing to one another what the banks are doing to us all.


Thanks again

but from scanning the book, it seems that Ms. Croft spends a lot of time in court and occasionally jail. She may have won thus far, but she's compelled into these situations.

I don't want to start a debate thread here, that's not the point of what this young seeker is looking for. I do want to point out, to avoid confusion in someone who might not know, that Harry Browne's book disagrees with those three points you listed. Very sharply. Further, it is his point that keeping out of jail and court altogether is a very good tactic in being free.

I'll still read it, though. And recommend that Mr. Wraith do the same.



I have Harry's book from 1970s

Listen to the YouTube and you will hear the simularities, and yes, she is in court allot because she's fighting for global sovreignity (Harry was national). Someone has to, eh? A wise man learns from others mistakes, and I see this as that opportunity

My own feeling is Mary Croft takes on where Harry left off...

Best wishes to ALL.

Follow your heart

Follow your heart, use your head, and build the guts to follow your heart.