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If you're getting behind NH, MO, OK, MT, MI, HI, SC, GA, CA, UT, CO, and WA in standing up to the Fed, AZ is also now on board.

Also see: NH, MO, OK, MT, MI, HI, WA, SC, GA, UT, CA, TX,
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States Planning / Motioning Towards Reasserting Sovereignty:
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AL, AK, AR, CO, ID, IN, KS, ME, NV, and PA (as of 02/17/2009)

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REFERENCE TITLE: Sovereignty; Tenth Amendment. | HCR 2024

Introduced by

Representatives Burges, Ash, Biggs, Boone, Gowan, Mason, Montenegro, Pancrazi, Seel, Williams: Barto, Campbell CL, Court, Crandall, Crump, Driggs, Fleming, Goodale, Hendrix, Kavanagh, Lesko, McComish, McGuire, Miranda B, Murphy, Nichols, Pratt, Quelland, Stevens, Tobin, Weiers JP, Senator Harper

See it for yourself:
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg...

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If you believe in "State Sovereignty", make sure that you bug the hell out of your representatives to pass legislation like this. Also in your letters make sure that you call attention to the efforts of these states. Make them feel that their is a strong movement towards enforcing sovereignty outside of your individual state. That will give your representatives the feeling that their not totally leaving the herd. We need to make a firm push to get these bills actually passed- I'm not talking passive action...I'm saying assert your own personal authority as a citizen of your state. The power of your state derives from you, just as the Federal government's power derives from the states. It is long since past time that we reassert this authority. State Sovereignty will give us back our greatest line of defense against oppressive Federal government! From there we really can reverse all the harm that has been done to this Republic!!!!!!
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Breaking news user "celeste" has posted that eight states which I have added to the above list are now pushing for reassertion of sovereignty!!!!!!
Here is a link to Celeste's post http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81826

Keep pushing your representatives!!!

Hamilton, though an ardent proponent of Federalism, admitted "an entire consolidation of the States into one national sovereignty would imply an entire subordination of the parts; and whatever powers might remain in them would be altogether dependent on the general will. But as the plan of the convention [the Constitutional Convention of 1787] aims only at a partial union or consolidation, the State governments would clearly retain all right of sovereignty which they before had and which were not, by that act exclusively delegated to the United States."




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Didn't New Hampshire have a set back...?

Earlier this week I believe HCR 6, got voted down in session?

This is so encouraging--

Thanks.

Call your local newspaper instead. Digg is not a mainstream

source of news for the vast majority of people.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

Sovereignty Resource Map

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/83137

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Forward the links to your local news stations

and ask them why they are not covering this. Let's get some traction with the public at large.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

My dad said he saw something about this on the news

I'm sure it wasn't spun real nicely.

Please keep this thread updated so we can track this.

I'm looking to track all the states participating so any input is helpful. My track so far:
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/group/patriotsforamericaf...

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I updated the list of states :-)

I updated the list of states. Keep it up guys!!!

I sure

Wished I was in a position to move back to OK! Cant believe it, but Iomiss the people there.

Idaho HJM RS18517

Here's the last page:
WHEREAS, many federal mandates are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to
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the Constitution of the United States; and
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WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States,
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112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regula-
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Tory processes of the states; and
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WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now being
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considered by the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution
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of the United States.
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the members of the First Regular Session of
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the Sixtieth Idaho Legislature, the House of Representatives and the Senate concurring therein,
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that the state of Idaho hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitu
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lion of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal
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government by the Constitution of the United States; and that this Memorial serves as a Notice
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and Demand to the federal government to maintain the balance of powers where the Constitu
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lion of the United States established it and to cease and desist, effective immediately, any and
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all mandates that are beyond the scope of its constitutionally delegated powers.
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BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Chief Clerk of the House of Representatives be,
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and she is hereby authorized and directed to forward a copy of this Memorial to the President
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of the United States, the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives
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tatives of Congress, and the congressional delegation representing the State of Idaho in the
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Congress of the United States.
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Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Any paulers get through to a NC Rep yet? My emails have fallen

on deaf ears. Of course this state did vote for Obama this year. We seem to be heading to a govt dependant state vs the likes of SC who has carried our water for years on the anti federalism rebellion. That is why I love SC.

IT IS NOT A WASTED VOTE!

The NC Constitution would have to be changed.

Talk about a can of worms. Would the politicians want to open it? (I'm just "waking up" to politics and while I can guess the answer to that, I'm truly not sure how big a deal it is. I can imagine it would draw media attention though.)

This page:

http://m.digg.com/politics/The_State_Sovereignty_Movement_Pr...

Contains this comment that I ran across:
Quote:
Are you prepared to have your heart broken? Let me show you how "in the bag" NC is. NC Constitution Article 1 Section 5: "Every citizen of this State owes paramount allegiance to the Constitution and _government_ of the United States, and no law or ordinance of the State in contravention or subversion thereof can have any binding force." While giving one's allegiance to the Constitution of the US is of great importance, the government of the United States is a completely different story. I gather the original framers never dreamed we'd allow the federal government to become the monstrously corrupt pack of jackals that it has. Sounds like it's time to remove two words from the NC constitution and THEN proceed with the sovereignty movement. I'm guessing that little tidbit was put in the NC Constitution after the Civil War but don't know that as fact.
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I don't mention the author's user name here because it hints at foul language. You can easily find the comment by following the link.

ncReader

North Carolina

North Carolina Constitution

Adopted by Constitutional Convention 1969

Ratified by vote of the People November 3, 1970

Became effective July 1, 1971

"Every citizen of this state owes paramount allegiance to the constitution and government of the united states, and no law or ordinance of the state in contravention or subversion thereof can have any binding force."

We have to do something about this.....It gets worse.....

"This state shall ever remain a member of the american union; the people thereof are part of the american nation; there is no right on the part of this state to secede; and all attempts, from whatever source or upon whatever pretext, to dissolve this union or to sever this nation, shall be resisted with the whole power of the state."
http://vlex.com/vid/secession-prohibited-310110

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Clarification needed

freedomrik,

Thank you for the reference to the 1970 legislation.

I have a question about the two posts prior though. The post referring to NC house joint resolution 1089 -- can you provide a link to the information you found? I could not find the legislation on the ncleg.net website. The bill looks the same as recent Oklahoma bill 1089, but with references to NC instead of Oklahoma. I do not see a bill 1089 in the NC records since the late 90s, related to something else. Also, you provided a link to your website, but the site does not appear to be active.

Given that you've made this more recent post that implies NC is "locked in" to the federal govt, it does not make sense to me that your prior posts were intentionally deceptive at all. Please do not be offended by my questions. I just want to be sure of what legislation has actually passed, so I'd appreciate any additional info.

Interestingly while doing searches to find the bill you mentioned, I did see a NC bill from 1995 -- HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 571 -- that contains similar wording to the current Oklahoma 1089 and asserts State rights. I have not spent much time researching this sort of thing, so perhaps you or someone else more knowledgable than me can see if resolution 571 is relevant in this situation.

ncReader

Moving to freedom

I love it here in North Carolina. My family has been here in north Western NC since before the Revolutionary war, but if my State reps wont do what it takes to protect us from these robber barons I am moving to a more liberty friendly location. I plan on putting up one heck of a fight first though. Thats only a last resort.

My NC grassroots Forum www.sonsoflibertync.x.am

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NC 10th..I ran across this

STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA

2nd Session of the 51st Legislature (2008)

HOUSE JOINT
RESOLUTION 1089 By: Key

AS INTRODUCED

A Joint Resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; and directing distribution.

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."; and
WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and
WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and
WHEREAS, today, in 2008, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and
WHEREAS, many federal mandates are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and
WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and
WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SENATE OF THE [2ND SESSION] OF THE [51ST] NORTH CAROLINA LEGISLATURE:
THAT the State of North Carolina hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.
THAT this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.
THAT a copy of this resolution be distributed to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate of each state's legislature of the United States of America, and each member of the North Carolina Congressional Delegation.

51-2-9466 SD 12/31/07

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North Carolina

NC has been one of the major test states for RealID - I don't see NC going along with freedom and liberty - yet.

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not encouraging...at least in NC

This is a reply from my rep in NC. He was my dentist for 30 years so. I sent him a copy of the NH bill. We had a couple of "semi" heated exchanges. At first, he dismissed it as a waste of time because the Dems control NC right now. He finally sent me the response below.

"Thank you, Mike. I have just spent about 30 minutes with Representative Tim Moore, who is also an attorney, regarding this legislation. Such legislation would be symbolic and would not pass the Democrat controlled House. Although we agree with you, at this particular time it would be useless on our part in getting any legislation addressing this.

I appreciate your interest and hopefully the Republicans can take over in a couple of years and we can get some things done to save this state and nation.

Please continue to share your comments and concerns with us for they are greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Representative William A. Current, Sr.
District 109, Gaston County
North Carolina General Assembly
418A Legislative Office Building
Raleigh, North Carolina 27603
billcu@ncleg.net
(919) 733-5809

NC is getting a bunch of federal money....

There are a bunch of military bases all over NC. Camp Lejeune, Cherry Point, on and on. I don't think they want to piss off their masters.

Same old worn out response. We can't fight because we aren't in

power. We need some Ron Paul folks to get into the state house here badly. He is right this blasted state is ruled by commie liberals due to the universities surrounding the capital. Do we have any Ron Paul visionaries in the state house that we can contact? Anyone??

IT IS NOT A WASTED VOTE!

Add South Carolina too!

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/cgi-bin/query.exe?first=DOC&quer...

notice that abridgment number 1 " establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the states comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that state;"

"I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging the future but by the past." Patrick Henry

"I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging the future but by the past." Patrick Henry

How many states does that

How many states does that make now that have pending legislation?

I don't want to be a party pooper

...but we saw all of this back in the mid-90s, during the so-called Republican Revolution. First the neo-cons -- in the person of then-Gov. Mike Leavitt of Utah -- attempted to hijack the 10th amendment movement (started more or less by the same Rep. Key of Oklahoma) into a "Conference of States" aka a constitutional convention (anyone think a constitution drawn up by today's political vampires would be an improvement?). Patriots smelled that rat, so what happened next? The Oklahoma City bombing.

Poof. No more 10th Amendment movement. No more Republican Revolution.

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

http://tikilounge.blogspot.com

Yeah but we have a lot of

Yeah but we have a lot of rope and really tall trees now! :-p

Kansas on board

Senate Concurrent Resolution, SCR-1609, that asserts the sovereignty of the state of Kansas under the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution; filed by Sen. Mary Pilcher Cook (R-Shawnee)

Finally glad my state is on board.

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I wonder how McCain

feels about that?

hahaha

Good one meekandmild.

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I did

Just sent Florida House & Senate emails requesting they sponsor a similar bill. I used New Hampshire's as an example.

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State Sovereignty and Financial Independence

I'm very happy to see the states reminding the federal government of the 10th Amendment. However, there's an old saying, "He who owns the gold makes the rules." As long as the federal government/federal reserve retains control of the nation's currency, the states will continue to have to do the bidding of the federal government by and large. My proposal below which hopes to bring about AUTONOMOUS REGIONAL GOVERNMENT via a National Constitutional Convention gives each region the power to issue its own currency and thus become truly independent.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NationalConstitutionalConventi...

Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater

Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater